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Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 31, 2004 at 06:33:19:

Thanks, Kat.

You are right on with your understanding of this increasingly common condition.

It would not take much to install a crude Faraday cage around her bed. Remember it is the exposure times the person's sensitivity times the TIME she is exposed that adds up to her total load. See the electromagnetic smog and the MCS archives at askwaltstollmd.com

Let us know what you learn.

Walt


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Miller"
To:
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [S-A] [SymphonicHealth] Electrical Pollution


> I know that my daughter had major issues with
> electricity (was electromagnetically sensitive) when
> she was dealing with environmental illness. One
> experience she had that was amazing was, when she was
> seeing an environmental MD (before she found the right
> kind of help) he took her into his electrical
> magnetically shielded (EMS) room, and when he shut the
> door she at first was scared...she felt different and
> didn't know why. Then she realized she didn't have a
> headache, there was no noise from electricity running
> through her head. The EMS can make a huge difference
> for those sensitive. Copper around the perimeter of a
> room will block EMF waves from getting through.
>
> She was planning on shielding her room at one point,
> but since she has had her issues with EI and
> electromagnetic sensitivity fixed, she hasn't worried
> about it.
>
> One way a person can tell if they are
> electromagnetically sensitive is that they find
> themselves getting fatigued sitting in front of a
> computer screen. The EMF coming off the computer will
> fatigue one who is sensitive very quickly. I've seen
> this a number of times in people who needed EMF fixed.
>
> I also worry that people who have sensitivity to EMF
> are not far off from EI. My daughter had her
> culminating event that triggered EI three days after
> her work desk was moved next to a wall that had a
> transformer on the other side. One interesting side
> effect she had with the EMF sensitivity is that she
> would drain batteries - all through high school every
> three months we had to put a new battery in her
> calculator (her brother with the same calculator never
> needed new batteries). She also had to replace
> batteries in her pager at work every couple of weeks
> (unheard of by everyone else there, she said that
> going to the secretaries and asking for batteries as
> often as she was, she got really funny looks - and she
> was going to different ones each time so each only saw
> her a small percentage of the times she was replacing
> batteries).
>
> Kat
>
>



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 07:59:49:

In Reply to: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 31, 2004 at 06:33:19:

Hi Dr. Walt:

Would electromagnetic smog cause a person's hair to be "electrified"? I have a lot of electricity in my hair. When I brush it, it follows the brush when the brush is pulled away from the head. Even though the hair is well conditioned, it still retains this fly-away ability. The static electricity level seems too high, higher than other women's.

Also, When I push my hair away from my face while wearing leather gloves, the hair follows the glove as I pull my hand away. I even manage to "shock" people at work when I hand them something and accidentally make contact with their skin. They complain about this. The "shock" can even be heard. It makes a snappy pop sound.

The batteries in my wireless computer mouse have to be replaced every 2 to 3 weeks. (that's an annoyance). I wonder if being in constant hand contact with the mouse somehow drains the batteries. Any thoughts?




Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by FW [613.760] on January 31, 2004 at 08:58:42:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 07:59:49:

It's your dynamic personality, Philly. You seem to put a charge in everything you do.

I seem to have the same problem. If the two of us ever got together there might be quite the explosion.



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 09:35:09:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by FW [613.760] on January 31, 2004 at 08:58:42:

Hi FW:

So you have the same problem with electric hair and zapping whatever you touch? The whole process is intriguing. And, why are some more affected than others? Surely, there is an answer to this query!

..."If the two of us ever got together there might be quite the explosion."

Why, FW, I'm thinking more along the lines of Thermonuclear Explosion, maybe even "Exploding Giant"!




Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by FW [613.760] on January 31, 2004 at 09:55:17:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 09:35:09:

I've often feared that one of these shocks is going to cause me to suffer spontaneous combustion. I get shocks constantly. Every time I flick on a light switch, touch my computer, or feel the temperature of cold running water.

I get to leave winter for awhile soon, so maybe I'll get a reprieve (though I somtimes get them in warm weather, too). Coming this Friday I'm on my way to Hawaii for 8 days. Yehaa!

Well, maybe if we got together, we'd go out in a blaze of glory...



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 10:08:06:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by FW [613.760] on January 31, 2004 at 09:55:17:

Hi FW:

Spontaneous combustion is another topic of interest. It would be a good idea to have a board discussion on this puzzling "illness".

..."Well, maybe if we got together, we'd go out in a blaze of glory..."

