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Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips

Posted by KMD on February 06, 2000 at 21:35:20:

Dr. Stoll,

My 9 year old suffers from this condition. I noticed in the glossary that eczema and/or allergies to not affect the palms of the hands. He suffers from allergies and eczema, so what could this be?

He has no "fingerprints" anymore, due to the frequent flare-ups. His fingers hurt and bleed more easily when he is having an episode of this. Eucerin cream helps to a point (this is not a medication).

We are getting educated enough (studying Beth's book) to start the whole foods diet, and I was really hoping this would be the answer for him...



Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips

Posted by Peggy on February 07, 2000 at 05:51:36:

In Reply to: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by KMD on February 06, 2000 at 21:35:20:

He needs essential oil supplementation. Flax, borage, fish ...




Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 2000 at 12:51:45:

In Reply to: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by KMD on February 06, 2000 at 21:35:20:

Hi, KMD.

Listen to Peggy (THANKS, Peggy.)

Also, in the meantime get some "Anhydrous Lanolin" at your pharmacy. The pharmacist will have it in the back since it is used in compounding. It is VERY inexpensive and goes a LONG way. It is almost impossible to not put on too much (messy). He will soon learn how much to use that can be absorbed and not be messy. It can take 15 minutes to rub it in so it is not messy.

Use the slightest bit and have him rub it in very well at least twice a day. The very best time is right after his bath or shower. You might send a little pocket jar of it along with him to school ao he can use it oftener.

Finally, this sometimes is related to zinc deficiency.

After 3-6 months the essential oils should have resolved it and the lanolin can be discontinued.

Tips of fingers COULD be related to his eczema but you will never know until you try the above.

Let us know how he does.

Walt



Thanks! ... and another question

Posted by KMD on February 07, 2000 at 13:00:44:

In Reply to: Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 2000 at 12:51:45:

For my son, who is 9 1/2 years old and weighs about 70lbs, what types of essential oils (exactly) would you recommend for him? Also, what doses and how often, etc? Please keep in mind that he cannot swallow a pill (we've tried this, and he is convinced he will choke to death, he ends up in tears, he's just NOT ready).

I'll definitely get the "anhydrous lanolin"!

By the way, is there a name for this condition of the fingertips? Sometimes, he does also have involvement on the palms, but not to the extreme of the fingertips. Also, his palms may peel but they do not become very dry and hardened like his fingertips.

THANKS AGAIN!



Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips

Posted by
Terrie on February 07, 2000 at 15:41:20:

In Reply to: Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by Peggy on February 07, 2000 at 05:51:36:

Hey Peggy,

My husband has the same thing and I always thought it was work related. His are so bad they crack & bleed. He's owns a marble/granite import and fabrication company - so he is always surrounded by marble dust.

After reading this and checking the archives, I called every pharmacy in town looking for the anhydrous lanolin too and couldn't find a pharmacist who has it. I noticed that when you were looking for it, you couldn't find it either. Did you ever?

Terrie



Re: Just get Lanolin

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on February 07, 2000 at 17:02:04:

In Reply to: Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by Terrie on February 07, 2000 at 15:41:20:

When I was looking around for anhydrous (no-water) lanolin here in Northern Alabams, I had little/no luck either. I finally went to a pharmacist who used to be a regular independent pharmacist and who had recently basically "sold out" to a big chain pharmacy. He sold them all his current "normal" prescription patients and his stock of drugs. He's still open, but he now only does consultations and dispenses special alternative medicines.

Anyway, when I asked there, he knew what I was talking about. No one else had. He said he would have to order it, and it should be in tomorrow. OK. So I asked him to order some. When it did not come in as promised, he gave me a small amount of anhydrous lanolin he had in bulk for compounding purposes. It was very thick and yellowish. I used it for a few days on my wife's feet and on my fingertips till what I had on order came in. It was in a small squeeze tube and was actually Hydrous (with water) Lanolin. I was disappointed to realize this when I got home with it, but it only cost about $2 for 1/2 ounce, so I figured I could use it up anyway, then look for the real stuff. It was white and not really any thinner than the anhydrous lanolin. So far I like what I got in bulk just a little better (perhaps because the price was Right!), but I really don't think there's enough difference between the two that I've tried to bother.

