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I've been using whold foods for more than five years and will definitely continue. While this practice has brought me all the health benefits I can wish for, I often feel alone in this. I mean, I seem to be the only person I know who is doing this and therefore sometimes feel out of place in my social context.
I wonder at this BB how many people are regularly and consistently using whole foods in their diet?
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
Plz elaborate on your diet. I would like to follow it too, but have no idea what is meant by whole foods.
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
It depends what you mean by "whole foods". What do you eat and what do you not eat?
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
To answer Maz and Mikhail:
To answer your questions perhaps would take a book, but I'll try to give you the gist of it. Whole foods are foods in its unprocessed, original form: e.g. all-purpose flour is not whole food, while wheat berries is. White rice is not, brown rice. Orange juice is not; an orange is. Seperated egg white is not, a whole egg is.
There are books about this topic. Even this website has some recommendations. Hope this helps.
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
Yes, it's hard to eat a whole foods diet and still keep up a normal social life. Even if you keep your food preferences low-key, people still notice and comment, sometimes snidely, or others will make a big fuss and worry that you are not getting enough to eat. People often say they admire my willpower. If they only knew how awful I feel if I fall off the diet, they would understand why I do it! Most people curious about what I can/can't eat, but they are not really interested in why, so I don't really try to educate them.
For potlucks and large gatherings where food is served buffet style, it's often easier for me to bring my own food in a lunch box cooler (sandwich or cooked meat, veggies and/or salad) or bring a dish to share that I know I can eat (like a main dish salad) and set aside a large serving for myself. These days you can usually find a platter of raw veggies or fruit at parties, so that helps immensely to fill you up. It's easy to get water to drink and pass on the beer, wine, or punch. If all else fails, or if I'm not sure what to expect, then I eat something before I go so I'm not overly hungry and once I'm there, nibble on whatever fits my diet. Asking about ingredients of the food that others serve is a good topic of conversation, and helps identify what you can try.
I rarely eat in restaurants, but when I do, I either quiz the server about the ingredients, which gets tiresome, or if that's too complicated based on the menu, ask for an entree' without the sauce & salad without dressing. Sometimes I have to leave something on my plate. In a fine restaurant, the chefs and cooks can easily accomodate you with an attractive plateful of food. Other times I just ask for a salad without dressing, then a dinner plate with a large serving of vegetables and a baked potato with real butter. At least it's filling.
A sit-down dinner at someone's house can be difficult. Depending on the situation/individual, I usually mention that I have some dietary restrictions and try to get an idea of what they are serving. Once I took my own cooked brown-rice pasta and ate that with the stir-fry that was served on regular pasta. If the cooking is part of the entertainment, or you offer to help in the kitchen, it's easier to monitor what goes into the food. Sometimes you can ask to have a portion set aside before a forbidden ingredient goes in/on, like chicken without barbeque sauce.
Going to stay at someone's house is another tough situation. I usually take a small cooler with my own food if I'm driving, or if I'm flying, I find an opportunity to go to a store once I get there. I tell the hostess not to worry about me, then I use my own food to fill in what I can't eat. I've even cooked my own plain chicken before. My traveling staples include raw brown rice or brown rice pasta, allowable bread and crackers, hummus, almond butter, organic cheese, cooked boneless chicken breasts, extra fruit, and lots of raw vegetables. Sometimes I make up a batch of corn-zucchini pancakes ahead of time. I can eat those for any meal with my own salsa and they travel well.
The benefits are definitely worth the trouble.
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
I have been on a whole foods diet for more than 5 years now. Try not to think of it as being isolated. That kind of implies that everyone else is doing something that YOU should be able to do. The difference is, you KNOW that their practices will land them health problems eventually. Instead, you should think of it as a priveldge to eat this way. Most people don't take care of themselves enough to care about what they put in their bodies. You could even think of it as you just being on a higher level in your body/mind than most people. It sounds kind of conceded in a way but it really isn't. Afterall, it takes will, determination, and planning to do it correctly. Most pople won't take the time to do that. Personally, I love eating this way and I would never change. I don't get the mid-afternoon blues or sleepiness like most people I know because my blood sugar is constantly balanced by my food choices. Your food choices will either heal you or kill you. You have chosen the wiser practice! Don't feel alienated. In fact, everyone should be so lucky to eat like you. If anything, they are the ones that are alienated! Keep up the great work!
-HY
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet posted by Nutmeg on August 14, 2002 at 12:55:47:
Yes, Nutmeg. I am glad that someone else also feel the same way that I do. (When you think about it, it's really odd that a healthy diet is now the exception rather than the norm. Something is really wrong with our world.)
