Whole Foods Diet historical posts July 1998

Raw Food

Posted by Greg on July 02, 1998 at 07:35:00:

A post from the Eat Right For Your Type site has me intrigued.
It concerns the benefits/dangers of eating food raw. I've
included a link to the thread. I would be very interested
in hear comments, especially from Mssrs. Stoll & Ferguson.

Walking In The Positive,

Greg



Re: Raw Food

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 03, 1998 at 06:13:04:

In Reply to: Raw Food posted by Greg on July 02, 1998 at 07:35:00:

Dear Greg,

There IS something to the advantages of raw food. Even Jesus, in the dead sea scrolls, said that no one should ever heat food hotter than it could get on a hot rock in the noonday sun (See the Essene Gospels translations by Edward Szekely). Unleavened bread was prepared in just this way!

However, in this highly stressed culture, the average immunity is greatly reduced, while the average burden is greatly increased, That leaves a dangerously small reserve to defend against the parasites, bacteria, etc., that inhabit much of the "meat" in our food supply. This is why there is almost a new disease of the month in the media. The answer is NOT to sterilize the environment--although that is the present effort. The answer, at least a presently neglected part of the answer, is to improve the general health of the population. Since there is little money in that, it will likley be the last thing that is done.

In addition, there are a lot more of those guys IN the meat since the animals ALSO are highly stressed and so have little resistance to these organisms. I have described why salmonella is a problem with commercially produced eggs as an example; several times on this bb. There has never been a case of salmonella from an egg produced by a chicken that runs on the ground.

SO, I guess what I am trying to say is that, for those people who are very healthy, raw foods would make them healthier. For those who are not exuberantly healthy, the present food supply is very risky eaten raw (animal products). Organically grown food is less dangerous.

Thanks for bringing this up! As with much of this, things are not so simple as they might seem on the surface.

Walt



Personal Wellness? friend AND foe..

Posted by Andrew on July 16, 1998 at 17:12:43:

To anyone with suggestions,

I have a mild case of acne (what ever mild is). Basically, I should be grateful that this is the only message my body mind is sending me, YET, I think about my face 24 hours of the day. I have ordered Walt's book along with the whole food books and I am reading Mind as Healer, Mind as slayer. For about a week now I have cut out ALL caffiene and sugar out of my diet. For breakfast I eat fruit (1 grape fruit, 1 orange, 1 apple) and sometimes a bown of raisin bran (which I should cut out do to the sugar on the processed raisins) For lunch, I eat a banana, an orange, a tomatoe, sometimes carrots and alot of mineral water. I ONLY drink mineral water.

The problem is that I am still only 17 and under my parents roof. Dont get me wrong, I love my parent with all my heart but when supper time comes around (the only meal i eat with my family since i work for the summer) My mom prepares the meal. For example yesterday, I had eaten all the whole fruit and vegis for breakfast and lunch. When I got home for supper my mom had white bread, some sea food salad and a barbaqued chicken. Now asked me if I wanted milk and I said I would prefer mineral water, I got my glass of water but she said I needed milk and she poured me a big glass. I felt really down during the meal because I was trying so hard to eat only whole foods and now I come home and my mom feeds me the foods SHE thinks is healthy. She would flip out if I said i wasnt drinking milk anymore or eating any meat. Now what can I do, I cant prepare my own meal while my family eats a different one. And I cant expect my mom to change the whole familys meal to brown rice and vegis each day. I know that if this whole foods thing is going to work, I will have to sacrifice a wide selection of foods with refined carbos and sugars to a smaller variety of foods. How can I do this while living at home. I could try to teach my mom about whole foods but I really cant see her turning the whole family into vegatarians or only eating brown rice, fruits and vegis. I dont know what to do. I can select the whole foods from what my mom puts on the table but this may mean I will eat less. How bad is it that I am eating 1 of 3 meals that have refined carbs and not whole? It has to be better than eating 3.

