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Labrynthitis

Posted by Sonja on November 11, 1998 at 14:41:25:

Dear Doctor,

I am not having much luck in finding a lot about this on the web. I had Labrynthitis 2 years ago, rather severly. I was out of work for 6 weeks, but still felt the effects for about 8-9 weeks. I received a call from my mother last night and now she has been diagnosed with Labrynthitis. Ok, here comes the questions. Is this caused by a virus? I was told it was when I had it, but also that the doctors were not sure exactly what does cause it. Is it contagious? I'm going to see my mother this weekend, but DO NOT want this again. Is Labrynthitis very common? I had not ever heard of it until I had it. Are there ways to reduce the effects of Labrynthitis? I know about taking sea sickness medicines to reduce the nausea, but is there anything for the dizziness and feeling of being so off balance? My understanding is that a virus attacks the nerve in the inner ear and that nerves take a long time to heal. Is this correct about what Labrynthitis is? Are there other causes of Labrynthitis? What are they? How do you avoid them? I know this is a lot and I will really appreciate any reply. Thank you! Sonja


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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 12, 1998 at 12:11:00:

In Reply to: Labrynthitis posted by Sonja on November 11, 1998 at 14:41:25:

Dear Sonja,

Have you noticed that nearly everything we MDs don't know the cause of is caused by a "virus" (grin)?????

I would not deny that some cases of labyrinthitis can be triggered by a virus. However, I will tell you that--if one soaked a room full of people with that virus only a very few would "get" labyrinthitis from it. What is differrent about the ones who do not get it?????

The most common cause of persistant labyrinthitis (more than 2 weeks) is NOT slow healing of the damage from a viral infection (silly) but structural. If you do not hear an opinion from Doc Dave in a day or so, resubmit this note with his name in the title to draw his attention.

Also, I would see a Certified Cranial Osteopath in consultation.

Finally, do your teeth touch when you are relaxed?

Let us know what you learn.

Walt




Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Brent Dawson on December 14, 1998 at 21:03:47:

In Reply to: Labrynthitis posted by Sonja on November 11, 1998 at 14:41:25:

I was diagnosed today with labrynthitis after feeling the
effects for a period of time. I also have a severe case, but
have not missed much work. I've had the symptoms for
6-8 months, but more severe the past 2 weeks.
My family doctor prescribed antivert, but meclizine is also
a sufficient medication for relief of dizziness. It is a viral
inner-ear infection, and really there is no known "cure".
My doctor tells me it may be something I will have to learn
to cope with, as it can come & go at any time.
Do you also suffer from migraine headaches? Allergies?
These can contribute to one another, making the effects
worse.
Good luck, hang in there!



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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Susie on December 15, 1998 at 02:10:43:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Brent Dawson on December 14, 1998 at 21:03:47:

I was diagnosed with labrynthitis almost a year ago, after collapsing when I suddenly lost my sense of balance. I saw numerous doctors/specialists, none of them could really do anything apart from prescribe ineffectual pills for the balance disturbance. It cleared up after about three months, but seemed to come back very violently in times of acute stress - It came back again quite recently - a friend of mine thought it was due to the long haul flight I'd just been on. Who knows? Anyway, my opinion on the situation is it's a chronic condition (let me apologize to any doctor in advance who may refute this, but I've had it for a year) - but it always seems to go away when I'm healthy - ie my immune system is really up to scratch - (I did this by taking echinacea root complex) and also when I'm calm - yoga helps... And also cutting down on alcohol and caffeine really seems to help.

I wish someone would find a cure, this thing is a pain in the butt!


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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 15, 1998 at 09:22:10:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Brent Dawson on December 14, 1998 at 21:03:47:

Hi, Brent.

The most commonly missed cause of chronic labyrinthitis is STRUCTURAL. You need to see a good Cranial Osteopath or Chiropractor who practices cranial manipulation.

THEN, as you get over this "incurable" condition (by allopathic standards) I hope you will share your experiences with the BB participants.

Walt




Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 16, 1998 at 10:33:18:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Susie on December 15, 1998 at 02:10:43:

Hi, Suzie.

The definition of "chronic" is exactly what you have been experiencing. However, the fact that you already have noticed that it comes & goes in relation to "stress" should tell you what is causing it.