Your approach to whole foods seems, in many ways, to be more 'perfect' than mine. When I travel by air, I eat what's given on the plane. And once or twice a week, I dine out, choosing the healthiest on the menu and never fuss about it. I figure if I make a good effort in eating the perfect diet the rest of the time, an occasional deviation won't hurt.
But at home, I do make sure I get the freshest foods possible. Instead of buying flours, I grind my own right before cooking--to reduce the oxidization of the oils etc. Even whole food pasta, I use very little, for the same reason.
Thanks for sharing you whole foods experiences with me.
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet posted by Helping You on August 14, 2002 at 13:10:50:
Thanks for the encouraging response. I think so, too. I wish more people would wise up--so to speak, so there'd be far less health problems. Looking around us, we hardly see anyone with vibrant health. But on the other hand, with enough awareness and some meal-planning, good health can be so easy to achieve.
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet posted by Helping You on August 14, 2002 at 13:10:50:
As i was taking my spiritual education courses, one thing was explained to me over
and over. The concept of "being at a higher level." There is no conceit in it, no
arrogance. It is an honor to serve, even though those at a lower level than you are
not apt to see it that way. They will resent you. However the reason why you cannot
operate as they do is because in order to lead, you cannot stop and assist each and every
person. Otherwise the group will suffer.
I do not feel "superior" being at a higher level, for the higher level brings a
commensurately higher level of problems to deal with. Likewise there is nothing
"glamourous" about it, as the responsibilities are also commensurately greater.
It is much like being in school. What are you as a 7th grader to say to a 2nd
grader who believes him or her self of equal mettle? You know so much more, and
see things far differently, but that is just the way of things. You know you
hae a far way to go, and in a pinch, you could lead those 2nd graders (at least out the
building in case of a fire) but your real value is to teachers who can use you as
extensions of themselves.
In this regard that is exactly what being at a higher level is. It is for the experience
of doing that when the time comes, not to "lord it over" those of lesser development.
My ego is not my spiritual development, even though many of you (especially the Christians)
are fooled. This is because you are seeing me through your physical eyes rather than the
eyes of your Higher Self.
Likewise, if you are going to take on a diet that is "at a higher level" you will have
some difficulty seeing it as such. The benefits of such a diet can only be assessed in
the fullness of time. It will put you in a better place, and others who see not the
reasoning behind it, or saw it not in the beginning, will resent you, and think you
arrogant, having airs of being better than they. Such is true, if only because you
had the clarity of forethought to want to be better off when the latter days are
upon you. There is advantage in both, even if not immediately apparent.
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
if you believe in what you are doing then don't worry
VF
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
Hi Bing,
I've been on the whole foods diet for about 3 months and plan to keep it for a lifetime.
Best wishes,
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet - Spiritual & Physical Higher Level posted by Gregory on August 14, 2002 at 13:54:35:
Hi Gregory, I'm not sure if this post was meant for me or not. It seems like it is, but there is a tone to it that seems like it isn't. I was just trying to show this person that he should be proud of the diet he is on and not think of it as being alienated. He is fortunate to eat this way. He has achieved a higher level of living and with it comes responsibility that he can be proud of.
-HY
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 13:37:51:
I agree. Now if we would only do something about our environment, vibrant health would be an even easier possibility.
-HY
In Reply to: Re: Whole foods diet - Spiritual & Physical Higher Level posted by Helping You on August 15, 2002 at 00:22:17:
It was a general audience post mostly, but I wanted to applaud bing's efforts while
I thought it might be helpful to expound on what spiritual education entails while I was at
In Reply to: Whole foods diet posted by bing on August 14, 2002 at 11:19:47:
Thanks, bing.
Apparently you are not alone!
Walt
Lightwalking,
Gregory
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Re: Whole foods diet
Posted by Vince F on August 14, 2002 at 15:50:41:
about it. You can't change the world so do what you think is
best. If you feel a Lot better eating what you do then there
shouldn't be any problems. I rarely eat out because of mine.
When I went off meat for a year it caused some
complications at holiday dinners but I told people where I
was at and we worked around it. I called the others
cannibals in jest and things went fine.
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Posted by Happygal on August 14, 2002 at 23:15:19:
Happygal
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Posted by Gregory on August 15, 2002 at 03:04:45:
at the same time explain that he may, when eating in from of others experience some flack
for his lifestyle choice.
it since both are conceptually the same. I hope you got something out of it.
Lightwalking,
Gregory
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