Dysautonomia historical posts April 1998

Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Cathy D. Horne on April 01, 1998 at 23:47:36:

How do you know for sure if the costochonditis diagnosis is correct?


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 02, 1998 at 09:25:34:

Dear Brent,

ANYTHING that causes the bracing part of the chronic fight or flight storage associated with chronic stress-effect will cause costochondritis. After all, it is trying to breathe through the chronically tight intercostal muscles that grinds the joints of the ribs into the sternum.

ALL chronic conditions are worsened by chronic bracing---
especially those that effect the connective tissue (lupus is a classic example).

The fact that you had to ask this question tells me that you would greatly profit by gaining a much greater basic appreciation of how all this works together. THEN, you will have an intuitive understanding that will help you answer this stuff yourself.

Walt


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 02, 1998 at 09:41:54:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Cathy D. Horne on April 01, 1998 at 23:47:36:

Dear Cathy,

Any COMPETENT physician can make the diagnosis in about 3 minutes with educated questions & cursary physical examination. That is one of the shames of the profession that first orders an EKG, chest xrays, etc., etc. BEFORE just taking the time to examine the patient.

Pressure on the rib joints in front should not be tender. It should not be hard for ANYONE to find these joints & press on them. If there is tenderness, it is very likely that--even without symptoms-- the person may have beginning problems in this area. This "misery" is only a warning signal about the bracing anyhow.

Walt


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Brent on April 02, 1998 at 16:29:05:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Walt Stoll on April 02, 1998 at 09:25:34:

What do you mean by "bracing?"

Is costochondritis sometimes a prelude to lupus?


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 1998 at 07:32:31:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Brent on April 02, 1998 at 16:29:05:

Dear Brent,

If you can imagine what your muscles would be like if you had been hiding in the brush while an endless pride of sabretooth tigers passed by within an arm's reach, you would know what bracing is. The kind of "stressors" we are exposed to in this culture causes this tight muscle storage in nearly everyone.

Costochondritis is MUCH more likely a precurser of chronic fatigue syndrome, TMJ, arthritis, tendonitis, fibromyositis, hypertension, high cholesterol, coronaries, strokes and the like than it would be of lupus--although, depending on your genetic susceptibility, it might be the first warning of that slippery slope.

I hope I have made this clearer to you.

Walt


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Susan on April 04, 1998 at 11:04:12:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 1998 at 07:32:31:

My maternal grandmother had lupus, and I have been diagnosed with costochondritis. It has bothered me for around 2 years. What are the tests for lupus? How accurate are they? I have heard of a blood test, is it accurate? What is the blood test's name and where can you go to have it done?


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Allan on April 04, 1998 at 11:06:43:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 1998 at 07:32:31:

You said that costochondritis could be a prelude to TMJ. What is TMJ?


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Brent on April 05, 1998 at 14:59:05:

My fingernails turn blue very easily when i get the slightest bit cold. That is a thing that i forgot to mention with chest pain.


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 06, 1998 at 10:57:30:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Susan on April 04, 1998 at 11:04:12:

Dear Susan,

There are several blood tests. There is also biopsy if any lesions can be found to biopsy. The biopsy is 100% accurate but the blood tests are not. However, these approaches are the only things available yet. NO physician should treat a blood test. S/he should treat the person. That means that a thorough history & physical is an integral part of this diagnosis. Only a licensed physician can order, or do, these tests.

I would suggest you see a physician who at least practices complementary medicine so that a more reasoning approach to diagnosis & management will be offered. When you are ready to do THAT, let us know & I will point you in the direction fo finding someone to see in consultation. If I knew the part of the counrty you were from, I might know someone personally there.

Walt


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 06, 1998 at 11:05:03:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Allan on April 04, 1998 at 11:06:43:

Dear Allan,

TMJ results when one has a habit of allowing their teeth to touch when they are not biting something. This always finally results in the person holding more, & more, tension in the jaw muscles. The teeth should never touch except when chewing something.

Tempero-Mandibular Joint Syndrome is now well enough known that any library would have many references about it. Be careful that you understand enough about TMJ to not jump into invasive teratment for it since getting rid of the cause is more effective, safer & a lot less expensive.

My homepage has a brief description (link on this page).

Walt


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 07, 1998 at 09:15:02:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Brent on April 05, 1998 at 14:59:05:

Dear Brent,

I would bet that you always have cond hands & feet as well.

This is a classical case of dysautonomia caused by the intolerable storage of stress-effect in the hypothalamus I have been talking about here on the internet for many years. The bracing that directly causes the costochondritis is but another part of this stress effect. My book and Dr Pelletier's book "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" would explain it in great depth.

Now how did I know that you always had cold hands & feet????

Walt



Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Susan on April 07, 1998 at 21:36:08:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Walt Stoll on April 06, 1998 at 10:57:30:

What are the names of some of the lupus blood tests that you would recommend?


Re: Costochonditis

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 08, 1998 at 13:30:47:

In Reply to: Re: Costochonditis posted by Susan on April 07, 1998 at 21:36:08:

Dear Susan,

Back when I used to order them, they were called "latex fixation" and "ANA". If they do not have better tests now, my profession should be ashamed. If the only thing they are going to practice is strictly conventional medicine, at least they should do a superlative job of THAT.

Walt



itchy swollen hands

Posted by Cheryl on April 13, 1998 at 18:01:11:

I am a 37 year old female whose hands swell up and become very itchy during exercise, my Dr. told me it was an allergic reation to something I ate. Well it has happened on numerous occasions and can not believe I've eaten the same thing. The itchiness is very strong especially between my fingers. It goes away after the exercise has stopped, although it takes some time. What can this be?

Cheryl


Re: itchy swollen hands

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 15, 1998 at 10:23:22:

In Reply to: itchy swollen hands posted by Cheryl on April 13, 1998 at 18:01:11:

Dear Cheryl,

This is an early sign of developing dysautonomia. Your bodymind is trying to send you a message.

I would not deny that a food allergy might be contributing to this at this stage but saying that that is the cause is simplistic in the extreme.

In the long run, the only solution to this is the regular practice of effective skilled relaxation, at least 20 minutes twice a day (not counting any you might do within 2 hours of retiring). In the meantime, you need to learn a lot more about this. MY book (link below) would get you started in the right direction. THEN, you could REALLY get into it by reading a cbook that was written about you that is referenced in MY book: "Mind as Healer, Miknd as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. There are even some articles on the homepage of this 'site that would help you get started.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again. Do not neglect this. If you do not do something about THIS message, your bodymind will just have to shout louder.

Walt


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