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Walt,
When you told me that I might be experiencing a current of injury in my mouth I was very interested because I knew nothing of this before. So I googled, and put some bits and bobs together on current of injury, and was wondering if you would tell me if I'm understanding it correctly?
Also, is this the same current that was discussed in terms of silver and gold being in the same mouth, or is that another kind of current? If so, what is that current called? My findings on current of injury are below.
Thanks,
gabriella
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Although scientifically unproven at the time, the Chinese knew clinically that stimulation of specific points had reproducible results in controlling pain and stimulating healing. Their concept of healing revolved around balancing the forces of yin and yang.
Through the use of acupuncture, practitioners were able to sedate or stimulate Chi or energy within the meridian system. The existence of Chi in the form of electrical energy was scientifically documented by Robert O. Becker, M.D.
He also discovered that the meridians had the electrical characteristics of transmission lines, that they transmit signals of injury by direct current and acupuncture points produce direct current potentials.
We now know the body has a micro-current "circulatory system" that provides intercellular communication through electromagnetic signaling.
The relationship between direct current (DC) electricity and cellular growth has become better understood during the later half of the 20th century. It has been shown that living tissues naturally possess direct current voltage gradients that regulate, at least in part, the wound healing process. Following tissue damage, a "current of injury" is generated that is thought to trigger biological repair*. This current of injury has been extensively documented in scientific studies.
It is believed that this current of injury is instrumental in ensuring the necessary cells are drawn to the wound location at the appropriate times during the various stages of wound healing.
Our bodies present a positive polarity along the central axis and a negative polarity in the peripheral structures. This polarity is reversed in hypnosis, during anesthesia and following an injury which creates a positive potential at the site of trauma and this polarity reversal sets up a current of injury that initiates and signals the beginning of tissue repair and regeneration. This current of injury is conducted by means of direct micro-current signals past along the Schwann and Glial cell sheaths that surround the neurons.
The current is a polarized flow of ionic current is produced by the injury and this current is electrogenically driven by the Na(+)-dependent, internally positive transcutaneous voltage of the intact skin.
Tissues can be thought of as biologic batteries in our body. An electrical voltage potential difference exists in the body that is created by a separation of oppositely charged ions. The electrical energy of this biologic battery can be tapped once its closed. The closed circuit permits the flow of electricity between oppositely charged areas.
The activation of these biological semiconductor circuits following muscle activity and injuries both of which cause a build-up of positively charged ions.
It appears that repair occurs after an injury in response to signals that emanate from this electrical system this is current-of-injury. It has been suggested that the current of injury has become less efficient with evolution; therefore. Many animals have a greater capacity for self-healing than do humans. For example the starfish who is able to generate a new limb after injury.
In Reply to: To Walt: On current of injury posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 09, 2005 at 03:37:28:
Thanks, Gabriella.
You are on the right track. Welcome to a larger world!
The currents in the mouth caused by dissimlar metals influence this system but go beyond it to being a component of electromagnetic smog which is located in a very delicate part of your bodymind. See the energy healing archives for more references.
Let us know what you learn. Those in the know say that the 21st century will be the century of electromagnetic medicine as the 20th was the physiological/chemical century.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 10, 2005 at 06:56:08:
Thanks Walt, that's good to know that I'm understanding it correctly. If I indeed have electromagnetic smog in my mouth that is a real concern as it's so close to the brain, yikes!
I'll definitely look into the energy healing archives and certainly will share with you and the board what I've learned. Electromagnetic activity has always been a latent but very strong interest of mine, so I'm anxious to delve into it. I have a feeling this information will really clarify how the body and mind work together. I'm also interested in metaphysics so I think this ties in nicely.
gabriella
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 10, 2005 at 13:39:01:
Also, Walt, on this same topic I posted this in another thread. I just put it up here in case you don't get back there:
Wow, thank you so much Walt, you just answered another question I was about to ask you!!! I have been feeling so nervous since this gold has been installed in my mouth. I think it may be having an effect on my CNS, as I am a very sensitive person, and even flourescent lights and things like that really impact me.
