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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

I have been a good girl with my diet, and cooking at
least 2x daily (usually 3x), with major amounts of
veggies, some chicken, and Pacific wild salmon once
per week, eating my "good" oils, etc... Thing is....I am
am getting bored with what I eat. LOL....it is all tasting
the same. I use major amounts of garlic and onion in
almost everything I cook, mainly because I am eating
for health, and trying to cleanse my body and blood with
these two things (and they ARE AMAZING!!). I eat
collard greens daily because of the health benefits, and
then I mix up my diet with carrots, squash (many kinds),
asparagus, spinach, brocolli, cauliflower, bell peppers
(all colors), salads, yams, green beans, etc...brown
rice, chicken and fish and I put eggs back into my diet.
Also I am eating sprouted breads for carbs. When I just
can't cook because I can't "face it" I drink a green drink,
or a serving of The Ultimate Meal. Not tasty, but I feel
amazing after I eat a dose of that stuff.

So...I get to the point, as usual, that I am just not hungry.
I get bored with eating in general. Always have. I LOVE
the benefits I am feeling and seeing, and will keep
doing it, but I need some great ideas on how to make
these basic foods more interesting without dropping
the ingredients. For a few days, I got back into not
eating for many hours until I began to crash. I just
simply wasn't hungry, and I didn't want to cook. I am
back on my schedule, and feel good again, and will
continue to eat for health, but any ideas and/or recipies
that might perk me up would be greatly appreciated.
What cookbooks do you guys use?

thanks,

dd




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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 10:16:57:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Does anyone know why it is that people don't get
hungry, or feel hunger until hours past the needed
feeding?

dd



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Posted by Ron [1013.81] on April 04, 2004 at 10:38:27:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Hi DD,

One of the main reasons why hunger is not felt is because
your blood sugar has not dropped.

If you eat refined carbs, the blood sugar can drop in a hour or two. Unrefined high fiber foods delay digestion and prevent a high rise while keeping you from feeling empty.
Whole unground grains will also act in this way.

As long as you don't feel cold, clammy, dizzy or anxious
you don't have to eat until you want to. Just have some
water to prevent dehydration.

If you are not getting sufficient dietary calcium, the
oxylates in your foods will be excreted through the urinary
system, increasing your chances of developing kidney stones.

Ron



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Posted by WildCard [6.179] on April 04, 2004 at 10:49:21:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

How about some beef or lamb? It is delicious and few foods are as nutritious. Grass fed is best. Try some chicken soup made from free-range chicken with sea salt. Mmmmmmmmmmm good! Have you ever tried whole goat milk yogurt?
A wonderful cookbook is Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon.



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Posted by Lurch [1574.862] on April 04, 2004 at 11:16:58:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by WildCard [6.179] on April 04, 2004 at 10:49:21:

Sounds good to me WC!

I cook an organic chicken in an electric slow cook crockpot once a week, in pure water with sea salt (Celtic) and herbs. When I'm done eating the chicken I make soup with the leftover broth using lots of mostly low starch vegetables, turmeric, cayenne, etc. Sure is good soup!

The goat yogurt sounds good. I'm trying to find some goat milk locally.

Lurch




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Posted by Vince F [51.37] on April 04, 2004 at 11:25:42:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 10:16:57:

What IS a Needed Feeding ??



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Posted by Vince F [51.37] on April 04, 2004 at 11:36:28:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

what is the diet helping you with ? I don't feel good unless
I like what I eat. I don't think I get that much variety but
I probably do but I will eat the same things often till I
feel like I want something else. When thinking about what I
want and can't decide, I wait till I can remember the taste
of something I think about and what seems like the thing
that will satisfy me.

I eat sweets and snacks if they are what I want and will
satisfy me or Food when that will and it I tried to eat the
one I Didn't want it would make me feel ill, no matter which
it was. I also Can't brush my teeth till the taste of food
is Long gone. Just water would be OK but it seems like the
flavor that lasts is part of the meal and would affect how
my stomach feels and I wouldn't feel satisfied.

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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 12:09:28:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by Vince F [51.37] on April 04, 2004 at 11:25:42:

lol Vince!!

