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Posted by merry walker on December 04, 1998 at 23:26:55:

My daughter in law is totally against modern medicine. She uses herbs to treat her 2 children . the oldest who is 5 has alleregist and is constantly sick. he had an ear that felt very hot . I commented on it . he cried and threw up and then screamed that is jaw hurt. I saw stuff running from his ear she said it was lobedlia an herb, She finally took him to doctor who diganosed a ruptured eardrum she refuse antibotic because she had a bad reaction. This chil wheeze most of the time and it break my heart to know that he is neglected in health care other than herbs. Do you have an intelligent argue that I can use to get her to see the importants of treatment when it is called for. SHe is totally against modern medicine because of her experience. She is a college graduate with the IQ of a genius but lacking common sense. She keeps my son in a state of stress she threatens to leave if he takes these boys for antibotics and streps test. Saying she know what she is doing. I hurt my soul to hold this child crying and throwing up with fever and she said it only a 24 hour virus. I am afraid something bad is going to happen. SHe is super smart but refusing to listen to anyone. Please give me some suggestions that might make her see otherwise where these children are concern. She also refuse to have the dpt shot and she home schools. Bother she and her husband are college education and are professional people.


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Re: eardrum

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on December 05, 1998 at 08:33:30:

In Reply to: eardrum posted by merry walker on December 04, 1998 at 23:26:55:

The problem with modern medicine is a high IQ with no common sense. They see everything as Black&White. The very SAME thing your daughter is doing. She's "throwing the baby out with the bath water."

Her child's body has amazing recuperative abilities but there are times when the illness is greater than the vitality of the person. When this is occurring to a point that health enhancing practices are not effective enough to help resolve the problem then you should be glad that the medication is there and it may be time to use it. Every decision is a Benefits vs. Costs decision. When things get this bad it is worth the risk, thus the benefit outweighs the cost. I have had one round of antibiotics and one tetanus shot in my whole life. No vaccinations and no immunizations. So you can see which side of the fence I sit on, but there is a time and a place for medicine and WE have to be educated on when that time and place is because modern medicine will push it on us at every turn.

There isn't a need to run to the MD everytime a child throws up or runs a fever. We have been programed to it but it's just wrong. Taking that statement to the extreme and avoiding medical care and then finding out the child has a ruptured eardrum and then refusing treatment constitutes child neglect. Not just based on one of those 'vaccinate your children' laws but on the very principles of child neglect. My wife is a social worker and I've seen more than one case where the mother and child have had to spend some time apart so that the mother could work on learning how to be truely responsible for another human being. And these are good mothers who just make some bad decisions.

I wish you, your daughter, and her child the best of luck.

David Ferguson, D.C.



Re: eardrum

Posted by Kaye on December 05, 1998 at 09:15:52:

In Reply to: eardrum posted by merry walker on December 04, 1998 at 23:26:55:

Dear Merry,

It's time your son took a stand!000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 The child's health is too important to take chances with. If your daughter-in-law walks, she walks. Either way, this child is already suffering. Neglect is inexcusable.

Kaye


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Re: eardrum

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 05, 1998 at 11:55:35:

In Reply to: eardrum posted by merry walker on December 04, 1998 at 23:26:55:

Dear Merry,

EVEN conventional medicine now knows that antibiotics for ear infections do NOTHING.

However, the mother also needs to know that more than 95% of all recurrent ear infections (the ones that would rupture an eardrum) are caused by dairy sensitivity. Within a month after eliminating every trace of dairy, 95% of these kids will be normal--AS LONG AS THEY STAY AWAY FROM DAIRY. Years later they might try dairy again without recurrence.

All of the rest have demonstrable LGS and C-RS. If she doesn't know about that, she needs to learn about it as it is the most likely way for her to avoid this problem.

Walt




Re: eardrum (rush to judgement)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 05, 1998 at 12:03:21:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Kaye on December 05, 1998 at 09:15:52:

Dear Kaye,

Take a look at my take on this I answered directly to Merry.

