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connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia

Posted by Naomi Laura Ross on July 25, 2001 at 19:32:04:

Does anyone have any experience with those three categories?Also,could a doctor please resp[ond to my initial questions?



Re: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia

Posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 00:47:45:

In Reply to: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia posted by Naomi Laura Ross on July 25, 2001 at 19:32:04:

I have systemic yeast and have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I believe they are related because when I kill off the yeast (using Diflucan or herbal anti-fungal) my massive die off symptoms are exactly the same as a fibro flare.

I don't know if I have parasites. I am carrying about 20 extra pounds. But I'm pretty sure that's directly related to the candida and hypoglycemia. I crave sweets and carbos. I generally don't eat them, but I've yet to find a low carb diet that didn't make me depressed.




Re: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia

Posted by Davetx on July 26, 2001 at 14:17:02:

In Reply to: Re: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 00:47:45:

Beth, I agree with you that they are all related. I had a big problem also with the low carb diet, I would feel weak and depressed. What I did was went on a six month diet of 100 grams of carbs for a day for 1 month then cut that to 75 grams of carb for 2 months and then 50 to 75 grams of carbs daily for 4 months.It was one of the hardest things I have done in my life, but My attitude did a 180 in those six months and till this day I do not crave carbs even though I eat around 100 to 150 grams a day instead of my old 250 to 400 grams. In those six months I lost 25 pounds and have not gained any back in 2 years. I did have low sugar and did feel depressed for the first 6 weeks and then it turned around. Good luck



Thanks Dave!! That's the best suggestion I've heard yet...

Posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 14:26:39:

In Reply to: Re: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia posted by Davetx on July 26, 2001 at 14:17:02:

I've been told over and over, "Just wait it out, you'll feel better" and I waited a month, until I was literally SUICIDAL, and I said screw this and started eating carbs again. I went from suicidal to loving life in 24 hours. I am able to eat 100 carbs a day, did that for a long time. Maybe I'll stick to that for a while, and then reduce.



My thoughts on reducing carbs

Posted by R. on July 26, 2001 at 15:56:42:

In Reply to: Thanks Dave!! That's the best suggestion I've heard yet... posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 14:26:39:

Our bodies can run either on carbs or fat. If you have more than a certain amount of carbs a day, your metabolism uses carbs for energy. When carb amount goes below 20-30 grams a day, metabolism switches from burning carbs to burning fat. These are facts. Now my thoughts are if you reduce your carbs to below what you are accustomed to but still eat more than amount that's necessary for switching to fat based metabolism you will feel weak. Either that or you have too little fat if your body has switched to burning fat. Does this make sense?



Re: My thoughts on reducing carbs

Posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 16:11:15:

In Reply to: My thoughts on reducing carbs posted by R. on July 26, 2001 at 15:56:42:

Yes, it does make sense. And that's the info I've been working on.

But...here's my story and see if you can see my side. Two and a half years ago I went on a low carb diet. I lost 15 pounds, felt GREAT for three months. During the fourth month, I began to feel depressed and had horrible headaches. I went to see an endcrinologist and he gave a glucometer. Whet I found by testing myself that my blood sugar never went above 80 on a low carb diet. THAT's why I felt like crap.

Something about me and my system does not like to burn fat alone for energy. And it didn't start until I went on a low carb diet. It's like a switch was thrown on my body, I've never been the same since. What I have been able to do is eat a diet with 120 carbs a day coming from grains, with no sugar. I felt good then. I've been doing that for the last few weeks, but I've still been cheating. Maybe if I cut back slowly, it might work, or I might just end up suicidal again. Personally, If I feel healthy and know I'm eating whole foods, I'm not going to get all worked up about low carbs.

Oh, and I have 20 pounds to lose, so I know it's not because there isn't enough fat to burn :)



Oh and...

Posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 16:16:30:

In Reply to: My thoughts on reducing carbs posted by R. on July 26, 2001 at 15:56:42:

I know that during this time that I was eating way less than 20-30 carbs a day. I had lots of days where I ate almost 0 carbs and those were the days I felt the worst. So I don't think the "too high to get into ketosis, but too low to feel normal" applies either.

