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preparing for my e-diet (which I will begin on monday) I am planning on doing a fasting glucose test. I am currently out of state and the ward of a strict allopathic unimaginitive HMO physiscian. NOt her fault, relaly a lovely woman, but entirely unlwilling to administer the test without a serious tantrum on my part. I am instead endevouring to adminster the test to myself:
Q: will this work.
1) CVS diabetic blood glucose monitor (cheap one 15USD) and their strips. (again 15USD)
2)36 hours pretest fast.
3) one blended concoction of one orange, one banana, and 5 pitted dates ( a la Mr. McFerran)
4) measurements at .5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 hours.
PS- again I throw down the gauntlet for anyone to join me on the ediet. I am not looking for a cure from my LGS but to remove one stressor on my system. C'mon...could be fun...all the cool kids are doing it...
WK (who prefers laughter to tears)
In Reply to: test for hypoglycemia: advice (dr. stoll, anyone?) posted by warnerkallus on August 16, 2002 at 23:01:31:
Now I wish I had my act together better! I am setting up a test with Immuno Labs first, to help guide me on the e-diet and THEN will do the e-diet. So I guess I can't join you this round.
I have never done an e-diet, but know some things about metabolic typing.
You can do the GTT on yourself, and it sounds like you're on the right track. The test strips tend to measure higher by about 10 points than the lab numbers would. But it is pattern that you are looking for, not so much to pin the numbers exactly.
A couple of points in case you don't have them covered. Are you carbo-loading for 3 days before the test? 300 grams of carbos daily (yum; GAG)
36 hours pretest fast? I don't think that's necessary. (Where did you get that?) As I understand it, just no eating after 6 pm on the 3rd day (the night before the test).
In the first hour, test every 15 minutes. If you're a fast oxidizer like me, you could have your glucose spike up in the first 15 minutes and spike back down by 30 minutes! Without testing every 15 minutes you would miss that.
Good luck. I guess you would start the e-diet the day after doing your glucose test?
In Reply to: test for hypoglycemia: advice (dr. stoll, anyone?) posted by warnerkallus on August 16, 2002 at 23:01:31:
Werner,
I had this test done twenty years ago. Jan is right, there was a special diet to follow for three days. Actually, I felt pretty good on the high carbohydrates.
During the course of the test my blood sugar went down to 43. I had never felt so crappy in my life. And afterwards, I decided that I would NEVER go through that again.
And you're doing this on your own? Have fun.
In Reply to: Re: test for hypoglycemia: advice (dr. stoll, anyone?) posted by Jan S. on August 16, 2002 at 23:44:47:
I have modelled the test on what I am pulling from the BB. In a previous post a woman describes her husabnds GTT as following a 36 hour fast. Is this incorrect proceedure? I had never heard of the 300 carb load for three days. Is this in the absence of anyhtign else? Any kind of carbohydrate ( does it matter if it is simple sugar, fructose, etc...)Would it be enough f I have done a fairwell to seets, de facto carb load tour for the last couple of days? I am eager to run this test, will my results be unusable if I run this test tonight or tommorow?
wk
In Reply to: thanks, and a couple more Qs. posted by warnerkallus on August 17, 2002 at 12:24:18:
I was not quite clear on all your questions.
I note that Walt says, "For this to be 99% accurate you need to load your system with carbohydrates (at least 400 (1600 calories) grams per day for the 3 days prior to the test)." So scratch the 300 and make that 400....
Whole foods carbs will be just as "good" as refined carbs would be, for purposes of carbo-loading. It is OK to eat fats and proteins over and above the 1600 cals. of carbs
I first learned to do the test under the direction of a practitioner. Looking in my file for the written directions, I read that it says to fast at least 6 hours before doing the test and that a popular time to do the test is on first arising in the morning. So I remembered incorrectly. Walt has specified no eating after midnight. (I just have never heard of the 36-hour pre-fast.)
Here are other directions:
Avoid all non-essential medications 3 days prior to the test; avoid all non-essential nutritional supplements 24 hours prior to the test; be well hydrated (6-8 glasses of water) the day before the test and take another glass in the morning
You could run the test under different conditions but how satisfying would it be? (knowing that it is less accurate!)
Carol is one of a number of people who vouch that they can feel pretty awful on the test, so be prepared for that.
Also I must correct my prior statement about numbers. To make the readings equivalent to the levels in a doctor's lab which tests serum (not whole blood), ADD 10%.
Hope this answers your questions but let me know if it doesn't.
In Reply to: thanks, and a couple more Qs. posted by warnerkallus on August 17, 2002 at 12:24:18:
Warner,
ALL physicians are taught that the most accurate test yet available for the earliest indication of diabetes coming is:
At least 400 grams of carbohydrate a day for 3 days and then a 12 hour fast before starting the 5 hour GTT. OK to eat anything else in addition to this carbohydrate load. Pig Out :o).
Any modifications from this protocol are due to the individual doctor practicing unscientific medicine.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: thanks, and a couple more Qs. posted by Jan S. on August 17, 2002 at 16:01:15:
Thanks, Jan.
You are right: 6 hours fast is just as good as 12 hours. Water should not be discontinued!
Namaste`
Walt
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