For 10+ years all the medical literature says decongestants do nothing for otitis media. For the past 2-3 years all the medical literature says antibiotics do nothing either. What would you have the conventional doc do?

I can recall treating ALL my recurrent otitis media patients with decongestants and antibiotics. I did not know any better either for the first 15 years of my practice. 99-1 any conventional doc would ignore the medical literature and prescribe both the above. Talk about UNSCIENTIFIC MEDICINE?!

ALL docs would like to think that they were doing SOMETHING. SO, we order something & take the credit when it clears up on its own. ALL medical literature says that that is what we all have been doing for the past 40-50 years.

Walt




Re: eardrum

Posted by Janis on December 06, 1998 at 23:17:42:

I understand Merry concerns for her grandchild. My husband was into herbal medicine which I approved until it came to our child. She developed a fever and after three days of my pleading with him I took her to the doctor. It her drum was ruptured not only that but there was scar tissue from old infections. My husband refused to let me give her the medication. I submitted and now my child has partial hearing lost. My husband has since understood the important of conventional medical treatment. He has had emotional problem over his stubborness in this matter. We now use herb for preventive medicine and don't put our child in jeopardy. As was explained to my husband by our preacher and lawyer our child has a right to medical treatment. I thank GOd he can to his senses in time. He must live with the knowledge that he is partly responsible for our daughters handicap.


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Re: eardrum

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 07, 1998 at 11:28:21:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Janis on December 06, 1998 at 23:17:42:

Dear Janis,

You are not going to like what I have to say but I hope you will at least think about it. As a conventional MD (Board Certified in Family Practice) for 30 years I KNOW what we were taught in medical school about otitis media.

I also know that all that we were taught has now been proven to be wrong. Neither decongestants nor antibiotics do anything for otitis media. SO, without knowing how to prevent the problem, visits to the conventional MD would not have made any difference in the "handicap" you are blaming your husband for!

Read the responses I have made to this subject this week; if you really want to know rather than just to blame. If there is anyone to blame it is my MD profession for suppressing the preventive of this condition from the public knowledge just for the support of our monopoly. The public is not to be blamed for believing the MDs in the past: "If you can't trust your doctor, who can you trust?"

Well, the public no longer has that excuse so, from about 10 years ago, the public shares the blame for the perpetuation of the false impression that antibiotics and decongestants (with the occasional myringotomy & insertion of ear tubes thrown in for good measure) are the treatment for recurrent otitis media.

For you to make such a strong statement tells me that you are living in the past & it is time for you to catch up & let the poor husband off the hook. You are wrong about this one!
I wonder if he will ever see this?

Walt



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Re: eardrum

Posted by Michael on December 07, 1998 at 13:26:42:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Walt Stoll on December 07, 1998 at 11:28:21:

Since I also have children who suffer from ear infections. How do you recommend treating an ear infection before it develops into a ruptured eardrum as Merry grandchilds did?
This is a concern to lots of parents and caregivers of the young. Also how would you now treat a ruptured eardrum??


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Antibiotics are NOT effective for ear infections. Even the most "medical" of groups admits this.

Posted by David Ferugson, D.C. on December 07, 1998 at 13:39:13:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Walt Stoll on December 07, 1998 at 11:28:21:

Dr. Stoll is 100% dead on it. Even the "big" medical journals are repeatedly reporting how antibiotics are not only ineffective but acually increase the number of infections. Janis, make sure your husband takes a look at the following so that he can know that he had NOTHING to do with the unfortunate results of his childs ear infection.