There is no doubt that it is related to structure & it being triggered by chronic muscular "bracing" due to the storage of stress-effect in the hypothalamus. This basic cause has been discussed on this BB for years.

First, you need to stop your habit of letting your teeth touch when you are not eating something. A good Chiropractor (especially one who also practices Cranial Manipulation) would be able to give you some temporary relief.
In the long run, only the practice of skilled relaxation at least twice a day for 20 minutes will permanently resolve this. Since this has been discussed ad nauseum, on this BB for many years , I will not go into it further except to suggest you go to the home page of this 'site & read about SR & TMJ.

When you want to know more, write again.

Walt




Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Debbi on December 19, 1998 at 17:30:16:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Brent Dawson on December 14, 1998 at 21:03:47:


Just diagnosed with Viral Labrynthitis this week. Started on a Prednisone regimine... This is terrible - hope to be better by Holidays!!! Any info will be appreciated...


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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 20, 1998 at 10:19:39:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Debbi on December 19, 1998 at 17:30:16:

Hi, Debbi,

At least 5 grams of esterified vitamin C, twice a day, will help like it does for any viral infection. Of course the real question is whether a virus is involved. We MDs, if you haven't already noticed it, are exceedingly fond of saying "you have a virus" when we don't have a clue.

Most acute cases of labyrinthitis are self-limited and resolve themselves in a week or so with NO treatment. If this is really viral, cortisone would be the last thing to do since it reduces innate immunity. If it is NOT viral, the vitamin C would be wasted. However, there is no risk to taking this much vitamin C so why not use it?

If it were me, I would see a good Chiropractor who practices cranial manipulation. If I did not get significant relief with the first visit, I would also see a local teacher of self-hypnosis and see how much relief you could get with that while Mother Nature got you over it in the length of time it usually goes away by itself.

Also, a no salt diet and drinking lots of water will help ANY labyrinthitis.

Let us know how you do.

Walt





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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Ann Blachly on December 20, 1998 at 19:27:54:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Walt Stoll on December 20, 1998 at 10:19:39:

Yes, water does help.

See http://www.watercure.com

and http://thyroid.miningco.com

My doctors told me it was salt and/or virus. I avoid medication like plague so did not take the medication or for very long. It's been awhile.
Salt had no effect. (for me)
I believe a high carb diet is to blame as this will also cause
water retention. To feel my best I have to follow a diet similar to the Atkin's or Protein Power.
I do not avoid salt, but do not use much either.

Since starting with the Atkin's diet in October of '95 I have not had a vaginal infection which before were fairly regular.
Other aches and pains were relieved as well.
I'm beginning to believe that the other symptoms that won't go away are hypothyroid related, but I have yet to find a MD WILLING to treat even though the test *at the time* reads within normal limits. I doubt they have compared my thyroid tests over the past 30 years.
The rest is up to me.
Just my 2 cents.
Ann





Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Julie on December 20, 1998 at 19:33:40:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Brent Dawson on December 14, 1998 at 21:03:47:

I was dx'd today. This is the 1st time my 37 year old body has ever experienced vertigo. It sucks. This arrived just as I was getting over a bad head cold w/ lots of congestion. Miclizine didn't do a thing for me so now I'm trying the patch of Scopolamine. So far, I don't feel any more normal. Any one care to give me a guess as to how long this will last? The PA I saw said maybe 6 weeks!


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Re: Labrynthitis

Posted by Debbi on December 22, 1998 at 18:30:33:

In Reply to: Re: Labrynthitis posted by Julie on December 20, 1998 at 19:33:40:

Fortunately I believe I am starting to feel better... It is actually to say that yesterday was the first day in about 3 weeks that I didn't feel progressively worse!
I am on my 5th day of Prednisone - not sure if it was that or just the rest, time & lots of fluids as recc by my doc...
The myclazine doesn't really touch my vertigo either - just took my time walking, etc... From Thursday afternoon to yesterday I didn't even get out of bed unless I had to... Now I can go to work - although still quite dizzy... I find riding in the car is the worst still... I think I will be able to have a decent Xmas after all - was quite depressed at the thought of feeling THAT bad. I understand it may be a couple more weeks until I'm back to 100% - I think I will take the extra Vit C as suggested! Can't hurt - especially this time of year!!!! I wear a hat over my ears & drink lots of water!!!
Thanks for the help!!!
Debbi




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