Secondly, I go tanning no more than once a week (sometimes every 2 weeks). I know just as much as others how un-healthy this is for my skin but during this acne phase in my life I feel i need it. I tan once a week so my acne is less noticile. I am only planning on doing this UNTIL I see some results from the wellness program. I feel that when I am feeling down about my face, I get really stressed, therefore it would make scense to go with the tanning so I feel less stressed. I am in the beginning phase of autogenic training though I am haveing difficulty even getting my arms and legs to feel heavy let alone warm. I will keep trying. Finally, how long should I expect before I start seeing results in my acne after I have started the wellness program. Thank you for any help or comments.

ps. I do exercise more than 20 minutes 3 times a week,

Andrew



Re:Friend

Posted by Jim on July 16, 1998 at 23:20:18:

In Reply to: Personal Wellness? friend AND foe.. posted by Andrew on July 16, 1998 at 17:12:43:

Andrew,

In a lighthearted and affectionate sort of way I’d like to swat you over the head with a rolled up newspaper and tell you to lighten up. All the stress you are putting yourself through over trying to do a "perfect" whole food diet is doing you no good. If you can continue with low fat, no caffeine, alcohol, and as little sugar as possible, you are doing GREAT. I don’t think you have to sweat chicken or a little white bread. Don’t you think your mom would agree to non-fat milk? You’re going to have to negotiate while you’re under their roof. If I was your mom, I might be just a little concerned if I knew you were eating only fruit till dinner. Are you using a supplement, and are you getting your essential oils? I do sound like a mom, huh?

You are no doubt better off putting your major effort into the skilled relaxation and exercise, and most especially the skilled relaxation. Check around where continuing education classes are being given, often they will offer some form of meditation, mind control, tai chi, yoga, or what have you. These would all be valuable in getting you used to experiencing relaxation.

You didn’t mention what form of exercise you do, but my acne (and stress) was greatly helped by SLOW, GENTLE, long distance running. If your body is suited to this activity, you will find that it is a form of meditation when done correctly.

I am handing you an Rx from the Fun Doctor and encouraging you to figure out a way to get your mind off yourself. I’m not meaning to dismiss your "mild" acne or demean your feelings, and I suppose you could take this as a condescending lecture from an adult who doesn’tunderstand. But I do understand. It has been eons since acne twisted my feelings, and I know that advice to not worry is probably not helpful, however, unable to resist, I must say, don’t worry, Andrew, you are doing the right stuff, keep it up, you’re going to be fine!

Jim





Re:Friend

Posted by steve on July 17, 1998 at 08:39:36:

In Reply to: Re:Friend posted by Jim on July 16, 1998 at 23:20:18:


Nice post Jim,

Also,
When I went through my worst phase of acne.... which was probably a lot worse than what your talking about, I started a strict diet. Since then I've added most of the junk back into my diet but, in moderation. I had pizza for dinner last night ! ! ! ! MMMMMmmmmm.
At first I proclaimed ...... Bad diet IS the cause of acne...
But, now I believe it has less to do with it.....
It sounds like if you eat your diet all day and then come home and eat a nice big "Mama's Dinner" it could be perfect..... you'll need some chicken, meat and variety for working out...... your not eating it all day and your not eating Taco Bell (I do ! ! ! ! ) so your way ahead of the game..........
I went nuts for a while about my workouts and diet....... I'm better off now just keeping on an overall workout and diet plan but, not worring when I go off schedule even once or twice a week....... Its what you do for the long haul that really matters

Oh yeah... I still don't eat eggs too often.....

And like Jim said.... Enjoy, don't stress over food too......
You've got some great years coming up........ 17- 25 was great... I'd love to do it again...LOL




Re: Personal Wellness? friend AND foe..

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:22:29:

In Reply to: Personal Wellness? friend AND foe.. posted by Andrew on July 16, 1998 at 17:12:43:

Dear Andrew,

Were I in your situation, I would sit down with my mother and tell her that I was now old enough to learn how to fix my own meals and that I wanted to do so.

The fact is that you ARE old enough to make these decisions and to learn these skills. You can have a place in the refrigerator and in the cupbourd for your stuff & just do what you are learning to do. If you can do this perfectly, both you and your mother will see benefits within a month and that should put to rest any insecurities she may have about your knowing what is best for YOU.

ALL research shows that people with dairy & meat in their diets are not as healthy as those who are strict vegetarians. It is too bad that your mother does not know that. Unfortunately, if she is like MOST mothers, she will not want to know this because it would mean that she was wrong all these years. You are going to have to take charge of this for yourself and the only way I know of is to take preparation and shopping for what YOU eat out of her hands.

Also, in my expereince, once moms see results, they are usually great converts to learning what you know.

If it were me, I would not even put any effort into the diet until I had digested the whole foods book. You can actually make yourself worse by just cutting down a lot.