Antibiotic treatment of otitis media is no more effective than placebo, and ncreases the risks of reoccurrence.
* Cantekin EI. Antibiotics to prevent acute otitis media and to treat otitis media with effusion. JAMA 1994; 272(3):203-4 / Medline ID: 94293436

To determine the effect of antibiotic treatment for acute otitis media in children six studies of children aged 7 months to 15 years
were reviewed. 60% of placebo treated children were pain free within 24 hours of presentation, and antibiotics did not
influence this. Antibiotics seemed to have no influence on subsequent attacks of otitis media or deafness at one month.
Antibiotics were associated with a near doubling of the risk of vomiting, diarrhoea, and/or rashes. Early use of antibiotics
provides only modest benefit for acute otitis media: to prevent one child from experiencing pain by 2-7 days after presentation,
17 children must be treated with antibiotics early.
* Del Mar C, Glasziou P, Hayem M, Are antibiotics indicated as initial treatment for children with acute otitis media? A meta-analysis., BMJ 1997; 314(7093) :1526-9 /
Medline ID: 97326380

Records from 2,089 otitis media patients were examined to determine incidence and treatment success. There was no
difference in success rates between antibiotic and no antibiotic therapies.
* Tilyard MW; Dovey SM; Walker SA. Otitis media treatment in New Zealand general practice. N Z Med J 1997; 110(1042):143-5 / Medline ID: 97296886

Patient recovery from otitis media seemed not to be influenced by either the type of antibiotic given, or the period of time for
which it was given, except that the rates of recovery were better in patient's of all age groups who did not receive any antibiotic
therapy at all.
* Froom J, Culpepper L, Grob P, et al, Diagnosis and antibiotic treatment of acute otitis media: report from international primary care network, BMJ 1990; 300(6724):582-6 /
Medline ID: 90212921

Antibiotics are not the best treatment for middle ear infections (otitis media) and doctors should stop routinely prescribing drugs
for them.
* Froom J; Culpepper L; Jacobs M; DeMelker RA; Green LA; van Buchem L; Grob P; Heeren T. Antimicrobials for acute otitis media? A review from the International Primary
Care Network. BMJ 1997; 315(7100): 98-102 / Medline ID: 97384382


Few issues in clinical medicine are as controversial as the efficacy and risks associated with antibiotic treatment of otitis media.
Recent studies document the emergence and rapid spread of drug-resistant streptococcus pneumoniae in acute and
unresponsive otitis as well as persistent effusions and chronic suppurative otitis. It is best to avoid the antibiotic treatment
dilemma as much as possible by not over diagnosing otitis media.
* Berman S; Management of acute and chronic otitis media in pediatric practice. Curr Opin Pediatr 1995; 7(5):513-22 / Medline ID: 96120875



Re: eardrum

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on December 07, 1998 at 13:49:46:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Michael on December 07, 1998 at 13:26:42:

Dr. Stoll will point you in the direction of some excellent dietary considerations regarding childhood ear infections. Meanwhile, here is some information on what appears to be an invaluable option when these infections do occur. As for what to do when a rupture does occur, I really have no idea.


The key to the pathogenesis of otitis media appears to be the eustachian tube. Inappropriate function of the tensor veli palatini
muscle, the small muscle responsible for opening and closing the eustachian tube, may be due to delayed nerve supply. When
normal function is present, fluid is free to drain away from the middle ear. In abnormal function, fluid is trapped and the middle
ear initiates an inflammatory response. [1] [2]

Motor nerve fibers can be traced from the tensor veli palatini, to the superior cervical sympathetic ganglion. The cervical plexus
receives these fibers between the spinal levels of C-l through C-4. Subluxation’s affecting these levels may be responsible for
deranged function of the tensor veli palatini muscle resulting in the pathological response of otitis media. Restoring the spine to
its proper alignment through chiropractic care should result in the return of normal nerve supply to the tensor veli palatini muscle
and ultimately normal function of the eustachian tube.

Two hundred pediatricians and two hundred chiropractors that were selected were surveyed to determine what, if any,
differences were to be found in the health status of their respective children as raised under the different health care models.
The 'chiropractic' children showed a 69% otitis media free response, while the 'medical' children only had a 20% otitis media
free response. 18.