I literally could go days without eating, until I feel so
horrible I have to eat. Been that way since childhood.
My parents were quite freaked out that I would barely
put anything in my mouth at meals. I have a niece that
is EXACTLY the same way. She is ultra thin, like I was,
and her parents aren't happy about it. It is a tough time
getting her to eat. So, a "needed feeding," is basic
healthy sustainance.

dd



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Posted by Vince F [51.37] on April 04, 2004 at 12:30:55:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 12:09:28:

did you just Not feel hungry ? They say animals don't need
to eat every day. I had one who I Had to take weight off of
and nothing worked so I put them in the yard and Didn't let
them smell food or Ask if they wanted any. They went 2 and
sometimes 3 days before leting me know they wanted food. Then
I fed them all they would eat. The weight melted off.

It was years before I heard that predators Didn't eat every
day because they have to Catch it and going a week without
food wasn't uncomon.



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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 13:59:08:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by Vince F [51.37] on April 04, 2004 at 12:30:55:

Very interesting. What you say makes a lot of sense. I
suppose that is the case in general for most wild
animals when you think about it.

In answer to your question, yes, basically I just don't
feel hungry. But it is very clear that I need to eat,
because if I don't, my energy suffers greatly. So, I do
know I NEED to eat, even if my body doesn't ask for it.
Just some mechanism missing to signal me. I
suppose it could be genetic since my niece is the
same. She also looks exactly like me, and has exactly
my hands. It is the first thing my sis-in-law said to me.
"She has your hands!" And, she does. Genetics play
such a huge role in all this I am sure.

dd

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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:04:28:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by WildCard [6.179] on April 04, 2004 at 10:49:21:

Hi Wild Card,

I just had some grass fed organic beef the other night.
It was VERY hard for me eat it. (as a kid, I would chew
up the meat, and spit it out into my napking, and then
hide it, and throw it away into the garbage when no one
was looking!!) think this piece I got was just a bad cut.
Or maybe it was how I cooked it. It was tough. I have
some lamb in the freezer I got at my last shopping
spree at whole foods. I will get that cookbook you
recommended. I just need to start learning how to
cook in different ways I guess. I havent't experimented
much. Thanks for the suggestions!

dd



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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:07:50:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Ron [1013.81] on April 04, 2004 at 10:38:27:

Interesting Ron. Thanks. The problem seems to be
that I don't register hunger at all, and then I begin to feel
tired and anxious....get a headache and such. Even
then, I don't register hunger pangs very often. Only
once in a while. Not sure why....so, i make myself eat to
prevent those symptoms. I know if I don't, I will be
suffering later.

Know of any good cookbooks to help teach me different
techniques??

Thanks again,

dd

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Re: mmmmm-soup

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:15:22:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:04:28:

When I let myself vixualize the soup in my mind, and
then visualized Lurch's description of how he cooks his
soup in a slow cooker, I felt hungry!!! I literally felt
hunger. So it is the thought of food that is lacking for
me!! I don't think about food! So, I need to start
visualizing the foods I like and get on the pleasure
bandwagon. A new take on the situation!! THANKS!

dd

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Posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 04, 2004 at 15:55:55:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:04:28:

Hi dd,

My experiences with grass-fed beef is that it IS tough, and not as tasty as organic or free-range grain-finished beef. The ground beef is OK, but steaks and grill/broil cuts are tough, even if marinated and cooked medium or med-rare. I have had good luck with stew beef and stir-fry cuts that I slow-cooked (stovetop) in soups or stews. Other people on the BB have had the same experience as me, but others swear by it being the tastiest, most tender beef they've ever had. We must have tough grass here, I guess :)

To answer your question, I use a lot of interesting herb/spice blends. They are non-irradiated, no sugar, citric acid, flowing agents, etc. and are sold in jars, made by The Spice Hunter. Not sure what stores you have in your area, but our Albertson's stores sell them, and I think I've also seen them in some of the large natural grocery store chains when I'm shopping out of town. I sometimes use the recipes on the label, modified with my own twists, or just wing it.

Nourishing Traditions is a pretty good cookbook. You might have to leave out some ingredients (honey, Rapunzel sugar, etc.) but there are quite a few dishes in there I like, again, with my own modifications.

Bon Appetit!

