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Hi, I have been trying to eat as healthy as I can for the
past few weeks. Since I am unable to buy the Beth's
book at the moment, I am working closely with this
website. As I am still not clear on whether eating only
foods that I am not sensitive to is good enough or
should I also try and eat those "safe" foods that are
WHOLE foods? For example, I am sensitive to wheat.
So if I eat rice pasta, for example, I am not eating whole
foods, correct? Assuming that pasta does not grow on
a tree... I am dealing with LGS. Please advice on this
issue. Thank you.
In Reply to: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet posted by M on October 15, 2001 at 12:47:15:
Check out "The Body Ecology Diet" by Donna Gates. It's a great roadmap for an elimination diet. If $ are an issue, I'd be willing to email a page or two of the recommended foods/approaches. You might also be able to get Beth or Donna's book at a local library.
Rice, flour of any kind, and mostly all grains (except millet, quinoa, aramanth, buckwheat) are NOT recommended in the early stages of the diet. The four that are okay should be soaked prior to cooking/eating.
Hope that helps.
In Reply to: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet posted by M on October 15, 2001 at 12:47:15:
Hi, M.
The PWFD is totally different than the elimination diet and both are used for TOTALLY different purposes.
If you mix them up, you will really be confused about what you are doing AND have unreasonable expectations of what your benefits should be.
What are you trying to accomplish? Perhaps if we knew that we might be able to steer you towards what is most likely to help.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 16, 2001 at 09:29:19:
I am 25 female and started SR and elimination diet
about 2 1/2 months ago and the problems that I
describe here are very minimal now. I have very very
mild case of rosacea (my nose folds where they meet
my cheeks) and it can look like POD but hardly
noticable - it first flared up when I had a lot of stress.
Since then it used to get worse around my cycle. I also
used to had cramps. Since I took magnecium
suppliment & started to eat lots of greens, the pain
have gone away or reduced to a minimal level.
I am tackling with my insomnia. I can't stop thinking at
night and I go without sleep for 2 days. Even if I don't
sleep, I am OK the next day all day. It is strange. I also
tend to breath fast.
The reason I changed my diet is because I have been
eating nothing but white wheat: bagel, muffin, pasta 3
times a day and drinking 4-5 cups of coffee for the past
2 years. I was not drinking water at all. I had a glass of
wine every night. This will sounds silly, but I used to go
to the gym after eating dinner because that was the only
time I could go.
I grew up mainly eating rice, then wheat products such
as bread & noodles and NEVER had any kind of food
allergy that I know of. As a child, I had a lot of milk, meat
and not much sugar. I don't drink straight milk anymore
since it gives me diarrea.
My dietary changes are:
Zero
wheat and wheat products
Cow milk & it's products
while sugar
alcohol
tomato -- as recommended by E4YBT
shellfish -- same as above
yeast
Minimal
fruits
honey
coffee
Added ( as I was not eating any of the following)
Chicken
Liver
Beef
Lamb
Flax & other oil blend for essential amino acid
Pumpkin seeds (raw) for between meat snack
Supplimentation:
Vitamine C -- ester 2000mg
Vtamine E -- 800mg
Vitamine A&D -- 200mg --> I was severely depraved of it
CoQ10 -- 200mg
Milk Thistle -- 210mg
Golden Deficient Kidney Qi pills 3 times a day
Primal Deffense
My question remains:
I don't know if I have food allergy but do know that I have
LGS as you say on this site. To be honest, I don't know
what the heck I am doing. I'd appreciate any direction
that you might give me regarding my problems.
Thank you for your time.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet posted by Beverly on October 15, 2001 at 22:02:25:
Thank you for the response. I would appreciate it if you
could kindly email me the food recommendation that
you described.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet posted by Beverly on October 15, 2001 at 22:02:25:
Email me at sekidodalton@yahoo.com. Thank you!
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 16, 2001 at 13:22:43:
Thanks, M.
My first question is: How you are certifying that your SR is working?
My first comment is that the Relaxation Workbook, mentioned so often on this BB, has a specific section in it about "obscessive thinking" that you describe as interfering with your sleep.
I think you are on the right track with your diet for now.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 17, 2001 at 09:11:10:
Thank you for your response. Regarding my SR, I am
using Brainsync tapes. I know it's working because my
skin looks better, more radiant, my lips are pink which
were pale, my finger nails are pink which were purple
before. Over all, I feel & look better. I was feeling cold all
the time before.
Please forgive me for repeating this: you said that I am
on the right track with my diet. Should I also try and eat
Whole Foods or am I OK for just eliminating "sensitive"
foods? To be specific, it is OK for me to eat rice and rice
noodle since I am sensitive to wheat? I need some
kind of carb, otherwise I whould lose weight and I am
already very thin I don't want to lose weight. Thanks for
your advise.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 17, 2001 at 22:38:50:
Have you tried brown rice and brown rice noodles? Both are whole food and very tasty. I really like the Minute brand instant brown rice - cooks fast and tastes more like white rice.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 17, 2001 at 22:38:50:
Hi, M.