93% of all episodes of otitis media treated with chiropractic care improved, 75% in 10 days or fewer and 43% with only one
or two treatments. This study's data indicates that limitation of medical intervention and the addition of chiropractic care may
decrease the symptoms of ear infection in young children. 14.

The author has presented a case series of five patients with chronic recurrent otitis media who underwent a program of
chiropractic case management, including specific spinal adjustments. All patients had excellent outcomes with no residual
morbidity or complications. The associated morbidity of current medical and surgical options for otitis media with effusion
(OME), coupled with a lack of rigorous experimental designs in some reports, further necessitates the exploration of alternative
approaches to case management. 28.

1. Gray H; Anatomy of the Human Body. 29th American ed. CM Gross ed. New York, Lea and Febiger, 1973.

2. Webster DB; Packer DJ; Webster M; Functional anatomy of the external and middle ear. Ear Nose Throat J 1985; 64(6):275-81 / Medline ID: 85230199

18. van Breda WM; van Breda JM. A comparative study of the health status of children raised under the health care models of chiropractic and allopathic medicine. J Chiro Res
1989; 5:101-3 / Mantis ID: 10048

14. Froehle RM; Ear infection: a retrospective study examining improvement from chiropractic care and analyzing for influencing factors. J Manipulative Physiol Ther 1996;
19(3):169-77 / Medline ID: 96294956

28. Fysh PN Chronic recurrent otitis media: Case series of five patients with recommendations for case management. J Clin Chiro Ped 1996; 1(2): 6 / Mantis ID: 36438





Re: eardrum

Posted by Peggy on December 07, 1998 at 18:14:36:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Michael on December 07, 1998 at 13:26:42:

My 18 month old has only had 1 ear infection and that was because I didn't know that you don't give them a bottle while laying down. So, I guess this would be bacterial. Actually, I then realized that he had one earlier (making it 2) and it apparently went away on its own. As for the one I did treat, I gave him: acidophilus, zinc, arnica, echinacea. Also, with my thumb, I rubbed behind his ear in a downward motion towards his neck. (As a note, I only feed him whole fruits/veggies/grains. No processed foods/sugar whatsoever.)

Peggy





Re: eardrum

Posted by Jonathan on December 07, 1998 at 23:48:00:

In Reply to: eardrum posted by merry walker on December 04, 1998 at 23:26:55:

Merry-
Where is the husband during all this? I wonder if this could
have all been prevented by taking that child to a ped doc
before the rupture??? I really do not think it could have been. Many if these infections will go away on there on.
Do not worry so much about the d-i-l...Just make sure your son is aware he is half owner of the child. A well check twice a year should suffice. That seems to be a good defense if the d-i-l is an extremist (if she totally rebukes modern medicine). However, many docs do as much harm as they good because of the attitude "I have to do something"...why? Many times just" because"...or a whiny
patient. Playing the odds. The grandson will live to be a happy old man. Hedging the odds are the bi-annual check
ups to rule out hidden killers...That herbs cannot see, touch or feel. Thanks-Jon



Re: eardrum (Options for treating/preventing)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 08, 1998 at 12:30:26:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum posted by Michael on December 07, 1998 at 13:26:42:

Dear Michael,

Listen to Doc Dave.

Also, consider this: one of the common conventional medical treatments for severe otitis media is to deliberately "rupture" the eardrum. This is called a myringotomy when done by the physician. Spontaneous rupture accomplishes the same thing. If this is so bad (sounds terrible, doesn't it) why is it a medical treatment?

As soon as the drum is open---either by surgical intervention or spontaneous rupture--there is sudden cessation of terrible pain (doesn't sound so bad). It is VERY difficult to prevent an ear drum from healing itself in a week or so IF the eustacian tube is open.

Remember, there is a standard rule in the body: if there is a space, it has to drain and so long as it does, there can be no infection. If it does not drain, there is no way that it CAN avoid becoming infected. This is as true as any biological system can be true.