Nutmeg



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Posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 04, 2004 at 16:23:58:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Hi there girl,
I was on the diet your on for a few weeks. I felt bla after awhile. I missed my fruit. I was over doing it on fruit sorta like Lurch, but not as bad. You might want to consider adding some of your berries back into your diet. I don't know what it is, but I got so tired of meat, chicken and fish and veggies/salads. I have added brown rice and some fruit back into my diet and I feel much better, phyiscally and emotionally.

(This is my opinion and experience ONLY!!! ) But, I feel like creative type personalities need veggies/salads/ meat protein and fruit in their diets in balance or they get bored. I went off of fruit totally and eventually I started eating sugar again to make up for the fruit. I had been off of sugar/processed foods for 3 years prior to this. Now that I have added some fruits back into my diet I don't feel that need for sugar foods.

I love Sally Fallons book. She has lots of good information regarding foods and lots of recipes for healthy eating with variety.

Hope this helps you some.
xo Barb



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Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 19:08:01:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 04, 2004 at 16:23:58:

Hey there Barb,

I do eat fruit. I forgot to mention that. I am eating
apples, strawberries, a few dried apricots everyday for
the b17, speckled banannas in my green drink a few
time/week, and citrus...(acid in, but alkanalizes). pears,
mangos.... I'm not on a strict candida diet at all. I am
doing very well without being so strict. I mix it all up,
and pretty much eat balanced. I think my problem is
that I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO COOK!!! LOL. I
mean, sure basic things, but really, not very creative.
So....I will let you know how my first "fun" dish turns out!!

xo
dd



Re: Thanks Nutmeg! nmi

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 19:10:25:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 04, 2004 at 15:55:55:

nmi

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Posted by Miss Bliss [4.275] on April 04, 2004 at 20:09:09:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Hi dd

Have you tried the Nourishing Traditions cookbook????

Also, what types of foods do you like? Mediteranean, italian, thai, chinese?

I got a ton of cookbooks, so give me an idea, and I will tell you some good ones.

Gosh , if you lived around here, you could have a few. I have that many!




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Posted by JC [80.56] on April 04, 2004 at 22:35:18:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 10:16:57:


IMO, there are those of us who simply do not get hungry. Most days I eat because I have to, not because I want to. My husband on the other hand needs to know what we are having for dinner before he finishes his breakfast so he " can think about it all day" (-: I find it very easy to fast and could go days without eating. I was anorexic as a teenager, and I think that I developed an unhealthy attitude towards food and eating. I thought I was eating right until I started reading this BB a few months ago ....boy, have I learned a lot. I am on an elimination diet now and feel better than I have felt in years... even after just 2 weeks. ( another story)
I guess before I just thought eating was what you did when your body finally rebelled over having no nourishment. It took me over a half a century to realize that food, especially the right kinds, IS beneficial, not the necessary evil that I once thought it was. Thanks......... JC





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Posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 04, 2004 at 22:40:08:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 19:08:01:

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..........have fun being creative! I just got a new fantastic cookbook. The best part is all the pictures! So I'll look it over and see if I can send you a few easy/healthy dishes.
;o) Barb



Re: To Barb

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 00:27:16:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 04, 2004 at 22:40:08:

Let me know if it is good!! I got to dinner time tonight
and I just DRAGGED myself into the kitchen. Geez...I
need a husband! LOL!

dd



Re: dd

Posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 05, 2004 at 00:29:06:

In Reply to: Re: To Barb posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 00:27:16:

LOL......I have a husband and I still drag myself to the kitchen.....well, it does help a little bit I guess.....;o)



To Miss B.

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 00:31:35:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Miss Bliss [4.275] on April 04, 2004 at 20:09:09:

There were a few others recommending that cookbook
as well. I will have to buy it and start whipping up
something special! I like all those foods you
mentioned, especially Thai and Italian. I haven't had a
lot of Mediteranian, but I enjoyed it when I had it. I am
such a boring eater!! That's it. That is the problem. I
don't have enough creativity in the kitchen!

dd

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Re: Barb

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 00:36:01:

In Reply to: Re: dd posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 05, 2004 at 00:29:06:

Oh bummer....I thought for sure it was going to be the
answer!!! LOL!! Actually, when I was married, and in
my last relationship as well, both of them loved to cook.
I was SPOILED!! Didn't even have to think much about
it. Oh well......now I see how hard it is to rely on myself.
To tell you the truth, I'd rather be outside mowing lawns
and pulling weeds....I am such a tomboy! Truly.

