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Strange Morning Experience

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

First off let me begin with that I am under a LOT of stress right now.
I layed in bed this morning and watched the news, got up, had my morning bm, strained a little like I usually do, and right after that I had these auras in my left eye. No pain. Took a shower, made coffee, came to my pc and was trying to read but the first letter of each word was not there, like a blind spot. I had this a few years ago but it lasted an hr. and was in the far corner of my eye. By the way my period is also due. So I left the pc and sat on my bed. About 5 mins. layter it went away as fast as it came, but I feel a bit shaky, maybe because I got anxious about it. The whole incident lasted about 10 minutes. Could I have stood up too fast after I had the bm??



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:41:57:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

I just spoke to my doctor and he said I may have experienced whats known as an ocular migraine. I see him on the 19th so he will check me out. Is it possible for an ocular migraine to lead to a stroke or another disorder?



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Michele [2079.15] on July 09, 2004 at 09:30:47:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

That is (or sounds like) an occular migraine; which can be stress induced - and maybe has nothing to do with the BM....

If you feel a little "off" in the stomach afterwards, it for sure is.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 10:17:02:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Michele [2079.15] on July 09, 2004 at 09:30:47:

Stomach feels fine, no headache either.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by maryb [516.1077] on July 09, 2004 at 10:37:17:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:41:57:

I get occular migraines, as well, and associate them with both stress &
hormones. They're very disconcerting. Sometimes I get a little nauseated, but
not usually. The first time I had one, I lost my vision in one eye, drove myself
to the ER, & that's when they told me I wasn't having a stroke, just the
migraine. I was very worried at the time, because my mom had had a serious
stroke. They told me the two are not connected, but I'm not sure I'd hang my
hat on that.

I had one last week, which I believe was triggered by a small square of dark
chocolate. Not sure how this would work, because it's believed that caffeine
can help get rid of headaches by shrinking capillaries. But I'm certain there
was a connection. Mine lasted about 30 mins & vanished suddenly. No nausea
that time, but I was shaken by it.

Hope to hear how it goes at the doc's & what you find out.

maryb



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Maz [1200.624] on July 09, 2004 at 10:50:06:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

This is migraine. I suffered with migraine for years and the very first symptom was that whatever I looked at a piece of the picture was missing. What followed was some other visions disturbances (wavey lines) before the actual headache. Sometimes, I never got the other things, just the bit missing, but I always knew what it was. It went away in about half an hour.

Maz



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Maz [1200.624] on July 09, 2004 at 10:52:26:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by maryb [516.1077] on July 09, 2004 at 10:37:17:

In susceptible people, chocolate is one of the things which can induce a migraine attack. Cheese is another one.

Maz

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by coldjam [266.376] on July 09, 2004 at 12:23:51:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

Since you've been so forthcoming, you ought to take this time to consider why you are "straining".You should never have to strain, certainly not as a "usual" thing. Perhaps you should consider adding some fiber( and/or magnesium) to your diet. I am sure as you address the migrane thing, you'll find some ways to improve your diet and lifesyle.Hope you find your answers!

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Michele [6.15] on July 09, 2004 at 13:03:32:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 10:17:02:

An Occular Migraine has no headache, only vision (ie, occular) symptoms as you described.
Many times an upset stomach follows.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 15:21:58:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by maryb [516.1077] on July 09, 2004 at 10:37:17:

I had one last week, which I believe was triggered by a small square of dark
chocolate.

Funny you should say this. I ate quite a bit of chocolate last night about 9PM, it was delicious chocolate my daughter brought back from California. Maybe this could have triggered it.

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by maryb [516.1077] on July 09, 2004 at 15:37:12:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Michele [6.15] on July 09, 2004 at 13:03:32:

Not entirely true. Occular migraines can be accompanied by headache, or not.
Same with the nausea.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Michele [6.15] on July 09, 2004 at 16:37:31:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by maryb [516.1077] on July 09, 2004 at 15:37:12:

I thought I did say that. Sorry if I worded it wrong; I meant that they can or can not have pain.
When I had it I thought it was a stroke! I thought migraines were only painful - and thank God I never had another one nor any other migraine.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Maz [31.36] on July 09, 2004 at 16:49:49:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Michele [6.15] on July 09, 2004 at 16:37:31:

I read somewhere that occular migraine is actually a very mini mini stroke, not enough to cause serious problems. It is associated with that kind of thing though.

Maz



Re: Strange Morning Experience (Dr. Stoll)

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 17:21:45:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

Do you have an answer for Ocular Migraines? I've read they have nothing to do with a stroke, but if the continue, one needs to see an eye doctor. I read it is brief, with no other symptoms, altho a headache can come on. What's your opinion? I hope you are feeling well.

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Re: Strange Morning Experience (Dr. Stoll)

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 17:21:45:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

Do you have an answer for Ocular Migraines? I've read they have nothing to do with a stroke, but if the continue, one needs to see an eye doctor. I read it is brief, with no other symptoms, altho a headache can come on. What's your opinion? I hope you are feeling well.

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Michele [20.15] on July 09, 2004 at 19:09:59:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Maz [31.36] on July 09, 2004 at 16:49:49:

I didn't hear any of that; in fact, quite the opposite - (even on the board)...

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Re: Strange Morning Experience (Emergency?) Archive in eyes.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 10, 2004 at 06:57:51:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

Hi, GB.

See your ophthalmologist at once. Explain your symptoms carefully to the receptionist and she will get you in ASAP. In the meantime avoid any activity that would jar your body.

Let us know what you learn and how you do.

Walt



Re: Strange Morning Experience (Emergency?) Archive in eyes.

Posted by G B [1914.8] on July 10, 2004 at 11:20:42:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience (Emergency?) Archive in eyes. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 10, 2004 at 06:57:51:

I have an eye appt. in a week. This happened to me 3 yrs ago and hasn't happened until now. Can you tell me why tou feel its an emergency? I feel just fine. Nothing happened after that yesterday, no headache, slept well, why the urgency?



Re: Strange Morning Experience (Emergency?) Archive in eyes.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 10, 2004 at 12:38:01:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience (Emergency?) Archive in eyes. posted by G B [1914.8] on July 10, 2004 at 11:20:42:

G.B.

What you experienhced years ago was just a warning and you were lucky to have only temporary symptoms. There are too many very serious and irrevokable problems that can cause your current symptoms. The fact that it happened once before only makes this tims more urgent.

It MAY be nothing but you are flirting with blindness in that eye if it is something. The most common cause of what you are experiencing is a detached retina.

Delay is not something I would take a chance on.

Walt

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Naya [120.14] on July 10, 2004 at 14:55:39:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Maz [1200.624] on July 09, 2004 at 10:50:06:

That's exactly what I was going to say. I've had this happen many times. Sometimes a headache follows the lights, sometimes not.



Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Naya - P.S. [120.14] on July 10, 2004 at 15:03:48:

In Reply to: Re: Strange Morning Experience posted by Naya [120.14] on July 10, 2004 at 14:55:39:

This vision phenomenon is a symptom of migraine and is called scotoma. You can google it. My mother had these attacks for years and both my brother and I have them, though not as badly as she did.

Naya

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Re: Strange Morning Experience

Posted by Naya [120.14] on July 10, 2004 at 15:24:26:

In Reply to: Strange Morning Experience posted by G B [1914.8] on July 09, 2004 at 08:24:36:

Here's a link for migraines. www.upstate.edu/neurology/haas/hpmidx.htm

Are you close to your menstrual cycle. That can bea factor as well.

Naya

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