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Posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

Dear Walt
I am a 62 year old female artist and broke my left humerus just below the head of the bone, about 2 years ago, the bone was not uniting, and it was suggested that I have surgery but I didn't want to go down this route, so I started acupuncture treatment after one year of the bone not mending and this helped and the bone seemed to be begining to unite, unfortunately I fell and broke the bone again!!!! not long after I started the acupuncture treatment. I have continued with acupuncture and chinese herbs which has seemed to produce a union as I have had great improvement with mobility. I had an x-ray yesturday and it shows that the bone has not united but that there seems to be a fibrous union with some small amount of calcium. Although I have gained a good deal of mobility I still have pain, and am concerned that the bone will not unite, can you give any thoughts on this?
Also I have been looking at your site and am interested in the Becker machine and have also read up on the Zapper are these one and the same? and do you feel that either would help at this stage.
As I live in the UK and have asked the medics about the Becker no one has heard of it, would it be available here?



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 20, 2005 at 09:18:52:

In Reply to: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

Becker's trickle charge syatem is available world wide for non-unions like this. You need another opinion.

Walt



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Lois [490.4] on April 21, 2005 at 17:18:44:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 20, 2005 at 09:18:52:

Hello Walt, thanks for your reply.I live in South West London England ,and I am finding it a struggle to locate a practitioner using a Beckers Machine. Is that the same as a micro current therapy/stimulater machine? If I got one do you think I could use it without first seeing a practitioner to set the frequencies? If you know of any practitioners working in London please tell us,Thank you very much.Ps. I have tried all over without success and as you see have not given up! Thanks -Lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 22, 2005 at 09:13:40:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by Lois [490.4] on April 21, 2005 at 17:18:44:

Thanks, Lois.

Yes but it would need to be tuned to bone and placed right at the fracture. I find it hard to believe that this is not standard for non union fractures in the UK but I guess it is possible thay are so far behind. This has been standard treatment for at least 10 years and known for 30.

Walt

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Posted by lois [490.4] on May 08, 2005 at 08:59:01:

In Reply to: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

Hello again Walt, only one microcurrent practitioner in uk.
My acupuncturist in process of evaluating him/her.He suggests nutritional evaluation with a view to enzymes required by body.Also scans for osteoporosis.Not in family and scanned a few years ago as very ok bone density. Lots of dosh to be spent if I follow that route which is an option.So its purchase a mens machine on the net from america time! darren@eastwestmed.com has article on how to choose aimed at medical practitioners who he say would be in need of training so look for company backup. He warns against using too powerful currents and favours computerised machines with potential for subtle settings.He seems to think training is needed. I want to spend wisely; wasted money is one thing but a lost opportunity to mend through ignorance is another. What does Walt think? Any advice? I go scream now!!! Lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 09, 2005 at 06:44:24:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [490.4] on May 08, 2005 at 08:59:01:

Thanks, Lois.

The Becker unit is attached to the skin over the non-union and uses a battery like a flashlighe DC battery for continuous stimulation. SO there is no chance of "overstimulation" with too powerful a current.

Microcurrent is really a different breed of cat. It is not continually applied (24 hours a day) and is used for a very different result.

I think I archived a lot of information about microcurrent therapy under energy heqaling a few years ago.

Walt



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by lois [172.4] on May 09, 2005 at 16:12:33:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 09, 2005 at 06:44:24:

Thanks Walt, sounds easy and at same time there are no suppliers in uk so I have to order from america. So is a Beckers unit as you describe sold under that name?Is something like the http:www.ycyhealth.
com/products/Tensand//EMS/SuperStim.shtml, machine what we are talking about?
I get history under Becker but no machine so far advertised. Often machines like my example can only go to practitioners too! Arg.Regards.Lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 10, 2005 at 09:10:42:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on May 09, 2005 at 16:12:33:

Sorry, Lois.

Couldn't get that address to work. I would need to see it.