dd



to dd

Posted by Barb [1046.74] on April 05, 2004 at 00:48:04:

In Reply to: Re: Barb posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 00:36:01:

ME TOO!!!!!!!! You know dd, your not alone on the cooking thing. I'M so SPOILED, my husband is a GREAT cook and he LOVES it. Its the last thing of my favorite things to do. I'm like you, I would rather be out working in the yard or even cleaning my house over cooking. So, when I do cook its boringggggggggggg....I do the least in a short amount of time.....slap the meat on the barb-u-que, make up a salad and one veggie. Many times I will use the crockpot or stick a dish in the oven in the morning and let it cook all day.

I did get out the cookbook tonight, so thanks, you've inspired me. LOL.......

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Re: To the Board (The importance of spices.) Archive in diet..

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on April 05, 2004 at 05:56:48:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Thanks, DD.

The same thing happened to me when I was learning to do this UNTIL I learned how to use spices and became a student of creative cooking. Find a good spices book at your library or healthfood store and start your adventure in great tastes.

Another thing that helps is to make yourself a rule that you have to try one new recipe a week.

Let us know what you learn and how you do.

Walt



Re: To the Board (The importance of spices.) Archive in diet..

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 05, 2004 at 09:15:38:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board (The importance of spices.) Archive in diet.. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on April 05, 2004 at 05:56:48:

Thanks Walt,

Will do.

dd

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Posted by Nutmeg [86.58] on April 05, 2004 at 11:17:11:

In Reply to: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 09:41:31:

Hi dd,

Another thing I do when things get boring is to go to the library and look at the cookbooks. Our library has quite a few cookbooks for special diets (allergy, etc.), specialty ones like vegetarian, and ethnic ones that use a lot of interesting ingredients that can be adapted to a whole foods diet. I'll bring one or two home and start looking through them to see what looks good and what I can use without changing too many ingredients. Sometimes I try a recipe or two before I return the book, but most of the time I flag the ones that interest me and photocopy them before I return the book.

There are a couple of magazines I like to look at the new and back issues of in the library for ideas...Vegetarian Times, Cooking Light, and Sunset, and copy the ones of interest right at the library. I also have a collection of back issues of some magazines that I've saved for some of my favorite recipes. I often have to change ingredients (use cooked, dried beans instead of canned, or brown rice instead of couscous, make my own broth instead of canned or boullion, and omit sugar/sweeteners), but most of the things I've tried are pretty tasty and I've kept quite a few favorites.

The one thing that turns me off a recipe is a huge list of ingredients. Sometimes looking closely reveals that they are mostly spices and flavor enhancers like garlic and herbs, but even those can take a long time to prepare if you have to do a lot of chopping and mincing. In those cases I'll spread the preparation over two days (make broth or cook beans one day, make the dish the next), get my husband or mom to help with washing or chopping veggies and herbs, or we just eat late...LOL!

I make a lot of soups and stovetop sautees that give flavors a chance to blend.

Happy eating!
Nutmeg

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Posted by WildCard [15.179] on April 06, 2004 at 17:40:11:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by Lurch [1574.862] on April 04, 2004 at 11:16:58:

Sound delicious! We usually let the chicken soup cook for two or three days, that makes it extra rich. Last time we added some lamb soup bones, awesome! Then we use the chicken meat to make chicken enchiladas or fajitas.
You can find local sources of real milk at Realmilk.com

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Posted by WildCard [15.179] on April 06, 2004 at 17:49:28:

In Reply to: Re: To the Board posted by dd [1706.26] on April 04, 2004 at 14:04:28:

dd,
A good way to cook a tough cut of meat is to marinate it. There are many types of marinade you can use but buttermilk works great. Let it marinate for a few days in the fridge. It will be super tender. Also, you can use unseasoned meat tenderizer. Meat cooked in a soup or broth usually isn't tough either.

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Re: also

Posted by dd [1706.26] on April 07, 2004 at 13:21:00:

In Reply to: Re: also posted by JC [80.56] on April 04, 2004 at 22:35:18:

JC,

I hear ya. Me too....the same. Thanks for writing!!
Nice to know I'm not the only one out there feeling this
way!

dd

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