I looked up the other things you mentioned too and came to the conclusion that there could possibly be several things happening to me at once:
certain organs and acupuncture meridians might be affected
there might be toxicities or reactions to restorative materials
there might be electromagnetic interactions among restorative materials (silver and gold)
there might be a current of injury
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Thanks so much for the ideas and information,
gabriella
In Reply to: PS posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 10, 2005 at 13:44:09:
Have you seen the tooth-organ charts? There are a few online, and I've posted this one a couple of times. I think Dr. Stoll archived it, but here it is at your fingertips.
http://www.cnri.edu/DrWilson/Dentalinfo/toothorganchart.htm
Here's another website with a lot of holistic dentistry info.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
I hope you are doing OK and can find some good info and even better, relief!
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 11, 2005 at 00:57:38:
Hi Nutmeg,
Thanks a bunch, you're a sweetheart! Yes, I did see this chart in that other thread, and I said then that I thought it was really good and thanked you for posting it. Little did I know that about a week later I would need it. Even though I saved it then I forgot to look at it, so thanks for posting it tonight. I don't know how the teeth are numbered, do they start in the back on the top left or is it the right?
I really like what the chart had to say about the meanings of the organs and such, it's very much like Louise Hay's chart in Heal Your Life, very helpful. I also really appreciate your other link, that looks great. I will dig into it next week, as I have a huge assignment coming up and will be in crunch mode until next Tuesday.
The strange thing is because of this tooth I am learning a lot, Nutmeg, a lot of things that I should have learned a long time ago. Better late than never, right? I think Bio-energy is the wave of the future, and I am very excited about it, are you?
Thanks, I am going to continue seeking out information on my golden tooth, and get to the bottom of it once and for all, but in the process, hopefully I'll be able to apply some information to my health in general. This tooth is heavy, and I can still taste/feel the gold and the vibratory quality to it. Howver, I'm not quite as irritable as I was the first few days which is a relief, I thought I was going to kill someone!
Thanks again for your help and concern,
gabs
I hope you are feeling ok these days as well, especially with your physical therapy and your recovery from your accident.
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 10, 2005 at 13:39:01:
Thanks, Gabriella.
Consider Richard Gerber, MD's classic "Vibrational Medicine" that ties it all together. Your library can find you a copy to borrow.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 11, 2005 at 02:51:58:
Hi Gabs,
I remembered someone had liked that chart, but I'd forgotten who. I'm glad it was useful to you...definitely a keeper. I have a copy printed out in color in my personal medical info file. One of Dr. Sherry Rogers' books has a tooth chart as well. I haven't looked in a while, but it may be somewhat different. They all seem to vary a little, but similar.
Tooth count starts in the upper right quadrant. Tooth #1 is the wisdom tooth, so if yours are gone, remember to skip those. If you get lost (as I often do), just go to the midline and count backwards in each quadrant.
I love Louise Hay and refer to her chart on emotions, health, and metaphysical relationship all the time. We also have her little blue book that is just the chart & supporting materials. Very cool stuff. I have found a lot of it to be true for me, but not all.
I haven't researched bio-energy medicine specifically, but I have had many different kinds of treatments and sessions that I'm sure qualify in a general sense. Many of them have been very powerful and moving experiences, spiritually, emotionally, and physically, and they are making a huge difference in my overall recovery. I think there is also a lot of synergy when these types of treatments are used in combination with serious wellness, emotional release work, and the more mainstream alternative medicine like massage, chiropractic, homeopathy, appropriate supplements, etc., and maybe even supportive conventional medicine where necessary. The body really does have amazing capacity to heal itself, when we are smart enough and willing enough to let it happen.
I've been in a major pain flare for a few months now, even before the accident. My massage therapy and chiropractic treatments now seem to buy me 4-5 days of pain reduction and improved function instead of just 1-2 like they used to, so that is a big plus. I've also had some spiritual healing experiences which have been very intense and beneficial, and I sometimes get a week of pain reduction/improved function from those. I'm also working on some other alternative things with my 2 doctors, and that has some promise too. One day soon I know I will hit on the right combination and I will be back in intense healing mode. Like with you, the process has been fascinating and a wonderful learning experience.
Thanks so much for your good wishes. Good luck with your big assignment. I'm sure you will dive in and make your mark :)
Take care.
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 11, 2005 at 06:58:54:
Thanks very much Walt, I'll definitely check it out and let you know my thoughts. I love it when the pieces of the puzzle start fitting together.
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 11, 2005 at 13:47:36:
Hi Nutmeg, thanks, will write a response to this nice post later, as I could only drop in briefly right now.
gabs
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 11, 2005 at 06:58:54:
Walt,
I haven’t yet read the book you suggested but I just had to share some thoughts. The other day when you told me about the current of injury and the possible electromagnetic reaction in my mouth I started researching and the light bulb came on.