Yes but then, like the Phoenix, we would rise again to an encore even more glorious than the first.

By the way, have fun in warm, balmy Hawaii while the rest of us here are doomed to struggle in our dismal polar prisons:-)



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by Matylda [30.18] on January 31, 2004 at 17:54:23:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 10:08:06:


I also got all above occurencies and more. Sametimes, if my husband grubs my hand, I give him a very strong shock, strong enough to scare me.
We moved to our present place in 1991. I didn't have any similar things happend before that.
I investigated a little and found out that just under our apartment is a huge transformer. My habby is trying to calm me` down. He fully believes that the special shield ( it should be there) is good enough, and it is not reason to think that it could be installed not properly. Like he put it: there are regulations in constraction industry.
Sooner or later I am going to get it check by a profesional.
8 years ago I spent a lot a time trying to get it check, but I had such a hard time to find someone qualify (I found the right/licenced man in Ottawa) and my
hubby was against it. I gave up.
Walt, thanks for post about such an important issue.

I forgot to mention that the building was new at the time we moved in. And my health started going down the hill, to the point of complete mess, difficult to deal with.

Something to think about- that for sure.

Matylda


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Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by FW [613.760] on January 31, 2004 at 22:57:02:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 10:08:06:

Hey, it just so happens I'll be in Phoenix for a training seminar around the beginning of April. If you can make it, I'm sure it will be glorious.

As far as Hawaii goes, well, I hate to miss out on a week of winter. It was minus 5 in Chicago this morning. What a beautiful day. But there is work for me to do on the big island, so someone must go. Alas, being the brave soul that I am, I volunteered for this treacherous duty. Perhaps I can find a walk in freezer to remember you by; if not, I'll just have to soak in the ocean...

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Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? (functional anatomy)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 01, 2004 at 06:38:11:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 10:08:06:

Hi, Phillylady.

In my opinion this "electrification phenomenon" is unrelated to the "spontaneous combustion" one.

The apparent cause of spontaneous combustion is:

Obese diabetics are far and away the most common people to suffer this; alcoholism increases the risk. All of these conditions have a much higher incidence of free radical pathology. Free radicals are a "cascade" (chain reaction)phenomenon that is only stopped by our antioxident function.

Were it not for our endogenous and exogenous antioxident function, nipping this continuous mechanism in the bud, we ALL would spontaneously combust. This is a natural consequence of our living in (and being dependent upon) an oxygen atmosphere.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 01, 2004 at 21:32:48:

In Reply to: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on January 31, 2004 at 06:33:19:

Hi Everyone

I would like some advice please.

I find that I get fatigued sitting in front of a computer screen, and it doesn't take much time before I experience this.
I spend minimal time on the computer at home(well, except at work, where i don't have a choice). So,instead of reading articles on the net which can take some time, I am now printing them off and reading them away from the computer, to minimize that zapped energy drain I am experiencing.

But sometimes when I am researching a subject of interest online, it can take some time to find the right article, and then I get that energy drain.

What can I do to REDUCE the effects of fatigue experienced on the computer?
I do have an anti glare screen, but any other ideas?>

**~ ZAPPED GIRL ~**



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Waltt Stoll [9.8] on February 02, 2004 at 07:51:14:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 01, 2004 at 21:32:48:

Hi, Maria.

We all have different tolerances to electromagnetic smog.

Inexpensive elecromagnetic shields (for computers) have been available for years.

Walt



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Happygal [11.8] on February 02, 2004 at 08:37:27:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Waltt Stoll [9.8] on February 02, 2004 at 07:51:14:

Hi Maria,

What's your posture like when you sit there? That might have something to do with your fatigue. I'm putting a self-help article about ergonomics on my new website. I'll send you a notice when the new site is ready (a couple of weeks, I think) and you can read the article and check to be sure you have your computer work station set up properly.

Before you buy a computer radiation screen, check it out. I went to the store to buy one and found them very expensive. When I asked the clerk about them, he told me the monitors had all been changed so that they no longer emit radiation and the screens are no longer needed. I don't know who to believe but I found the expense so high that I was glad to go along with what the clerk said.

Best wishes,
Jan




Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair??

Posted by Vince F [51.37] on February 02, 2004 at 11:40:42:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: Archive. / Electric Hair?? posted by PhillyLady [175.41] on January 31, 2004 at 09:35:09:

PL, the sparks may be from the clothes and shoes you wear,
type of carpet or upholstery you walk or sit on and how
cold and dry the air is.