Walt



Re:Friend

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:39:25:

In Reply to: Re:Friend posted by Jim on July 16, 1998 at 23:20:18:

Dear Jim,

As usual, you fill in the soft stuff around the hard edges that I tend to offer. I really think that your stuff is more important than mine--taken in context. I think both our stuff magnifies the effect of either one alone.

Hope Andrew reads all of this.

Namaste` Walt



Re:Friend

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:42:10:

In Reply to: Re:Friend posted by steve on July 17, 1998 at 08:39:36:

Dear Steve,

I agree that, of the 3 important things that make up wellness (so far as acne is concerned), diet is probably the least important.

However, the level of wellness depends a lot on the combination of all three and, in the end, it is the level of wellness that defeats most chronic conditions.

Thanks! Walt



Re:Friend

Posted by Andrew on July 17, 1998 at 15:26:35:

In Reply to: Re:Friend posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:39:25:

Dear Walt, Jim, & Steve,

I that you all for the comments and suggestions. You have to understand the spark of confusion and "stress." the whole wellness journey is due to the in-accurate facts about acne posted all over the web. I just returned from gliding through the net this morning finding TONS of "acne info" sites that say "diet has absolutely nothing to do with acne." And these sites are made by doctors and professionals. The amount of confusion is so great for teens . When a teen reads that, his mind is telling him,"Good! junk food and sugar doesnt effect my acne, mmmm..i feel like a burger and fries!" I think when people read things like that it makes them want to eat more junk food to relieve the stress (because it wont worsen the condition anyway).

Will someone please explain to me how essential oils effect acne?

Deepest of thanks.

Andrew



ALL research shows...?

Posted by Louise on July 27, 1998 at 14:59:02:

In Reply to: Re: Personal Wellness? friend AND foe.. posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:22:29:

Dear Walt,

I am astounded that you would make that statement.

This certainly can not be true. What about those of us who are fast oxidizers? When I was a vegetarian, I was sick as a dog. I only regained my health by eating meat.

There are countless studies done on the value of animal protein. I will produce them if you like.

Please tell me I misunderstood you, or that you did not mean what you said.

Louise



Re: ALL research shows...?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 1998 at 13:52:06:

In Reply to: ALL research shows...? posted by Louise on July 27, 1998 at 14:59:02:

Dear Louise,

Thanks for bringing this up! If YOU don't understand what I was saying, so must a lot more of the BB participants.

This is NOT an easy concept to get through to people since we all have been brought up to not look critically at "scientific research".

First of all, I stand by my statement. I will try to explain how I can do that & hope that people will take the time to check out my "facts":

All the research I have seen supporting dairy & meat (as they are presently commercially produced), as healthy parts of the American Diet, were done by the dairy or meat industry (or the Department of Agriculture as representative of the farm industry as it is now practiced). Remember, I was born & raised on a dairy & meat farm in Ohio.

Some of this "research" was done by the ADA (American Dietetic Association) to try to make it less obvious that the industry is really behind it. Remember those wonderful tobacco researches over the past 50 years????!!!!

Research does not take into account the individual. I was taught to throw out any "anomaly". However, we are now taking seriously the old adage: "The appearance of one sparrow proves the existance of birds."

All the independent research I have seen shows pure vegetarians living longer and having many less chronic "diseases of civilization" than those who eat the American Diet that is heavy on dairy & meat. Look at the statistics AND dietary recommendations before the first world war and after. Back then, every one "knew" that the vegetarian and "wild game" diet was the healthiest. However, the government had a problem with shipping calories to the troops across the Atlantic. They needed highly concentrated calories to make the trip more worth while. SO, they encouraged farmers to do dairy & meat. THEN, when the wars were over, they had another problem; what to do with all that dairy & meat?

A national campaign was mounted to convince the public that they needed dairy & meat to get enough protein for health. We now know that that was a very expensive solution to a temporary policy. ALL researchers in nutrition (except those paid by the industry) have reported that a person (following an intelligent vegetarian diet) cannot help but get about twice the protein they need. The current "food pyramid" is a faltering attempt to get away from the "basic four" recommended for so many years (since the wars).

I have said many times: "Listen to your bodymind." "Learn about ANY diet you decide to try and do it right." "Use your bodymind as a laboratory & SEE which diet is best for you."