The space in the middle ear (between the inside of the drum and the upper end of the eustacian tube) HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE OUTSIDE SOMEHOW OR INFECTION WILL OCCUR. It is normally full of air. The vast majority of recurrent middle ear infection occur because of allergic swelling of the lining of the upper respiratory tract and in the child the smallest tube in the area is the eustacian tube. Once the tube is obstructed, the body tries to absorb the air and this creates a vacuum. The vacuum draws serum out of the blood and fills this space. Serum is a perfect culture medium for germs to grow. Once they start to grow, the white blood cells are drawn there to fight the infection. This creates "pus" which then creates pressure inside the drum. This finally results in rupturing the drum if the infection is not controlled before that much pressure builds up. A myringotomy (and spontaneous rupture) works to relieve this pressure and allow healing to occur.

If the eustacian tube is always blocked (by allergic swelling) the eardrum cannot heal (This is why sometimes "tubes" are placed in the drum.).

Obviously, the answer is to get rid of the allergen so the tube will open. In more than 95% of the cases the allergen is dairy. Removal of all traces of dairy will prevent recurrence in 95% of the cases. Surely, THIS is the first thing to do to prevent recurrence.

I would have my child see a Chiropractor during the acute phase. The last person I would subject my child to is an MDor DO.

The one thing we do know about conventional medicine is that it has NO treatment for this OR rational preventive.

The herbs mentioned are safe & should be considered. I am not a good enough herbologist to discuss them but there is a link to this 'site for an herbologist.

I hope this helps clarify this. I add my plea to Dave's about stopping blaming the father for any hearing loss in his child. That is not only unfair, it is totally wrong.

Walt



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So why do antibiotics seem to help so much?

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 08, 1998 at 17:16:16:

In Reply to: Re: eardrum (Options for treating/preventing) posted by Walt Stoll on December 08, 1998 at 12:30:26:

All four members of my immediate family (me included) have had a lot (4 to 12/year) of sinus/ear infections over the years. If they got bad enough, we went to (or just called) our MD and got antibiotics. In nearly all cases, within just a few hours of taking the first dose, we felt much relief from the pain/discomfort/pressure/whatever it was. Of course, some times we have gotten "immune" to particular antibiotics and they did not seem to help at all. After a few days of continuing pain, we'd call to get onto a different antibiotic (more expensive) that worked.

So, I asked my RN wife about what you've been saying recently here about it being known for 10 years or so "that antibiotics don't help otitis media". She disagreed rather strongly with that. The antibiotics sure seem to have helped in our cases. Of course, what we've had is a whole ball of (perhaps viruses?) allergies, sinus swellin/blockages, massive colorful sinus drainage hurting our throats and upsetting our stomaches, pressure building up in our ears, dizziness, pain, etc. etc. So perhaps the antibiotics helped one or more of these "other" things and allowed drainage to occur, secondarily reducing the pressure in the ear, thus "curing" the ear infection. So whether antibiotics "work" and are indicated in these chronic situations may be a matter of semantics. Without the antibiotics, we have simply not gotten better. With them, we have, and rather quickly and noticeably. I doubt it is a placebo effect, since different antibiotics "work" differently. Of course, after the antibiotics bottle got empty, oftentimes we had relapses, sometimes much worse than the original outbreak.

So I'm not personally convinced that the next time I get a sinus/ear infection that I should not request an antibiotic.

Thanks for describing the mechanism of drained/undrained cavities in the head (and I presume elsewhere, but I cannot think offhand of other cavities). This makes a lot of sense, but I guess I don't have it all fitting together quite yet.

Thanks also for mentioning eliminating milk. I'll try that the next time I get a sinus infection. It couldn't hurt :-) I'd hate (Love?) to think that all this pain and suffering and expense and missed school and work time over many years could have been avoided by simply avoiding milk. But that is what you suggest (in 95% of cases).