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Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 03, 2004 at 02:09:15:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Happygal [11.8] on February 02, 2004 at 08:37:27:

Thanks, happygal.

My posture is fine when I am sitting at the computer.
The fatigue starts to happen quite quick and after just a short time of being on the computer.




Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Happygal [11.384] on February 04, 2004 at 05:41:17:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 03, 2004 at 02:09:15:

Hi Miss Bliss,

Interesting. Let me know if the radiation shield helps.

If it doesn't, keep looking into how you might be tightening up your muscles or body when you sit in front of the computer. Even something like eye strain can probably cause instant fatigue if you go into some kind of muscular "holding pattern" when you sit down at the computer.

The tendency towards bracing or tightening muscles can get very subtle, I am learning. I used to get backaches and feel fatigued when I'd go into the kitchen. What do you supposed caused that? I used self-awareness to discover that I was insecure about my cooking skill or feeling rushed about preparing food. The backaches ended when I taught myself to cook better and to relax while I prepare food.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Jan



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Maria bliss [4.4] on February 05, 2004 at 00:31:55:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Happygal [11.384] on February 04, 2004 at 05:41:17:

Thanks again, H.G.

I am curious about your comment that you discovered the reason through self-awareness. Please elaborate. Sounds interesting.

I notice that only sometimes do I get that fatigue feeling, and I think it's also when I have had a rather hard day, such as lack of sleep, stress or whatever.

The last few days I have not had that fatigue at all. Then again, I haven't had much time to be on the computer to compare it too.

**~ PINK GIRL ~**



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Happygal [11.384] on February 06, 2004 at 05:29:31:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Maria bliss [4.4] on February 05, 2004 at 00:31:55:

Hi Miss Bliss,

This health stuff is so challenging! Self-awareness ..... keeping your attention on your body. I discovered by keeping awareness on my body that almost every time I felt suddenly fatigued, it was because my muscles have tightened up for some reason. So now whenever I suddenly feel fatigued, I start looking for why I'm tight and if it's a certain body part that I'm clenching, or if it's global tightness (sometimes just taking B complex will relax my whole body).

Rats! The insomnia is back again (it's now 4:25 a.m.) and so I'm back at trying to figure out why. Oh, it was wonderful to feel so good for those couple of weeks. Well, I was emotionally stressed earlier this week and that probably caused it. I feel like I'm wobbling right on the edge of my cliff with this and am really challenged trying to figure out what is stressing my body and keeping me on the edge of FOF all the time.

I think I'll try a liver flush next. Have you done one?

By the way, I sent you an e-mail a day or two ago, did you get it? I sent it to both your addresses.

Best wishes,
Jan



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 07, 2004 at 05:41:00:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Happygal [11.384] on February 06, 2004 at 05:29:31:

Thanks, Happygal.

I too have been experiencing insomnia the last week as well. I have been getting up early for work, and it never fails that when I have to get up early, my body wants to wake up many hours before the appointed time. I remember Walt saying it's most likely my subconscious afraid of oversleeping or something along those lines.
It made sense though, not that it sorted it out, mind you.

I was ttrying to figure out what you can do about the insomnia, or trying to think of something you haven't thought of yet.
I thought about maybe intense exercise, or rebounding (don't know if that effects sleep though or not)
Are you a worrier, and maybe your subconscious is waking you up with these worries that are sitting just below the surface? Just guessing right now.

So you don't have a problem falling off to sleep, just staying asleep, right?
It may also just be a healing hiccup right now, as your body adjusts to it's new sleeping pattern, so don't lose heart.

P.S.I did receive both of your emails. Thanks. Just trying to make a choice on that right now, but my response will be on it's way soon.

P.P.S Have you ever tried crystals for healing or for help with insomnia? I am finding crystals quite powerful with healing.

**~ BLISS ~**



Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt).

Posted by Happygal [11.384] on February 07, 2004 at 07:55:48:

In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetic smog example: ("Zapped" by the Computer - Walt). posted by Maria Bliss [4.4] on February 07, 2004 at 05:41:00:

Thanks, Maria Bliss.

My body settled down again yesterday and I slept well last night. It was the emotional upset that reactivated my sympathetic nervous system. Now I feel like I'm in parasympathetic mode again -- feels so good! I have no doubt my body is making progress and I think it's just a matter of continuing to do the 3LS.

I received your e-mail and will wait to hear more from you. Thanks.

Best wishes,
Jan


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