One author said that chi and cellular communication were electrical and with that everything made sense to me in a flash i.e. the meridian and acupuncture system, healing cells, and most of all the electrical and electromagnetic power that eminates from our brain. No wonder we can affect changes in our body just by concentrating. We’re concentrating electricity, which has the capacity to make very concrete and significant changes. Now it all makes sense to me.
And now I can even understand telepathy and non verbal communication among people that aren’t even in the same room.
Not to be too cute, but I really am ‘energized’ by all of this. Perhaps I’m naïve, perhaps I’m a late bloomer, but now I can really see the potential to affect ones bodymind. It’s very exciting. Thanks for being there.
gabriella
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 11, 2005 at 13:47:36:
Hi Nutmeg,
Thanks for the information on the tooth, the numbering system does make sense.
I have always been amazed at how much effort you've extended in the way of self imrovement and how much information and knowledge you have. I've said it before on more than one occasion.
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"...Many of them have been very powerful and moving experiences, spiritually, emotionally, and physically..."
Isn't it amazing how the body, mind, and soul are so inseperable?
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"I think there is also a lot of synergy when these types of treatments are used in combination with serious wellness, emotional release work, and the more mainstream alternative medicine"
Yes there's synergy because everything in the body is so interconnected, that there is bound to be overlap and alignment from the various treatments. Thank goodness! I know when I've worked on one part of myself another cries out and says, "hey, what about me, isn't it my turn yet?"
Have you ever tried rolfing, I don't remember?
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"The body really does have amazing capacity to heal itself, when we are smart enough and willing enough to let it happen."
Yes, very well put and so true. The key for me is understanding how it's working, then I have more will power.
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I'm so glad to hear that you're making progress both on a physical and spiritual/knowledge level. Keep up the great work.
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"One day soon I know I will hit on the right combination and I will be back in intense healing mode."
Please let me know when that time comes and what that combination is.
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Thanks for another stimulating and supportive exchange Nutmeg, and thanks very much for your encouragement on my project and my particular 'approach', you hit the nail on the head!
Continued happy healing and learning,
gabs
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by gabriella [87.890] on April 12, 2005 at 00:36:56:
Thanks, Gabriella!
Your enthusiasm reminds me of when I had my same awakening about 30 years ago.
Welcome to a wider world.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: To Walt: On current of injury (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 12, 2005 at 14:31:45:
Thank you Walt. I really appreciate your sentiments, and if I had just the slightest amount of the enthusiasm that you do, I'd be in great shape. The world does feel wider, as it makes much more sense now. How appropriate and coincidental that I am literally 'reborn' on my real birthday! This is one I will never forget.
Namaste,
gabriella
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by gabriella [87.890] on April 12, 2005 at 01:01:24:
Hi Gabs,
Thanks for your thoughts...I think we are discovering a lot of the same kinds of things these days. Knowledge really is power. It's very rewarding when everything comes together and we finally get it! I've spent the last 2-3 years making my way to and along my own spiritual path, and it has made all the difference in my attitude, my healing, and my feelings of self-worth which were at the root of everything. I finally learned that it's the journey that is important and what we do with what we have experienced and learned in our lives. Wow, what an awakening!
Rolfing, yes, I feel like the Rolfing queen! I've had 22 sessions--two complete series of 10, plus one more in each for good measure. He basically spent an entire extra session on my neck and upper back both times. Have not had any for a year or more, but I have a feeling there is more in my future. It helps for a few weeks, but then I slide back to where I was. Still looking for some root causes to correct before I return for more Rolfing, since I don't think they are all out in the open yet. It's so expensive, but at least I think my insurance will cover it as massage now.
Take care and good luck to both of us! I'm so glad you are making such great progress.
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 13, 2005 at 12:46:32:
Hi Nutmeg,
Sorry, I didn't see this post until today. That's wonderful that we're discovering the same things at the same time, very exciting indeed. I know we both like What the Bleep...but it's interesting I think this information is like a web and when one starts looking in one area, if they're serious and/or really interested, they're bound to find themselves, like you, exploring various facets.
"I finally learned that it's the journey that is important and what we do with what we have experienced and learned in our lives."
Yes, I totally agree, you said it perfectly. And I too learned this little by little over time but it didn't really become clear until recently.