Been through all this with an endo,a dn many other people. Something got wacked in my system.

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Re: My thoughts on reducing carbs

Posted by Davetx on July 26, 2001 at 20:47:37:

In Reply to: Re: My thoughts on reducing carbs posted by beth on July 26, 2001 at 16:11:15:

Beth, I just used 100 as what I did, if you can get by on 120 then I agree try that. I feel the main thing is just do not hit it to hard and try to stop at once. You put your system into shock. Just keep starving it and it will accept a lower and lower level. There is something about cutting sugar out that a body does not like. I always felt your body is just like us sometimes and it is telling you when you feel bad it just does not want to work to get energy from some other source like fat. You said you went no carbs one day, well I could never do that. Anytime below 40 I really went to suffering. When you look at it that is not much carbs. Good luck in your health.

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Re: My thoughts on reducing carbs

Posted by Terri-Lynn on July 26, 2001 at 22:30:05:

In Reply to: My thoughts on reducing carbs posted by R. on July 26, 2001 at 15:56:42:

The thing to watch out on eating empty carbs like white sugar, white bread or refined carbs of any kind like crackers, cookies, cold cereral ect; Now carbs are not fatening when eating fruit and carrots and potatoes [it is what we put on it] and veggies have some carbs in them; Whole grains are good for the body for most people, if eating the right one's and if not over done; I find people with having a wheat sensitivity a lot and i have seen many take weight off by just getting off of it and eating rice instead; Now i am on a food plan, because of a kinesiology testing that i got. It is off all dairy [except home made yogart that we make], off grains off all kinds, meats and fish and eggs and off soy; Another wards i am only on veggies and fruit for 3 weeks, this is what my body wanted to do at this time to clean out; I look at it as a fast of sorts and i will put these things make in after the three weeks are up, but gradually and in smaller amounts; I am doing a lot of really goood suppliments however and most of them are powders like Wholly Immune Support and Arthred-powder and Ambrotose; I'm just sharing this with you to let you know there are all kinds of ways to approach short cleansing periods and it is very usefull sometimes to the body; Also remember that the body goes into detoxing when one gets off certain things for a few days, mine certainly is at this time, but it really makes me feel better in the long run after the first 5 days usually;



Re: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 2001 at 09:28:41:

In Reply to: connection between yeast/parasite/weight in fibromyalgia posted by Naomi Laura Ross on July 25, 2001 at 19:32:04:

Naomi.

I delay responses for 48 hours.

Walt

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Potatoes

Posted by beth on July 27, 2001 at 12:21:43:

In Reply to: Re: My thoughts on reducing carbs posted by Terri-Lynn on July 26, 2001 at 22:30:05:

I beg to disagree with you on one point, potatoes. I really do think they are like eating a bowl of sugar. They certainly effect me that way, and I've eaten them during "weight loss" programs and not lost an ounce. I think in limited amounts and small size with the skin still on, they would be OK for someone with no insulin problems. But for people like me and diabetics, they are right out.



Re: Potatoes

Posted by Terri-Lynn on July 27, 2001 at 17:38:10:

In Reply to: Potatoes posted by beth on July 27, 2001 at 12:21:43:

Yes Beth, everyone is an individual and i can eat them and weight falls off, but i don't like them that much and stick to mostly squash like hubard. I was just sharing my food plan i'm on; I've never had a big big problem with weight, only a little and when i'm off grains it pours off, eating potatoes or not; i am not diebetic; So thanks for the imput to others; I use intuition for everything and everyone and technical knowledge;

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Re: Potatoes (Archive in diabetes.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 2001 at 09:23:32:

In Reply to: Potatoes posted by beth on July 27, 2001 at 12:21:43:

Hi, beth.

Terry-Lynn is correct in that this is very individual.

I am a severe diabetic who has been able to cut my daily insulin from 150 units to less than 20 just by eliminating wheat and dairy. I also have problems with a lot of potatoes unless I only eat the small red potatoes with the skins. That way the ratio of carbohydrate to micronutrients is a lot less.

Namaste`

Walt

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