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Re: So why do antibiotics seem to help so much?

Posted by trish on December 08, 1998 at 18:08:32:

In Reply to: So why do antibiotics seem to help so much? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 08, 1998 at 17:16:16:

Hi, RH Jim!!!

Glad to see you're still haning around enough to ask these probing questions. I am very interested in the answers you'll get...I just wanted to share what I know about the milk. I don't think avoiding it after you get an infection is helpful. What you must do is avoid it to prevent the infections from happening to begin with. I do know of a couple of people who took their kids off of it and, voila! no more ear problems. Dairy just seems to be a problem for so many people. I keep it to aminimum and have felt much better in a lot of small ways - less mucus in general, and certainly less sinus problems.

take care!
trish





Re: They do SEEM to have short term benefit for some but why is that?

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on December 08, 1998 at 18:45:05:

In Reply to: So why do antibiotics seem to help so much? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 08, 1998 at 17:16:16:

You are correct. SOME people do seem to have a reduction in symptoms while the Otitis Media runs it's course. The idea that there is some short term benefit is evident in the literature.

"Otitis media with effusion usually resolves spontaneously. The available literature indicates that antibiotic treatment has at most a
short-term effect. Therefore it is not indicated for the treatment of otitis media with effusion."
Grote JJ; Antibiotics in otitis media with effusion. Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd 1997;141(2):76-7 / Medline ID: 97166702

However, this would only be in people who have a bacterial origin of their infection. There are other reasons for the inflammation and mucus production that gets trapped beyond the eustachian tube.

"A misconception is that otitis media is a primary disease entity; more accurately it is a complication of other childhood
complaints such as the common cold, sinusitis, and sore throats."
Ballantyne J. The ear in paediatric practice. Practitioner 1985; 229(1407):809-12 / Medline ID: 86067665

One of the real solutions to getting to the cause of the problem is to further explore the functioning of the eustachian tube and how it is influenced by the physical aspects of the body.

"Musculoskeletal eustachian tube dysfunction is an important etiological factor for otitis media. The eustachian tube dysfunction
manifests primarily by poor ventilation from the nasopharynx to the middle ear, by allowing sniff induced negative pressure in
the middle ear."
Todd NW, Feldman CM. Allergic airway disease and otitis media in children. Int J Pediatr Otorhinolaryngol 1985: 10(1):27-35 / Medline ID: 86084755

If we make sure that the general functioning of the eustachian tube is correct then we can go on to look at the different causes of tube inflammation.

"In cases of secretory otitis media it is generally agreed that the usual basic factor is an inflammatory process with functional or
mechanical obstruction of the eustachian tube."
Lehnert T, Acute otitis media in children. Role of antibiotic therapy., Can Fam Physician 1993; 39: 2157-62. / Medline ID: 94034451

Again, the reasons for some peoples symptom reductions revolve around the antibiotics role in possibly helping those who have a bacterial infection. Another reason seems to be just that the psychological value of consulting a professional and consuming a substance that we have been told will help has the ability to make us feel better.

"Antibiotic treatment of otitis media is no more effective than placebo, and increases the risks of reoccurrence."
Cantekin EI. Antibiotics to prevent acute otitis media and to treat otitis media with effusion. JAMA 1994; 272(3):203-4 / Medline ID: 94293436

That is certainly not to say that the pain is all "in our head" but that the same way you feel better when your mom rubs your chest is similar to taking something that we think will help. ESPECIALLY in children. I'm sure we have all known the power of a band-aid on a boo boo. Fortunately band-aids do not contribute to more boo boos and do not create stronger and more virulent boo boos. For children who's infection is bacterial related the symptom reduction may well be due to the antibiotic.

The evidence we have, which does comparisons of antibiotic treatment versus placebo or nothing at all, has repeatedly shown there to not be a benefit and in many cases there seems to be harm. Suprising as it is!!!!!!!!!

