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Hello:
Several people have recently posted about being underweight and the frustrations associated with it. I'm wondering if it is possible to transfer fat cells from one person to another.
If organs can be transplanted, why not fat cells? Or, would that be impossible? I know metabolism plays a part in weight, but something tells me that some fat cells are unaffected by metabolism, and that once they establish themselves in the body, manual removal is the only way to get rid of them.
There are some people who just cannot get rid of those extra 5 - 10 pounds. Would not this type of "resistant fat" benefit those who are underweight?
In Reply to: Transferring Fat Cells From One Body to Another: Possible? posted by PhillyLady on June 12, 2003 at 11:10:59:
Organ transplants require a life-long commitment to immune-suppressing anti-rejection drugs. Organ rejection begins the day the one stops taking the drugs. The day they START taking the drugs, they become more prone to illnesses and infections. It's a serious side-effect.
In addition, people who are underweight are usually lacking muscle mass, not bodyfat.
In Reply to: Not really posted by Lincoln on June 12, 2003 at 13:24:37:
Thanks Lincoln:
I was under the impression that underweight people lacked body fat. I did not consider muscle mass.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by PhillyLady on June 12, 2003 at 13:32:26:
Licoln is absolutely right. Underweight people are often referred to as skinny fat. Although I am not underweight by any means, I am/was skinny fat.
I started off at 123 lbs with 29.7% body fat and a size 7. I am now 130 with 28% body fat, at a size 5 and working on it. As I continue to exchange body fat for muscle, I will not only get that body fat percentage way, way down, but will also reduce my weight.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by PhillyLady on June 12, 2003 at 13:32:26:
First off, low bodyweight is not a big health problem. Even anorexic people (an extreme version of underweight) don't have higher morbidity rates. There is considerable evidence that people who are chronically underweight have HIGHER than normal lifespans.
Secondly, additional bodyfat usually has very little aesthetic value. Muscle mass, on the other hand, almost always looks healthy and appealing, for both men and women. (I don't mean the steroid-induced look, I'm refering to muscle mass achieved through normal exercise.) Muscle puts curves in all the right places. Fat does not. It puts lumps in all the wrong places.
Third, most underweight people are really what is called skinny-fat. They lack both bodyfat AND muscle mass. Usually they are more lacking in muscle mass than bodyfat. It's usually only the heavily muscled bodybuilder-types that have ultra-low bodyfat levels. Even runway models have more bodyfat than bodybuilders and athletes do - otherwise their picture-perfect skin would look paper-thin and veiny.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Absolutely Right on June 12, 2003 at 14:03:47:
Hi Absolutely:
How are you reducing your body fat?
Actually, I was hoping to reduce my body fat by just donating it to those who need it, by way of transplantation. But, according to what Lincoln says, thin people do not need the fat. They just need the muscle mass.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Absolutely Right on June 12, 2003 at 14:03:47:
Doesn't muscle weigh more than fat? I would just go by looks. congrats on your progress!
Be well,
Sounder
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by PhillyLady on June 12, 2003 at 15:22:29:
Mostly by weight lifting. I started off with aerobics and that got me down from 148 to 123. But I did not like the way I was looking so I decided to firm up with weights. That is what has made the huge difference. At first the weight gain upset me, but I was getting smaller so I let it go. As my muscle pumps up, my skin is tightening and the cellulite is disappearing! That's after I read that once you have it, you never get rid of it. That's a load of B.S.
I'm 40 and almost looking as good as I did when I was 25. I still have a ways to go, but I know that weight lifting will get me there in about 6 months.
I also drastically changed my diet. I now stick to food that has not been refined or processed (mostly). I eat New Zealand beef, organic chicken, free range eggs and organic vegetables. Sometimes I will eat Food for Life bread (not often) and Quinoa pasta (not often) and some fish - mostly tuna (but, not often). I stay away from grains as much as possible because they pack the fat back on my waist. I have read it is because it spikes your insulin. I stay away from fruit too. I only eat 1-2 pieces per week. This is a fairly new diet, but I lost an inch in my waist in a week so I think it is very effective.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Sounder on June 12, 2003 at 16:16:22:
Yes, I think muscle weighs more that fat, but it is also much more compact. I have a pretty small frame so I should be losing about 3 more inches in my waist (it's 27" now and should be around 23"...I came down from 32" yikes!). I should probably end up at around 120-125 by the time I reach my goal.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Absolutely Right on June 12, 2003 at 18:56:40:
As my muscle pumps up, my skin is tightening and the cellulite is disappearing
Could you describe your workouts (weight, number of reps and sets, frequency of workouts, kinds of exercises). I am more interested in those that you think have affected your cellulite. I want to pass this info to some people.
How long did it take to noticably affect cellulite?
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by R. on June 13, 2003 at 03:30:19:
I started weight lifting about 3 months ago and I am just now starting to do it about 3 times a week. I noticed the cellulite difference first in my legs after about two months.
The main exercises I am doing are walking lunges, leg press and calf raises. I do others, but I don't know the names of those moves.
For my arms and back I am doing free weights and I don't know the names of the moves because someone showed me how to do them without educating me on the names.
For my abs I take a pilates class and other aerobics classes that have abs to them. I do not take pure aerobics anymore as I think it is counterproductive to what I want to accomplish. I do take classes that combine weight lifting, lunges and step aerobics.
What I am working on right now is being more consistent with my exercises. I have to miss a week every month because of womanly issues and then that throws me off. Once I become consistent I know I will notice a quicker, more drastic change. But, I will tell you that my legs improved to where I look like I looked when I was 25.
In Reply to: Transferring Fat Cells From One Body to Another: Possible? posted by PhillyLady on June 12, 2003 at 11:10:59:
Hi - I'm five foot threeish (ok, five foot TWO!) and I weigh 114. My body fat is around 18 or 19%. I work out, have tone...I actually stopped lifting weights because I looked too bulky...
The problem is this for me as far as "underweight" - I am technically ok in terms of weight - my ob/gyn did not want me to lose more weight and did want me to gain four pounds - which I am actually 116 now (thanks to protien drinks and my husbands steak dinners) - What happened with me is this - I was 150 pounds... and 34% fat. Not good for my height. I wasn't "fat" but chunky. Not healthy - very sluggish. I began to work out - first, more cardio..then added machines... When the weight really took off (yes diet changed too , not a 'diet" but a lifestyle change) it was when I started working out with builders (body!) and learned that you lose more and gain more muscle by using free weights. during this time, I became a certified trainer, because I really loved working out and helping others less of than myself. Now, I work very hard at keeping weight ON because I changed my lifestyle and am more high energy - I think I boosted my metabolism as well if that is really possible (is it?) ...
BUT not all thin people are "skinny fat" by any means!
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Absolutely Right on June 12, 2003 at 18:59:48:
One muscle cell weighs about twice as much as one fat cell.
In Reply to: Re: Not really posted by Absolutely Right on June 13, 2003 at 14:37:23:
Thanks, Absolutely.
Walt
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