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HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES

Posted by Clare on December 21, 2002 at 11:12:34:

Hi All,

I decided to start a new ? thread because the other one was getting quite far down on the list, hope it is ok.....

ok, here is the current situation...... I am reading / studying / focussing on changing to the Specific Carbohydrate Diet as recommended in Elaine Gottschall's book.... Breaking the Vicisous Cycle. It it a complete lifestyle change and one that demands 100 percent committment. I am about 90% convinced that this is the way for me to go... at least to give it a one month try.

Before I can do this I need to make certain that there are stores in my area where I can purchase certain food stuffs specified in the diet.

Another thing that is worrying me has to do with my type 2 diabetes... and hypo attacks. Yesterday while out shopping I had a real bad hypo, lucky for me I had some candy in my pocket. This is NOT allowed on the new diet plan........ What the heck will I do if I have a hypo then? make a total idiot of myself by completely blacking out????? Needing medical attention.....

Any thoughts and suggestions from people who have tried and succeeded with this diet plan would be greatly appreciated. I do know that given time, adhering to this lifestyle change, and my diabetes should improve, but in the interim how should I manage things? I cannot go walking about with bottles of freshly squeezed orange juice in my purse just in case... so what is my alternative?

The specific food stuffs I am looking for a local source of... are ground almonds (at a reasonable price)..... dry curd cottage cheese.... none of my local markets carry them. Any suggestions (WA) Seattle area.

Thanks People. McHarris



Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 22, 2002 at 08:35:01:

In Reply to: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES posted by Clare on December 21, 2002 at 11:12:34:

Hi, Clare.

Are you taking insulin or a hypoglycemic agent? Hypo attacks are a LOT more dangerous than letting your sugar run high!

You should never start a diet like this without your doc's coverage (these diets effectiveness just proves that the allopathic approach is simplistic at best) since it can quickly obviate any need for your current treatment and you will have more hypos. Diabetes does not cause hypos all by itself. We docs have to help it happen.

Everytime you have a hypo your diabetes is made slightly worse forever.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES (Archive.)

Posted by Clare on December 22, 2002 at 10:46:32:

In Reply to: Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 22, 2002 at 08:35:01:

Hi Doc Walt.....

I take 2mg Advandia each morning..... supposed to take 2mg each night at bedtime too, but since my morning sugars are not running (norminally) over 105 I stopped taking the evening dose. A few months ago my morning wake up sugars (145) were higher than my evening bedtime sugars (115 ish).... that is when the Dr. put me on Advandia.

I hope 'hypo' is the correct term? low sugar...... dizzy, tearfull, periods when I wonder where I am and what I am doing there, is what happens to me, and it is most aweful when it happens when I am out in public, say at the market etc., The Doctor told us that my sugar getting low is not the real problem... it is the fact that it does it so rapidly that causes the bad feelings etc. My sugar actually only needs to go below 96 (ish) before I start to get clammy and confused. That I why I always carry candy in my pocket.

I am seriously wanting to get control of all of this and IF this diet will help, I am almost convinced to take it on and give it a try.

Perhaps I ought not to be saying this but..... at the practice we attend, the nurse practitioners are the ones I feel more confident in..... it was they who enthusiastically agreed to writing me a referral to Bastyr. I guess I will have to ask the staff at Bastyr to send me on to work with a nutritionist/dietitian at their institute. But I hope that by doing something as radical with my diet as is demanded with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, many of my seemingly unconnected (ugh!) ailments can be fought and fixed. IBS and Diabetes particulary... which I hope will bring my high triglycerides down and moderate my whole lipid profile. I might also lose some weight which has to be a BIG plus :-)

Blessings on you and your work Dr. Walt, and please have a very happy Christmas.


Clare & Hubbie.



Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES

Posted by Helping You on December 22, 2002 at 15:39:27:

In Reply to: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES posted by Clare on December 21, 2002 at 11:12:34:

The best thing to do is to AVOID getting hypo attacks to begin with. Eat a meal before you head out to the store. Make sure it contains protein, non-starchy carbohydrates, and some butter or oil. This will get your sugar nice and balanced. Try to eat a balanced meal every couple of hours.

As Walt said, and as I said in the other thread, let your doctor know that you are doing this because it IS so effective at treating the cause. You could overdose on diabetes medicines because your blood sugar is more balanced with the diet.

The SCD is great. But, if I were you, I would not eat much of the "non-food" items that she allows on the diet. All of those nut and bean flours are not good for the digestive system. Buy Nourishing Traditions anyway. That way, you can follow the directions in NT with the allowed foods from the SCD. I believe this combination to be better than the SCD alone. For some variation on your non-starchy vegetables, learn to make fermented versions using the recipies in NT. Let me know about your progress

Carry nuts, granny smith apple, or a thermous that can hold hot soup or cold yogurt for several hours. This way, you always something healthy on hand.

-HY



Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES

Posted by Clare on December 22, 2002 at 20:57:53:

In Reply to: Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES posted by Helping You on December 22, 2002 at 15:39:27:

Hy I appreciate you answering......

I really do want to do what I can THE BEST that I can to reduce weight, settle the belly/gut and not have low sugar or high sugar episodes.

Do I THROW OUT (I mean stop eating) all potato's, pastas, rices, breads, chana dals?.... Can I use/make Atkins bread?

So I have to eat lots and lots of good healthy vegetables.... lean protein.... go back to real eggs....

By the way, I cut down on excess fats years ago as they seemed to be upsetting my digestion....... you are suggesting I change back to using butter... NO margarine? I already use olive oil and peanut oil in cooking........

Guess I get confused about what are the good carbs and what are the bad carbs..... yes I know that I need to be looking for the simple sugars.... monosaccharides, so they will digest easier..... wish they would tell you on food lables what the carbs are exactly.

Is there a suggested number of carbs to be aiming for each day?

Is cows milk IN or OUT? what about goats milk and products?

Confusion reigns supreme in our household...... we want to begin a good healthy plan as of January 1st if we can.... but I want to ensure it is something that both hubbie and I can share and follw together, that way we help and support each other through the difficult times......

I have been unable to get a copy of Nourishing Traditions at Barnes and Nobel...... I will try other book shops after Christmas. We do not like ordering stuff on line.

Happy Christmas to you and yours............ Clare & Hubbie



Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 23, 2002 at 10:19:58:

In Reply to: Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES (Archive.) posted by Clare on December 22, 2002 at 10:46:32:

Thanks, Clare.

If this were me, I would certainly stop all hypoglycemic drugs when I started this diet. That way you will not run the risk of hypoglycemic episodes. You can always restart it.

I am not familiar with this exact diet but this certainly would be true of the PWFD we have described on this BB for years.

Walt

Let us know how you do.

Walt

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Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES

Posted by Helping You on December 23, 2002 at 18:58:46:

In Reply to: Re: HY - and others.... please can you advise re DIABETES posted by Clare on December 22, 2002 at 20:57:53:

As I've said, cow milk products are out for the most part. Buy organic if you must use them, but only use butter, yogurt, kefir or cream. Goat milk products are ideal.

Scrap the peanut oil.

Stop eating all pasta. There is nothing nutritional there. Have starchy vegetables and sprouted grain breads as only side-dishes. If you want your blood sugar to keep going up, eat more pasta and bread!

Lean protein? Never said anything about that. It's perfectly ok to eat the fat on your meats. They will NOT clog your arteries as conventional medicine would like us to believe

Definitely no margarine. If you are not digesting your fats well, it's probably because you either have a sluggish liver or gallbladder, you are low on digestive enzymes, or you are using the wrong fats and heating them too much. Raw fats don't bother many people. Nourishing Traditions covers ALL of this plus more. Let me know if you have more questions when you have finished the book.

-HY


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