"Patient recovery from otitis media seemed not to be influenced by either the type of antibiotic given, or the period of time for
which it was given, except that the rates of recovery were better in patient's of all age groups who did not receive any antibiotic
therapy at all."
Froom J, Culpepper L, Grob P, et al, Diagnosis and antibiotic treatment of acute otitis media: report from international primary care network, BMJ 1990; 300(6724):582-6 /
Medline ID: 90212921

Anytime the scientific and resear



Re: So why do antibiotics seem to help so much?

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 08, 1998 at 18:46:26:

In Reply to: So why do antibiotics seem to help so much? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 08, 1998 at 17:16:16:

Hi, RocketHealer Jim.

Somehow, it salves my soul to know that even someone as perceptive as you can be taken in with this. I certainly believed it too for the first 13 years I was in practice.

WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE EXPECT FROM A "MIRACLE DRUG"?

The world has known for more than 50 years that the average positive placebo effect (in any double-blind study) was more than 30%. However, it has only been known for 5 years that: If the doc knows what s/he is giving (and believes in it) and the patient knows what s/he is getting (and knows the doc believes in it) the positive placebo effect is more than 70%. This, of course is the opposite of the double-blind study. Children are even more suggestable than adults. There is nothing wrong with the placebo effect. It is proof of the marvelous healing power of the mindbody moiety. What do you think of that?

We now know that antibiotics make no difference in the resolution of this condition no matter what anyone wants to believe about it. At least no more than a lactose pill would.

None of us really want to know that but we have to face it.
Since there is no positive benefit, the only possible effect has to be negative (side effects, loss of normal colonic bacteria--thus making LGS worse and increasing the leakiness that caused the food hypersensitivities--BY FAR THE MOST COMMON CAUSE OF RECURRENT EAR INFECTIONS).

I shudder to think that I treated all of MY kids the way I was taught in medical school. It is hard for me to even think of it now but they would have been better off if they never did anything I asked them to do (medically).
One of the first things we are taught in medical school is that 95% of all conditions will get better on their own if we do nothing. If we give "something" we get the credit for 100% that get well. Pretty good racket don't you think?

Why do you think there is the Hippocratic Oath? The first one on the list is: "First, do no harm!" Even back then the wise physician knew that Mother Nature did almost all of the healing. Right now, more than 35% of all deaths are caused by the doctor's treatment. It seems that our powerful drugs have mainly made it possible to hurt more people.

How many docs can resist playing that game? The public is so indoctrinated that, if I don't give them "something" they will go down the street to the doc who will. This is not all the doc's fault.

There are specific conditions, caused by specific bacteria, that can be benefitted by taking very specific antibiotics. To be sure what to use, a culture has to be taken & the correct antibiotic needs to be selected. That is how this is taught and is the only way it was ever intended to be done.

However, most docs are lazy. Besides, they can make a lot more money just writing a prescription for "anything" to satisfy the patient. The pharmaceutical companies played along with this by developing antibiotics that would kill almost any kind of bacteria. That way the doc didn't even have to think. He really knew, down inside, that it didn't make that much difference anyhow in the vast majority of cases. Unfortunately, that guaranteed that we would end up in the antibiotic fix we now find ourselves. Besides, they now would kill our normal germs at least as efficiently as any possible disease germ that might be present.

Besides, at least 90% of all upper respiratory infections are caused by viruses. Everyone knows (OR SHOULD) that we have no antibiotics that treat viruses.

I could go on for days but I will not. Suffice it to say that it is past time for the public to think for themselves and go directly to the research. Physicians make too much money peddling antibiotics to be the least bit reasonable about starting to use them responsibly.

An enlightened & aware public is its own protection.

Walt




Re: What is that they say about great minds? he he he

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on December 08, 1998 at 18:53:44:

Since mine was submitted one minute and seventeen seconds before yours then I am going to take all the credit for this one. LOL.

I am amazed everyday by your transformation from a robot to a healer. A true doctor.

Namaste'



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