ALL of these diets are helpful for somebody but NOT for everybody or even the majority of the population. The only things I have seen, published by reputable scientists who are not pushing the "party line", say that the average person will do better on a totally vegetarian diet than if they include commercial meat & dairy.

If YOU feel better including meat & dairy, your should do so. Unfortunately, the immediate benefits of that diet for you may not translate into a lack of chronic conditions after 30-40 years. We are just scratching the surface of this HUGE subject & NO ONE has all the answers yet.

I hope this makes this a little clearer. Wild game is a pretty healthy food. However, I know of few hunters that can still find enough game to feed their families. Commercial beef, pork and chicken have a totally different chemical make up than wild game (forget about all the hormones, antibiotics & chemical pollutants). Eggs, as currently "manufactured" are "ersatz" eggs. Dairy is so altered & filled with hormones & antibiotics that NO ONE should risk it.

BESIDES, the more concentrated the protein in any food, the more leaky gut causes the immune sensitivities for that food! For a culture in which the majority of the population HAS LGS--that still pretends that the condition doesn't even exist; who is going to believe THOSE "experts"
I could go on for a whole book. Perhaps I should!



Cholesterol

Posted by Hillary on July 17, 1998 at 15:53:57:

Dear Dr. Stoll,
I'm very thankful to you for you bulletin board and website. I found it 3 weeks after starting Accutane and immediately stopped taking it. Everything you've said about needing to find the cause and not covering up your symptoms rang so true. I knew it in my heart, but the "if it were my daughter I would tell her to take it" comment from my dermatologist clouded my judgment.

Since then, I ordered your book and the Healing Power of Whole Foods and am finding a whole world of information opening up. I'm in one of those stages when you learn new things and life seems so exciting and you want to tell everyone about it. The best thing is I am no longer addicted to chocolate. I though that would never happen. Sugar consumption is way down, I'm working on the refined carbohydrates and my skin is already changing for the better.

My question to you is regarding Cholesterol. My husband and I both have high cholesterol levels. My level was 318 at 18 years old and now, ten years later, is 228 with a good ratio of 3.36. So I'm not too worried about myself.

My 32 year old husband, on the other hand, has a ratio of 6.3 or so. His LDL is 206! and total is 268. He doesn't eat animal products, saturated fat is very low, he exercises about twice a week and has a physically active job. He is thin, doesn't smoke, and rarely drinks, so his doctor doesn't have anything else to suggest. She did send us the wonderful Merck & Co. produced page on diet that also says "if diet doesn't work than you need to see your doctor for a prescription". As if a 32 year old is going to take Mevacor or some other drug for the next 40-50 years. We found a natural plan to help lower it in the Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine involving, to start, 1 tablespoon of flax oil a day, 500mg of niacian, and 4,000 mcg of allicin. They say in 4 months you should have a 50 point drop in LDL, if not to increase niacin and add some other things.

We realize it is his own body producing the cholesterol, but could you explain what is happening in his liver? Why the overproduction? Can it be regulated through a whole foods diet? What does it mean for his future? I respect your opinion and would greatly appreciate your input.

Hillary


Re: Cholesterol

Posted by Peggy on July 17, 1998 at 16:23:03:

In Reply to: Cholesterol posted by Hillary on July 17, 1998 at 15:53:57:

Let me tell you my experience with cholesterol. I learned that cholesterol is kind of a fighter in the body. Your cholesterol level rises to fight infections in the body. High cholesterol is usually not a result of diet and people should not be put on pills for it. Now, I don't know the range of infections that could occur to cause the high cholesterol; but I can tell you what mine were.

A year ago at the age of 30, I discovered that my cholesterol was 275. This didn't make sense since I had always been athletic and mostly vegetarian; always been thin, never smoked, minimal wine drinker. But, yet, all through my 20's the chol kept creeping up.

I went to a wholistic doctor last Fall to treat other problems. I've been under treatment for Candida, Klebsiella (intestinal bacteria), and another intestinal bacteria which I can't recall the name of. Not a thing was done about my cholesterol. It should also be noted that during this time I became a couch potato (not proud of that) and have been eating meat. My cholesterol is now 138! That's 140 point drop!

I'm sure it dropped very early in my treatment for the intestinal infections, but, I just happen to have a blood test recently for other reasons and noticed the cholesterol. Also, I always had slightly high blood pressure thru my 20's, but now that has become normal and even a little below "normal." I hope my story will help you out.