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Thanks for the info on Rolfing!
"Still looking for some root causes to correct before I return for more Rolfing, since I don't think they are all out in the open yet."
I hear ya. I don't know if this will be applicable but I've been having a conversation with thessa and she mentioned that NAET was incredibly effective in undoing the emotional blockages that didn't go away with other modalities. I left you the link below.
"Take care and good luck to both of us! I'm so glad you are making such great progress."
Thanks so much Nutmeg, I return the sentiments.
Blessings,
gabs
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 14, 2005 at 12:56:50:
Hi again, gabs,
Thanks a bunch for the NAET link. I did catch part of that discussion you had with thessa (imagine that...what a coincidence ;-) and it occurred to me that that was one thing I hadn't tried yet. I peeked at the link real quick and saw some mention of blocked meridians and chi flow. I'm sure that is an issue with me. My reflexologist works on my meridians a bit, but there is a limit to what she can do. I've been a little chicken to seek out acupuncture, but there is a woman I know who is doing that now, so I may work up my nerve to see her. There is also a NAET practitioner here, although I always thought that she works primarily with allergies. I could be wrong, and I can certainly call to ask because I know them. She's the sister of my former chiropractor--she shares her office.
Thanks for all the ideas. There is no end to hope!
Take care,
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 14, 2005 at 13:20:12:
Hi Nutmeg,
You're very welcome. I'm glad to hear I could offer up something that you have considered but haven't yet tried.
I think many/most ailments stem back to blocked meridians.
If it were me I would contact the NAET practitioner. My mother, who is deathly afraid of pain and invasive techniques and doctors in general, has gone on and off to acupuncture. She says the needles are very thin and there is a mild almost tickling sensation but no pain whatsoever.
"although I always thought that she works primarily with allergies"
I get the impression it's all about unblocking and balancing one's energy and that different techniques are used. If it's appropriate, they also introduce some behavior modification to undo certain negative associations. Check into it and let me know what you find.
"There is no end to hope!"
That's beautiful!
gabs
In Reply to: Re: PS--gabs... posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 14, 2005 at 13:39:35:
Nutmeg, I forgot to mention this. Now I'm guess here, so bare with me, but if our body is running on it's own electricity, i.e. electrical currents running among cells and along the meridians, then the needles might be a conductor or a manipulator of that electricity just by virtue of being metal. Therefore, the puncture itself is a very minimal part of the equation and consequentially painless.
gabs
In Reply to: PS--Nutmeg posted by gabriella [180.890] on April 14, 2005 at 13:47:43:
Hi gabs,
In theory that sounds right, but my previous experience with two different acupuncturists is that it's not painful, at least not for me. Of course fibro means heightened pain sensitivity and all, but I found it pretty intense at times. The first treatments I had were years ago from a western MD who got some additional training. The second practitioner (trained in TCM and acup. at a reputable institution and well-regarded locally) put some needles in some of my more painful areas to help relieve the pain. They were very thin and she used the little tube applicators, but it hurt. She insisted that if they did not hurt, they were not doing their job or they weren't in the right place or not deep enough. I stuck it out, so to speak, for months, but was not a happy camper and eventually dropped her. It was not really effective for me, and quite expensive at something like $80 a visit. Plus she annoyed me because she tried to push a macrobiotic diet on everyone and her house smelled like some weird kind of herbs all the time.
I've done a ton of healing since then, and now I know how to relax during any kind of treatment, so I might give acupuncture another go, but I am reluctant. The practitioner I know combines spiritual/energy work with her acupuncture somehow, so I am very curious about that. The folks I know who have gone to her have been very pleased and said her work is very powerful.
I feel so fortunate to know so many healers and to have so many types of healing modalities available to me without even having to leave town. I'll let you know if/when I work up my nerve to try something new
Thanks again,
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: PS--Nutmeg posted by Nutmeg [86.74] on April 14, 2005 at 14:37:41:
Hi Nutmeg,
Yikes, how awful, thanks for telling me, now I understand better. And fibro must make it so uncomfortable as well. Also, once you have some painful experiences the association is there.
Perhaps this practioner you know will be the answer. Also, I used to get acupressure, which is supposed to be very effective as well, doesn't require needles, and it's supposed to cause similar results.
You are very lucky to have so much around you and I'm sure you will find the best path for you. Please keep me posted!
always,
gabs
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