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I've been working my way up to 800 mg of magnesium glycinate/day, & since starting this product, my fibro symptoms have worsened greatly as my bowel movements have increased. For me, it's always the case that the fibro gets worse if my gut gets worse.My food isn't digesting very well right now.
Don't know if this means I'm not tolerating the particular magnesium product, or if this is to be expected when increasing the dose. All I know is, the skin on my back is crawling again & feels like it's on fire at the same time. Guess it's time to back off that magnesium. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
mary
In Reply to: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 28, 2003 at 20:38:38:
Hi Mary, I read recently on a post that if the magesium your taking increases your bowel movements that your not assimulating it properly. Who makes the magnesium your taking? I take a liquid magnesium I purchased from the Vitamen Shoppe.
In Reply to: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 28, 2003 at 20:38:38:
Certain Mags are for bowel release I've been told. Try the Chelate Mag...(Luba rec'd I think at one point?) and that's what I do now and it's been great.
It isn't a suprise that any symptom would be worse if your gut is off...in fact, I'd think that it would be the actual root of the issue to begin with.
Take the amino version of mag and see if that helps... I also think 800 seems excessive... but maybe not. Someone else who knows more about this genre will get back with you...hope I helped a bit.
In Reply to: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 28, 2003 at 20:38:38:
Hi mary,
What are you taking the magnesium for? If you're having a negative reaction, perhaps something else will work instead of magnesium. Are you taking the mg. for your fibromyalgia? Maybe there are other ways to work with this.
Magnesium also upsets my GI tract. I have to limit myself to about 600 mgs a day of "Metagenics" magnesium glycinate. I'm taking it for palpitations and haven't found anything else that works better.
Taking lots of probiotics at the same time I started taking the magnesium did help the digestion quite a bit. I think the magnesium upset the intestinal flora.
Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Happygal
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by Barb on October 28, 2003 at 20:57:27:
Hi Barb, thanks for your response. The mag glycinate I'm taking is by KAL, and was highly recommended to me. However, I guess it doesn't much matter if it's a good product for other people, even most other people, if it isn't working for me. Interesting about increased bowel frequency indicating poor absorption, too.
I was taking a liquid mg but it was so danged expensive, I switched to this. What type of magnesium is it you're using, is it glycinate or another form??
thanks again,
mary
In Reply to: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 28, 2003 at 20:38:38:
more likely just a healing crisis, as glycinate is well-absorbed. give it time.
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by Happygal on October 28, 2003 at 21:09:23:
Hi Happygal, thanks for your response. I'm taking magnesium because of various fibro symptoms and an irregular heartbeat. I'm certain I'm deficient in it.What I can't figure out is, wouldn't I have diarrhea if the mg was causing gastrointestinal problems? I don't have diarrhea, I just keep having to go. Well, and it does seem like my digestion is slipping, I guess that's really the evidence I need.
There are several things that help the fibro, I just wanted to give this protocol a try, having read so many interesting & positive outcomes from it. Ironically, I started this during a phase where the fibro symptoms were in abeyance, and this brought them on more fiercely than ever. Duh...
mary
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by peterb on October 28, 2003 at 22:23:01:
Dunno, peterb, I thought about that but probably it's not, it's a fibro crisis. This mg glycinate product's got stearic acid & stearate in it, I wondered if those were the culprits. But those are also in my mg malate supplement & I never went through anything like this.
Thanks for the thoughts...
mary
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by Michele on October 28, 2003 at 20:58:34:
Mag. glycinate is a form of chelated magnesium. And my gut wasn't off before I started this, so it's clear the mg is causing the disruption. Nice to at least be able to pinpoint that. Not sure what you mean about the amino acid form of mag, what is that?
Thanks for your ideas...
mary
In Reply to: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 28, 2003 at 20:38:38:
Mary,
At best, magnesium is but an adjunctive help for fibromyositis. The main thing is dealing with the bracing and the LGS (which, of course, are intimately connected).
You need to cut your dose way down to the smallest dose and deal with the bracing and LGS. Start with serious SR and let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse (Archive in fibromyositis.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 2003 at 09:08:16:
Thanks, Walt, for your reply. What's interesting to me about this current reaction is that my fibro symptoms were all but gone until I added in the mg glycinate. I've been practicing twice daily meditation for a few years now, and I was considering my gut just about completely healed, until this happened. I thought adding the magnesium would be a very healthful addition to my current regimen, but ended up shooting myself in the foot by taking it!
I agree with your approach, having worked with NDs & done a huge amount of self-study over the past 3 years. And I can attest to the effectiveness of SR & tending one's gut. I guess the lesson here is, be careful what you tend it with.
mary
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 29, 2003 at 08:29:10:
I don't think those ingreds. would cause you a problem, however you might want to consider an ionized trace mineral supplement, for better absorbability.
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by mary on October 29, 2003 at 08:27:18:
Hi Mary,
You'd have diarrhea if you weren't absorbing the magnesium or if you were taking too much. So it sounds like you are absorbing it.
If it made your FM symptoms worse, try taking a lot of B complex 100 at the same time and see if that helps. (A similar thing happened to me -- I got worse by taking magnesium UNTIL I started megadosing with B vitamins. After that, the magnesium helped tremendously!)
I take a 100 B complex with each 100 mgs of magnesium and the two work together to both relax my muscles and stop the palpitations. I can tell if I need more B complex because my muscles get tight. I can tell if I need more magnesium because I start getting palpitations. However they both seem to work better when I take them together.
BTW, I had previously tried taking magnesium at least on 10 different occasions, and it always either didn't help or made me worse (until I took B vitamins with it). But eventually, it turned out to be one of the best things I've ever done to help myself. This is just to encourage you not to give up on it and to be creative to find different ways to use it.
If it's upsetting your stomach, try different brands, etc. Also try taking probiotics and being very careful about your diet, etc.
Also, don't forget SR and the other two legs of the stool, because that will really help your FM.
Best wishes,
Happygal
In Reply to: Re: magnesium glycinate making me worse posted by Happygal on October 31, 2003 at 07:03:42:
Dear Happygal, thank you kindly for such a helpful post. I sure will give the B complex a try.
Take care,
mary
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