Peggy




Re: Cholesterol

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 18, 1998 at 09:26:59:

In Reply to: Cholesterol posted by Hillary on July 17, 1998 at 15:53:57:

Dear Hillary,

Listen to Peggy! Her message helps to emphasize what I have been saying about the "biochemical individuality" of ANY chronic condition. There are too many possible causes for me to attempt to list them here. It IS possible that his main cause might be the same as Peggy's. It is just that her experience is in ths minority.

However, what I CAN do is point you in a direction he will need to go and suggest the most likely things that would help right now. Were I him, I would start the essential oils listed on the FAQ page of this 'site. I would also immediately start the regular practice of skilled relaxation. I would be very surprised if his cholesterol AND ratios were not normal within 6 months of doing that.

Most people do not know that, if a cholesterol monitor was placed in the vein so it could be monitored every second, ANY simple stress would make the cholesterol go up IMMEDIATELY and last for a few hours. This is a normal response and some people have it more than others.

You are right to be skeptical about the prescription approach. So far, every cholesterol lowering drug has eventually been taken off the market because, although the cholesterol WAS lowered, the patient did not live as long as those who kept their cholesterol up without the drug. Those still on the market have just not been on the market long enough for that to happen.

Write with more questions.

Walt



Re: Cholesterol

Posted by Dr. B. on July 22, 1998 at 11:45:56:

In Reply to: Cholesterol posted by Hillary on July 17, 1998 at 15:53:57:

Hillary,

Has your husband been evaluated for the possibility of hypothyroidism?

Years ago, before we started to rely so heavily on lab tests, physicians used high cholesterol as an indicator of possible hypothyroid function. Further evaluation might be warranted.

Dr. B.
http://HealthChoice.net


Re: Cholesterol

Posted by hillary on July 29, 1998 at 12:24:09:

In Reply to: Re: Cholesterol posted by Dr. B. on July 22, 1998 at 11:45:56:

No, he hasn't been evaluated for hypothyroidism. Are there other symptoms that may be present with that condition?

Thanks for your input.

Hillary


Eating Microwaved Food Is Like Eating Nuclear Waste

Posted by Greg on July 19, 1998 at 12:43:28:

I thought this was a rather thought-provoking article.
Serious health/recovery implications for many of the
solutions listed here.




The Body Electric

Posted by Mary Jackson on July 19, 1998 at 23:22:59:

In Reply to: Eating Microwaved Food Is Like Eating Nuclear Waste posted by Greg on July 19, 1998 at 12:43:28:

Thanks for the article Greg--I printed it out. I read on the D'Adamo O Board that meat has electromagnetism because of its enzymes (they supposedly carry a charge). I don't know where they got this information, but all this electrical stuff interests me in getting the body to operate properly. I have the book The Body Electric by Becker, but would like to know more about body electrical activity in relation to foods and preparation practices. Mary J.


Re: Eating Microwaved Food Is Like Eating Nuclear Waste

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 1998 at 09:29:36:

In Reply to: Eating Microwaved Food Is Like Eating Nuclear Waste posted by Greg on July 19, 1998 at 12:43:28:

Dear Mary & Greg,

Anyone who doubts the unknown dangers of microwaved foods needs to try the following experiment at home---remembering that foods are all more than 80% water.

Microwave a supply of water for watering plants. The water should get pretty warm but does not have to boil. Set is aside to cool & use it exclusively for selected plants when you need to water them. The plants watered with the microwaved water will die.

Water is much more than just wet. It is a food in its own right. Perhaps this tells us more about water than it does about microwaving but it, at least, tells the thinking person how little we know about what risks we are exposing our long suffering bodyminds to with our marvelous technologies.

Even Jesus said that food should never be heated hotter than it can get on a hot rock in the noonday sun (See the Essene Gospels). Microwaved foods always have "hot spots" that get VERY hot and heat the rest of the food via conduction. The hotter a food gets, the more the molecular structures change.

Thanks for the opportunity to add to this subject.

Namaste` to you both! Walt



Re: The Body Electric & your wishes...

Posted by Greg on July 20, 1998 at 09:45:12:

In Reply to: The Body Electric posted by Mary Jackson on July 19, 1998 at 23:22:59:

I think you will find this link of interest then.



On the other hand...