Walt

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Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by lois [490.4] on May 13, 2005 at 10:35:09:

In Reply to: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

hi again Walt .sorry if address no go .try ycyhealth.com
alpha-stim.com
texas-medical
You say a machine needs to be set to bone.ok so not keen to get one unless it does that How do I get one please?
ww.tens.uk is in England, have a look. however would their machine be ok? I am not a phycisist!nor can I spell it!
I am about to email for data.They say never had a non union before! best regards. lois



Re: non union humeral fracture (Archive in energy healing.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 14, 2005 at 08:59:08:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [490.4] on May 13, 2005 at 10:35:09:

Thanks, Lois.

The ycyhealth.com link does not work but the alphastim.com does. These are not the same technologies as the Becker Unit which is what YOU need. Frankly, I cannot imagine any orthopedist in the world not being familiar with the Becker Machine!

I found one of his early books in my library. Perhaps you can not only understand the science behind this but also get a line on how to contact him about this. So far as I know, this machine has been in standard use in this country for 20 years.

See "The Body Electric" by Robert O. Becker, MD, and Gary Selden. It was published by Quill in 1985.

It does require a prescription, though, although I think that is mainly for insurance purposes. The basic machine should cost less than $200. Normally they are rented to the patient.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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Posted by Lois [172.4] on May 17, 2005 at 07:40:17:

In Reply to: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

Thanks Walt have sent email to Robert Beckers publishers Harper Collins New York.I Keep asking medical institutions in UK with no joy. Lois

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Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by lois [172.4] on May 23, 2005 at 17:55:46:

In Reply to: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on April 19, 2005 at 17:05:58:

Hi Walt-still looking for a mchine. Hows about the one at

www.microace.co.uk ?

I got email from their manager- martin@tens.co.uk saying... you stand a good chance of MicroAce machine helping my problem to repair.It is used very successfully to:a)initiate and b) speedup body repair processes.
You would need to use MicroAce regularly,at least once daily,for a minimum of 6 weeks but you should see a significant improvement within this period.
Would you look at this one for me to see if it is the type I need. Bless you .Lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 24, 2005 at 08:03:00:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [172.4] on May 23, 2005 at 17:55:46:

Thanks,Lois.

This is not the thing although it might help. The unit used in this country is put in place and left run 24 hours a day. It just provides a trickle charge of very low energy DC current.

I continue to be astounded that your specialists are ignorant of this major advance in non-union fractures managment.

Walt



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by lois [490.4] on May 24, 2005 at 18:05:12:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 24, 2005 at 08:03:00:

Hi Walt, I share your disbelief. Can you tell me the Hertz levels and gauss requirements for the trickle charge achine so if I can checkout what I might find.Remember I am a mere woman !
Try:
Jaguar Enterprises and
sotainstruments.com for an interesting knockon read.
The only websites using the Becks name directly.What is going on?
Still keen! regards Lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 25, 2005 at 08:31:11:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [490.4] on May 24, 2005 at 18:05:12:

Lois,

Your contacting Robert Becker, MD directly through his publisher is your best bet now.

I only know of this by having kept up with the research until it became standard therapy in this country about 20 years ago--since I am not a specialist in this area.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by lois [490.4] on May 25, 2005 at 15:50:28:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 25, 2005 at 08:31:11:

Hi walt. robert becker has become a recluse so I dont hold out much hope of a reply.Try jaguarenterprises
and follow on site www.sotainstruments. They supplied becks machines and now are in difficulty. Can you direct me to a hospital/s in America which use this type of treatment routinely for non union fractures so I can contact them. x lois



Re: non union humeral fracture

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 26, 2005 at 07:36:28:

In Reply to: Re: non union humeral fracture posted by lois [490.4] on May 25, 2005 at 15:50:28:

Hi, Lois.

Since this is not my specialty I have not kept up with it. However, I know that the orthopedic department of any medical school would know about it.

Walt

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