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I would like to embark on the totally organic whole foods diet, but I am scared. Not for any reason other than the fact that I had an on-and-off eating disorder for five years and have been trying to resolve this by "learning to eat" everything again without feeling guilty. The whole yo-yo diet scheme set me into a tailspin and sent me into the psychological mess I am trying my best to fix. Thus, I don't know if severely restricitng which foods I eat will drive me to binge and I never want to do that again.
Today was my dad's birthday and I had salad while everyone else enjoyed ribs, corn, potato salad and cake (the ever-so-healthy-American meal). Will I always have to deprive myself? Or will I feel so good on a totally organic/whole foods regimen that it won't be deprivation at all? I am totally focused and determined; I just don't want to revert to old habits.
All this because my sports nutrition mentor has said that I should not diet or make myself feel deprived anymore.
In Reply to: dieting: fear of failure and reversion posted by Bri on August 10, 2000 at 00:36:30:
Bri,
I have tried eating what is considered healthy and also
just veggies and neither worked for me. I also have a family
history of a father that ate what Some say was supposed to
good and had problems sooner than a grandfather who ate,
drank, and smoked what he wanted to and lived to be 104 and
was put in a home to Slow him down at 99.
I can't get myself to eat foods that don't taste good to
me and when I opt for butter instead of margarine that is
Supposed to be better and then hear all the problems It can
cause I am glad I went with my Taste. I used to work on a
job where they hydrogenated coal oil bit to keep it liwuid
at room temp as opposed to solidifying veggie oils so often
wondered if it was bad.. I prefer to eat a little butter
than all the margarine in the world though I know it is in
a lot of foods I eat.
I went on a diet a few days ago and eating everything I
like, just less of it. To me thinking about how much I am
eating helps me stop or limit how much. Instead of eating
a dinner i am eating One item I would normally eat in one
meal, each night. Tonite I had some stuffed rigatoni and a
slice of bread. Last night it was a cup of whole corn and a
slice of bread. The night before it was as many steak fries
as i would eat with a meal.
I snack during the day but have been stoping before I
normally would like when i First start to feel my stomach
starting to fill.
For me I have to feel strong to go on a diet and restrict
my intake and think about it since it is a lot easier to Not
think about it and just eat what I feel like or make. I have
been feeling stronger recently which is probably why I
started to diet plus slacks I like to wear are too tight on
me and I Refuse to buy a bigger size. I am one size too big
and 2 sizes bigger that when I felt the best in my adult
life. Being disabled hasn't helped since I used to have to
recover for 5 days from physical activity and that will put
on weight. being able to do things 2 days in a row and rest
on the 3rd and maybe get a little done on that one is
probably pushing me to diet and making it easier since
increasing activity will burn calories.
VF
In Reply to: dieting: fear of failure and reversion posted by Bri on August 10, 2000 at 00:36:30:
maybe its dysfunction thats driving you to crave certain foods...like candida or other parasites in you.
what did you miss the most from the meal that your family was killing themselves with ? tha cake ?
In Reply to: dieting: fear of failure and reversion posted by Bri on August 10, 2000 at 00:36:30:
Bri,
A quote: "believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if i have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"
-buddha-
find your center and believe in yourself. you know what you should or shouldn't eat. good luck!
In Reply to: dieting: fear of failure and reversion posted by Bri on August 10, 2000 at 00:36:30:
Hi Bri,
That's the thing about diets, and the expectations that lead us to think we need to diet. They make us feel deprived. But it doesn't have to be that way.
SuSan and leon both had good points. If you learn to read your body, you will be able to tell what foods are right for you. But if you have allergies/addictions, your body will crave for those and hide the real message.
If you go on a whole food diet, you may feel deprived. But if you find the RIGHT whole food diet for your metabolism, once you've cleared your food addictions, you won't feel deprived as your body will be getting what it needs to heal. For eg, if you need meat to heal, eating a salad while your family eats spare ribs will most definitely make you feel deprived. But if you feel great on the salad and sluggish on the meat, you can watch them eat the ribs without a twinge.
That's not to say you won't sometimes feel a craving for a piece of cake, or mouth hunger for something you know makes you feel bad. But if you get your body to a stronger place, you can still allow an occasional "treat".
I guess what I'm trying to say is : if you "diet" to feel better, it's much easier to stay with, than if you're dieting to lose weight or somehow look better. It's not easy, and it's hard work sometimes, but it can actually be quite simple, too. Have a read up about the metabolic diets in the archives.
Best of luck,
Deb.
In Reply to: dieting: fear of failure and reversion posted by Bri on August 10, 2000 at 00:36:30:
Hi, Bri.
My 2 bits:
Just so you know that I DO understand, I have struggled with this problem all my life. If there would be one thing I could change in my life it would be THAT!
I am the oldest of 7 children and every one of them have this same problem. Some have been more successful than others coping with it. Both my father and mother had a terrible problem with weight all their lives. I have 4 children and all of them have this problem to a greater or lesser degree. Two of them did not show up with the problem until middle age but that is common for the genetic susceptibility to this condition.
SO, it just behooves us genetically susceptible people to learn how to deal with it. Some of us will fail but most of us can succeed by making whatever effort it takes to DO it.
The PWFD would likely only be a tool in the direction you need to go. Every one is different. For some, it would be the answer. For others, it would only be a help. The same is true of Macrobiotics and any other diet you might try.
The main thing is that ANYTHING you try, that seems to help, needs to be stuck to forever--at least until you may find something that works better with less stress. ALL of them must be done perfectly since we have little information about WHY they work. The successful ones seem to change the metabolic mechanisms in the body but only if we persist in sticking to them.
One of the advantages of the PWFD is that at least you stop having withdrawal in a few days IF you are truly doing it perfectly. Another is that losing weight is not the only benefit of the diet (As should be true of any healthy diet.)
Let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: dieting: fear of failure and reversion (Archive in Diet.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 11, 2000 at 07:40:52:
First off, just so you know, compared to me, Walt is a toothpick! So clearly he is currently much closer to practicing something that works for him than I currently am to practicing something that works for me.
Thanks, Walt for sharing this. I think what you said about learning how to deal with things, using the best tools and techniques that work for us individually till we find a better tool/technique applies not only to nutrition, but also to exercise, SR, positive mental attitude, table tennis, EVERYTHING!
And I like what you said about "working better with less stress". Having been on several low-carb diets, I know that they work better for me than high-carb diets (DUH!). But so far I've not found one in which the stress of being on that specific diet was acceptable to me over the long term, in the real world, as I like to say.
I hope everyone reads and appreciates what you shared!
RHJ++
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