Posted by Lana on July 21, 1998 at 00:26:48:

In Reply to: Re: Eating Microwaved Food Is Like Eating Nuclear Waste posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 1998 at 09:29:36:

On the other hand, Jesus apparently cooked fish on coals and gave it to his disciples to eat:
John 21:9-13
9 Then, as soon as they had come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid on it, and bread.
10 Jesus said to them, "Bring some of the fish which you have just caught."
11 Simon Peter went up and dragged the net to land, full of large fish, one hundred and fifty-three; and although there were so many, the net was not broken.
12 Jesus said to them, "Come and eat breakfast." Yet none of the disciples dared ask Him, "Who are You?"-- knowing that it was the Lord.
13 Jesus then came and took the bread and gave it to them, and likewise the fish.(NKJ)


Re: On the other hand...

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 1998 at 10:27:28:

In Reply to: On the other hand... posted by Lana on July 21, 1998 at 00:26:48:

Dear Lana,

I do not claim to be a biblical scholar. However there are a few things I DO know:

The presently most commonly used Bible was revised more than a thousand years after Christ died. ALL biblical scholars report that it bears more resemblance to society at the time of the revisions than to the original writings.

The closest record of what was actually written at the time IS the Dead Sea Scrolls. Dr Szekely's translations of these records are very revealing. For example, Jesus recommended that people NOT even eat fish. His recommendations (2000 years ago) were almost word for word what holistic practitioners of healthy diets have been recommending for more than 100 years. The Scrolls were not even discovered until the 1950s.

Jesus recommended avoiding eating meat, fish & crustacea (principally in hot climates & seasons) and that the healthiest diet is of cheese, eggs, beans, nuts & grains with plenty of fresh & raw fruits & vegetables----sound familiar?

I would refer you to these originals by contacting I.B.S. International, Apartado 372, Cartago, Costa Rica, Central America (air mail only). Ask for information about the translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls with special attention to "The Essene Science of Life", "Treasury of Raw Foods" and the entire Essene Gospel of Peace.

Basing diet on what is written in the present day Bible is risky to say the least.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: On the other hand...

Posted by Lana on July 22, 1998 at 15:59:51:

In Reply to: Re: On the other hand... posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 1998 at 10:27:28:

Oh.
Of course now I'll have to study this whole revision thing because what else in my version is WRONG????? :-)


Rice

Posted by Keith on July 22, 1998 at 18:43:11:

Dr. Stoll

In your book you say to avoid white rice but brown is ok. What about all other types of rice (yellow, fried, etc)?

Thanks
Keith


Re: Rice

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 14:27:18:

In Reply to: Rice posted by Keith on July 22, 1998 at 18:43:11:

Dear Keith,

Rice only comes from rice. White rice is brown rice that has had all its bran & micronutrients removed. Only the carbohydrate is left. The reason this is done is so that the nutrition will be so poor that no self-respecting pest will eat it (they are a lot smarter than humans about stuff like this).
That means that it can be stored without spoiling for a much longer time.

ANY of these other catagories have to have on the lable whether it contains whole grain rice or not. If not, leave it for someone else to buy.

I hope this is answering your question.

Walt



Re: Rice

Posted by Dr. B. on July 23, 1998 at 16:36:21:

In Reply to: Re: Rice posted by Walt Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 14:27:18:

How about a rabbit trail diversion? Probably only the old-timers remember this...

Prior to WWII, the Japanese used unpolished rice. When MacArthur moved in, he mandated that the Japanese would use white, polished rice. It has been reported that his intention was to present the purity of white rice from the US as a metaphor for the purity of America. After MacArthur left, the Japanese never changed back.

Dr. B.


Re: Rice

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 24, 1998 at 11:45:39:

In Reply to: Re: Rice posted by Dr. B. on July 23, 1998 at 16:36:21:

Dear Dr B.,

I had not heard that one but it makes sense. The question now is: WHY did they never switch back. A number of chronic deficiency diseases have been directly linked with this switch.

Thanks, Walt



Re: Rice

Posted by Dr. B. on July 24, 1998 at 13:32:49:

In Reply to: Re: Rice posted by Walt Stoll on July 24, 1998 at 11:45:39:

The Japanese were impressed with the level of success of Americans manifested by their ability to win the war with Japan. For some time it was appealing to model after the Americans in some circles of the Japanese social hierarchy. They even modeled their economic development after the theories of an American whose economic postulates were originally spurned in the US. (Does the name Deming mean anything to you?) They did rather well with it until that economic structure began to collapse. Beginning to sound like a familiar theme? "Because the US is so powerful, they must do everything right."