As I said before: It depends upon what you are trying to accomplish.
Rice is OK when one is allergic to wheat.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 18, 2001 at 11:11:46:
Thanks doc --- my goal is to be free from rosacea . I
want my super clear face that I used to have --back! I
am willing to do whatever it takes. How long can I
expect to see the full results? The symptom has been
GREATLY improved that in fact, no one knows that I
have rosacea except my family. Thanks again for your
help. You are providing wonderful service here.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by kmd on October 18, 2001 at 00:12:30:
Thank you for your suggestion. I actually have been
eating brown rice & it's product. I was just wondering if
pasta was no good as it is no longer in the original
shape.
I found more alternatives, though. In China town near
my house, I found all kinds of "wheat-free" noodles.
One is "green bean noodle" which is a transparent
noodle with an interesting chewy texture. It says it has
no protein in it so I wonder if this means glutten free?
And there is a "red potato" noodle, similar to the green
bean one. I also found interesting kind of rice: black rice
& red rice. They have such beautiful colors. I wonder if
they are even better than brown rice.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 19, 2001 at 13:14:40:
Thanks, M.
For that you need to see LGS and the resultant candidiasis as the things to attack. That means the PWFD along with SR and exercise for a few months and then, while continuing your wellness, start the anti-candida materials.
Let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 2001 at 10:23:02:
I will let you know how things go. I may come back for
more question as I progress. Thanks for all your time.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet (Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 20, 2001 at 10:23:02:
Dr. Stoll,
You mentioned that I should work on LGS first, then
Candidas. I have read many posts here stating that one
should try and get rid of Candidas first, then correct
LGS. I bought Primal Diffense, before and have taken it
for a few weeks now. Should I stop? Also, some of your
helpers mention that one should not take Glutamine
until one have dealt with Candidas. Yet I have learned
that Glutamine helps LGS. Where should I start?? I
would really appreciate some clarification regarding
this matter. Thanks a lot for your support.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet -ONE MORE QUESTION(Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 23, 2001 at 16:04:29:
Thanks, M.
I know I have never said treat the candida before the LGS & I hope I have not archived anyone who has said it either. It is true that one might get quicker results (though temporary) by trying to attack the candida first, However, without eliminating the LGS, what would prevent the candida from returning at once?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet -ONE MORE QUESTION(Archive in diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 24, 2001 at 10:16:26:
I think Helping You is one of the advocates in regards to
clearing candidas first and not taking L-Glutamine until
"bugs are gone" I am not trying to prove that someone
is wrong here but the point is that this is why people
sometimes feel frustrated due to the conflicting
information on the board & archives all over the place.
So, it's: LGS -> Candida -> Rosacea ?
And: LGS -> Food allergy -> POD (I may have both)?
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Do you encourage taking Glutamine now? Even though
my guts have candidas?
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Also, how do you explain what those localized "slightly
dark tone discoloration" on my face are... places that
used be real rash from Rosacea. They don't itch or
anything. Just a pinch darker than other area of my face.
They have not changed since September.
Thanks again for your time. I really appreciate your
work.
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet -ONE MORE QUESTION(Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 24, 2001 at 13:38:44:
Hi,
Maybe I can help with a portion of this . .
The "Candida first" thing is one of maybe two things that the good doc and HY don't agree 100% on. HY's reasoning, based on what I've read, is that the Candida symptoms can be so severe they make people very sick, so for some people tackling that first makes sense. I am one of those whose CRS was debilitating and caused so much lethary, confusion, and general sickness that I was unable to function, unable to follow through with things, etc. This dovetails nicely with the following.. .
I don't know who said not to take L-glutamine, but I know it wasn't HY! Start glutamine NOW. It will not interfere with your other problems, and you will need to take this for a while before you see results.
If your Candida is bad enough maybe that should be priority #1; if not severe it can wait but be sure not to feed it, which will make it worse, before you start treating it.
I hope this is helpful. Of course, I can't wait to read what Dr. Stoll says. .
Take care, JoanNAz
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet -ONE MORE QUESTION(Archive in diet.) posted by JoanNAz on October 24, 2001 at 15:18:51:
Thanks, JoanNAz.
Your assessment is right on.
Treating candida first may well give earlier symptomatic relief. So long as the individual understands that they will eventually have to treat the candida again (once the LGS is gone) I have no problem with doing it that way--if money is not an object.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Elimination vs. Whole Foods Diet -ONE MORE QUESTION(Archive in diet.) posted by M on October 24, 2001 at 13:38:44:
Hi, M.
First, the darkened areas on your face(that correspond to where the rosacea used to be) are a form of scarring and will be as good as it will get in about 2 years.
Absolutely no harm (and likely some good) will come from taking the L-glutamine right away.
Hope this helps.
Walt
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