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Posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Received my copy of The Healing Power of Whole Foods a few days ago. I am very, VERY dissapointed.

I was anticipating a book full of good ideas on how to plan healthful meals for my family.

Instead I got a book that advocates vegetarianism.

Some of the unhealthful foods the authors recommend include:
Quick-rise yeasted bread
Low-fat and non-fat dairy products
Soy milk
Tofu
Unproperly prepared grains

The book also recommends avoiding:
Saturated fat
Cholesterol

If you want to learn about real, whole foods and properly prepared meals with good amounts of usable nutrients that will enhance the lives and health of your family, read
"Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon.




Re: Whole Foods Diet

Posted by Cindy [72.50] on March 05, 2004 at 19:43:45:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Ditto! I love sally fallons book and follow that way, see also weston price. I do add lots of veggies though! no soy, blahhh.



Re: Whole Foods Diet

Posted by Weston Price [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:57:19:

In Reply to: Re: Whole Foods Diet posted by Cindy [72.50] on March 05, 2004 at 19:43:45:

Weston Price is the man, no question.

Trouble is, there is no money in preaching good nutrition.

No glitzy commercials and billboards hawking raw, organic whole milk and butter from pasture-fed animals.

No celebrities on TV telling you to soak and ferment your grains and eat your fish liver.

As a wise person once said, "If it is advertised in the media, don't buy it."


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TELL ME MORE

Posted by INTERESTED [235.74] on March 05, 2004 at 22:35:59:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Hi, I was thinking about ordering the book myself, I guess its not for me if its all veggie's. Does the book you you mentioned have great way's to prepare many foods without eliminating ALL of the good stuff? I would just like to know a couple of good dishes to prepare, that are healthy. Im a meat eater myself,that books isnt for me.



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Posted by Nutmeg [86.58] on March 05, 2004 at 23:09:43:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Hi Healing,

I share some of your disappointment in the book. I guess for someone who's making their very first shift away from the SAD, and doesn't know what refined means or why it's bad, this book might be helpful. The focus seems to be how to eat whole grains as a replacement for refined grains, and most of the recipes are grain-based. Maybe it would be best for those with an agriculturalist metabolism.

It still disturbs me that the PWFD, as described in the book, forbids even one drop of refined healthy oil or fruit juice, yet promotes eating packaged and processed convenience products from the health food store and allows preservatives, MSG, and similar delicacies because they are not refined. Hmmm.

I've made a couple of recipes in there, but it's definitely not the first book I pull out when looking for an idea. I still have to try Walt's bean recipe, though...it does look good, but time-consuming.

Bon appetit'
Nutmeg


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Posted by Happygal [11.384] on March 05, 2004 at 23:38:45:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Hi All,

I have both cookbooks, Sally Fallon's and Beth Loiselle's.

I use Beth's book for the principles of the following the PWFD, and that diet works for me! I agree she doesn't use much meat -- which I eat a lot of -- but I just adapt the recipes to suit me. I find her lists of acceptable foods to be helpful.

Since I'm perfect on the diet, I can't use many of the recipes in Sally's book -- she has sweetners everywhere.

As I see it, each book has good points and weak areas.

I hope, however, that you don't focus on a few small weak areas and miss the whole point of Beth's book -- whole foods.

Best wishes,
Jan (Happygal)


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Re: Whole Foods Diet Find your way. This is one of them. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on March 06, 2004 at 07:13:36:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Healing,

This book is only one way to make the transition from the "wonderful American diet" to a diet that produces quick results withoiut risk.

Here's hoping that you will find your way.

Fifteen years of holistic practice, while using this book for my patients produced wonderful, and predictable, results.

Walt



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Posted by Jane [1475.4] on March 06, 2004 at 07:18:34:

In Reply to: Whole Foods Diet posted by Healing Power of Whole Foods [6.179] on March 05, 2004 at 19:17:29:

Hi Poster,

That book sounds like a shocker!

Could it work really well for you to take traditional ideas and techniques and adapt them, still using dairy and eggs etc if you're allowed, and wine?

Adapt the foods you already like by making them from scratch, using better (ie organic) ingredients, eating lots more vegetables along with your steak...the food pyramid put out by the authorities isn't too bad as a guide though they emphasise grains too much for my liking. I eat at least 10 'serves' of vegetables a day, and only two grain.

If you love dairy products, cream and butter etc, you can keep your cholesterol down by eating LOTS of lentils. Lentils can be glamorous and even meatlike if cooked with lashings of red wine and tomato and portobello mushrooms...

Don't be too resistant to vegetarianism - vegetarian food is wonderful whether you're vegetarian or not if it isn't humourless.

One of my favourite vegetarian food inventions (I hope it's mine!) for example is "Convincing Gravy" which takes the traditional caramelising of onion. I make it from slowly caramelised onion, tahini and home-made vegetable stock and have it on all sorts of things. Tasty! People rarely pick it as vegetarian...

Jane


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Posted by Healing [20.179] on March 06, 2004 at 18:26:12:

In Reply to: TELL ME MORE posted by INTERESTED [235.74] on March 05, 2004 at 22:35:59:

I didn't mean to imply the book was all vegetarian, but it does recommend vegetarianism as a valid dietary lifestyle. The truth is no group of people in the history of the world has ever gained abundant health and strength following a vegetarian diet. Look it up for yourself, I did.

The book does have good ideas for recipes, but to me they are only for people just starting to move away from the SAD= Standard American Diet, and changing over to whole foods that will enhance their lives not only with good taste and enjoyable meals, but also good health and abundant strength and energy.

I'm not sure what you mean by Good Stuff. If you mean sugar, refined carbs and junk food, yes, they are all left out. But if you mean good stuff like, eggs, butter and meat, the book advises limiting butter and includes very little meat in the recipes.

Contrary to what we have all been told, meat is good for you. Very Good for you, if it is not contaminated with antibiotics and growth hormones and not from animals raised in factory farms that are fed corn, soybeans and who-knows-what else.

For many great recipes, see Sally Fallon's book, Nourishing Traditions.


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Re: Whole Foods Diet Find your way. This is one of them. Archive.

Posted by Healing [20.179] on March 06, 2004 at 18:33:07:

In Reply to: Re: Whole Foods Diet Find your way. This is one of them. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on March 06, 2004 at 07:13:36:

As a starting point for those just entering the path towards whole foods and away from the SAD, it is an excellent book. What bothers me is how much it mirrors the establishment Food Pyramid and the emphasis on grains (and unproperly prepared grains at that). The advice on avoiding butter and saturated fat just dont jive with the honest scientific facts and well as thousands of years of human history.

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