Hmmmmm...

Dr. B.



Re: Rice

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 1998 at 08:28:28:

In Reply to: Re: Rice posted by Dr. B. on July 24, 1998 at 13:32:49:

Thanks, Dr B.,

Here is another opportunity for me to tell you how much I appreciate your sharing your wisdom with us here on the BB.

Namaste` Walt



weight control/water

Posted by Jannene Zobell on July 28, 1998 at 11:32:24:

I have been searching this site for about 1 hour. Without a functioning search engine, I have been frustrated, so I am asking the questions here. I am a mother of 3 children. My husband and daughter are lean regardless of diet. My self and two children are overweight especially in the abdomen and face. The boy and girl were of normal weight and appearance until approx. 8 years old. I use very little processed ingredients and lean toward a low meat diet. We grow as much of our food as we can (organically) We don't eat much candy, pop, chips etc. I would label our eating as a mediterreanean diet. I have been concerned because now that my daughter is fourteen, she is uncomfortable about her body. She avoids some activities. So, I read practically every available book including the Zone, Body type diets, blood type diets, lowfat diets. Talk about confusing. No one seems to agree!! I would really like some advice. My children are very healthy. My 10 year -old son had his first cold last year. He thought he was going to die. He had never had a sore throat or draining mucus before. Other than the weight problem, they are extremely healthy. I am still concerned. Other question is about appropriate water sources. Distillation VS filtration Vs other? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!!


Re: weight control/water

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 1998 at 10:33:29:

In Reply to: weight control/water posted by Jannene Zobell on July 28, 1998 at 11:32:24:

Dear Jannene,

Sorry about the current inconvenience with the search engines. As you know, ALL websites are forever "under construction".

However, there IS a way for you to get around it & that is the archives. The archives have their own search feature and are updated every couple of months. The most you would have to "search" would be the past 2 months.

Go to: diet archives

I think there is even a subject about water filters.

Next, I would suggest that you learn about one of the major mechanisms that causes appetite (trace nutrients missing for that person). This mechanism is the explanation for the pregnant person craving pickles & chocolate sauce. etc. If you do not undertand that, write again & I can probably point you in the direction of more information.

With a weight problem during the formative years, your kids will have a terrible problem for the rest of their lives.

What one eats is but one small part of "nutrition". With what you have done for them, it is unlikely that "what they eat" is a major part of the solution OR cause of their presently deteriorating condition.

It sounds to me like they have developed LGS & C-RS as an aggravating factor. This would dramatically alter how they respond to what they eat.

Let me know where to start with this process.

Walt

P.S. By the way, I think you are to be congratulated for your efforts so far. The problem is that, in this culture, NO ONE is safe from the stressors of the environment.





Re: weight control/water

Posted by Jannene on July 29, 1998 at 20:35:50:

In Reply to: Re: weight control/water posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 1998 at 10:33:29:

Thank you for your reply. I will investigate the archives and your book and get information on the LGS and CR-S as well as trace minerals. If that search generates new questions, I'll ask again. Do you feel that herbal parasite cleanse and/or colon cleanses would be valuable?


Re: weight control/water (LGS & Parasitosis)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 30, 1998 at 11:04:04:

In Reply to: Re: weight control/water posted by Jannene on July 29, 1998 at 20:35:50:

Dear Jannene,

Colon cleanses will usually give temporary symptomatic relief but, to resolve the problems, you need to deal with the LGS first.

Walt



Fiber

Posted by Keith on July 30, 1998 at 20:41:42:

Dr. Stoll

My ecologist told me that I cannot get enough fiber but I do not remember reading about fiber in your book. I have been thinking about taking a Rexall product called Bio Life 2. Do you have opinion?

Thanks
Keith


Re: Fiber

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 31, 1998 at 11:43:47:

In Reply to: Fiber posted by Keith on July 30, 1998 at 20:41:42:

Dear Keith,

I am surprised that I did not discuss fiber in my book. I guess I considered it well enough covered in other publications. I am sure that it is covered in the resources in the back.

The only thing I know of that too much fiber can cause is loose stools---so just cut back. I am not aware of Rexall's BioLife 2. What is in it?

I use the Equate Brand of Metamucil Generic. It is very inexpensive & your dose would be whatever dose produces the form & volume of stool you desire. It has to be taken every day to gradually work itself through the gut.

Walt



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