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Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high?

Posted by R. on February 19, 2003 at 21:58:55:

Is 103.1 F high enough temperature to justify trying to lower it? A friend of mine is having this temp while having weakness in all parts of her body, running nose, headache, and cough (dry). Is this most likely a flu?



Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high?

Posted by Sharon on February 20, 2003 at 01:22:49:

In Reply to: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? posted by R. on February 19, 2003 at 21:58:55:

103.1f is not dangerous for a healthy adult, but bringing it down with an alchol rub (on the back), or even cool water, wouldn't hurt either. Don't panic, but keep watch. Tylenol should bring it down, or asprin if he/she isn't alergic (not for children). Make sure he/she drinks plenty of liquids like water or juice.



Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high?

Posted by
thessa on February 20, 2003 at 04:23:46:

In Reply to: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? posted by R. on February 19, 2003 at 21:58:55:

R., Dr Christopher uses the cold sheet treatment in these cases. Basically you get in a tub of the hottest water you can stand for as long as you can stand (30-45 min), making absolutely sure to drink diaphoretice teas like yarrow, sage, ginger etc throughout the bath. This keeps the fever "wet", which is not a dangerous fever. A dry fever is what kill brain cells. After getting out of the tub, the person is wrapped in an ice cold sheet, or rinses/bathes in an ice cold water. The sheet stays wrapped around the person, who is then put to bed, covered completely, to sweat out the infection. You should be able to find the procedure with a net search.
I have done this several times with my mother in law as part of her cancer treatment, but she never had a fever so I can only point you to the experience of Christopher (and schulze). Their approach is not to try and bring the fever down, but to help the fever do its job of killing bacteria and infection in the body. After it finishes the fever will reduce on its own.
best to you
thessa

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Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high?

Posted by
Lindsey on February 20, 2003 at 09:24:29:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? posted by Sharon on February 20, 2003 at 01:22:49:

I would NOT give a cool bath, as this could make the person shiver which will make the fever go higher. Also, high fevers do not kill brain cells.

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Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 20, 2003 at 13:42:58:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? posted by Sharon on February 20, 2003 at 01:22:49:

Hi, Sharon (& Lindsey)

The proper approach is ROOM TEMPERATURE SPONGES. Never use alcohol or cool water. Remember that for each 1 degree increase in temperature--up to 102 degrees (oral) the immunity increases 10% After that is is worth reducing the temperature but it is not dangerous until at least 105 degrees.

Walt



Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by R. on February 20, 2003 at 21:14:40:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.) posted by Walt Stoll on February 20, 2003 at 13:42:58:

How about temperature in one's armpit? The person I am speaking about takes it there.



Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by EllieK on February 21, 2003 at 09:37:08:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.) posted by R. on February 20, 2003 at 21:14:40:

The adjustment from axillary (armpit) temp to oral is to add 1 degree. So if his/her temp is 103.1 in the armpit, it's equivalent to 104.1 oral.

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Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 2003 at 14:13:55:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.) posted by R. on February 20, 2003 at 21:14:40:

R.

Normally axillary temps are 1 degree lower tnam oral and rectal temps are one degree higher.

Walt

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Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by R. on February 21, 2003 at 19:23:34:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.) posted by Walt Stoll on February 20, 2003 at 13:42:58:

> The proper approach is ROOM TEMPERATURE SPONGES. Never use alcohol or cool water.

Do you mean wet sponges?

What is wrong with using alcohol?

What about vinegar? I've known that a weak solution of vinegar is a good method for bringing down temperature.



Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 22, 2003 at 08:58:15:

In Reply to: Re: Urgent! Is 103.1 F too high? (Archive in fever.) posted by R. on February 21, 2003 at 19:23:34:

Hi, R.

Wet room temperature sponges can be done with sponges, a wash cloth or even spooning the water over the skin with a cupped hand.

ALL medical literature says NO alcohol sponges & no ice or colder than room temperature sponges. Of course that has only been known for about 60 years and it takes a long time for population habits to change if the medical profession does not put much effort into public education.

Forget the vinegar unless it is room temperature.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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