Next time I'll just ask for lanolin and let it go at that.

Walt mentions a little going a looooooooooong way, and it taking 15 minutes to rub it in. I've really not noticed that. The tube did say to put it onto your hand briefly to warm it up before applying, that it thins out with warmth. That did seem to be the case.

Hope this helps!
RHJ++



Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips

Posted by Peggy on February 08, 2000 at 02:34:48:

In Reply to: Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by Terrie on February 07, 2000 at 15:41:20:

No, a pharmacist ordered it for me. It's real cheap, it was $10 for a big tub of it, it doesn't come any smaller.




Re: Thanks! ... and another question

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 2000 at 12:31:27:

In Reply to: Thanks! ... and another question posted by KMD on February 07, 2000 at 13:00:44:

Hi, KMD.

You know we MDs have a name for everything. I am blocking on the name right now but your reference public librarian would have dermatology atlases, in color, from which you could recognize the condition and it would have a name.

See the homepage for the oils and the doses are stipulated for a #150 person. Since he is half that, you would use half the dose. It would be hard to overdose anyone.

ALL of these oils are available in liquid. the problem is keeping them from becoming rancid since every time you open the bottle more oxygen gets in. If you keep it in their dark bottle, in the refrigerator and use small bottles, this can be overcome. Just mix it in his food.

Walt



Thank You, Peggy & RHJ (NMI)

Posted by
terrie on February 08, 2000 at 13:20:25:

In Reply to: Re: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by Terrie on February 07, 2000 at 15:41:20:

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K M D Son has peeling fingertips / DIET etc.....

Posted by SR- - - on February 08, 2000 at 13:55:05:

In Reply to: Son has dry, cracked, peeling fingertips posted by KMD on February 06, 2000 at 21:35:20:

KMD

I had this also, or something similar.

Does your son ever use paper towels to dry off his hands at school or at home ?? If so, have him stop.. there are many harsh chemicals in most paper towels.. Give him a 100% BROWN or BLACK colored cotton bandana to put in his pocket and he can use that to dry off his hands at school when he washes up for lunch etc..A DARK colored bandana will draw less teasing attention and hopefully NONE AT ALL really... Do not give him a red or pink one !

I stopped using paper towels so much and it helped Tremendously.. when he washes his hands always finish the rinsing by doing it in COLD water, so as to close pores and seal in moisture..

HOWEVER, the cold water rinse should be followed ONLY when NO remedies will be applied, as you want the pores opened with warm water, when applying certain moisturizers... I use the cold water rinse as a matter of course when i do not plan on applying any creams etc.. this cold water rinse he can follow at school, if he does not plan on applying creams etc while at school etc.....


One other possibility:
Soaps at school are HARSH... Try to find him gentle formulas of ready to use hand wipes instead.. he can carry one or two in his pocket and use as needed and then just toss in trash... NO water & no bandana etc..
MAke sure it is a GENTLE formula and that it will not harm his hands as many contain harsh formulas !!

I also switched my hand soap to a soft soap liquid that has lotion in it.. find one he likes and that has a lot of conditioning ingredients
I use "Jason" Satin Soap / aloe vera type, they have other scents etc... It's in a pump bottle.


This is Great stuff:
Try "Hyland's" Calendula liquid spray / NON alcoholic
It comes in a 4 oz pump bottle.. it worked wonders for me and can be used even on the face for dry skin..
Have him use this frequently and apply it before using any other remedies as it needs to soak in first.. then you can seal it in with the lanolin or use aloe gel or a thin coating of regular old Vaseline to seal it in...
It's just concentrated Marigold Flowers !! IT WORKS !!!!!!!

The Oils / Essentail fatty Acids are Key !!

Try the ( flavored ) types of fish oils and mix in pudding or something he can tolerate if he hates the out of bottle taste.

Black currant oil is good and any of the efa oil capsules can be broken open and used in foods etc..

Flax oil can be an allergy problem, so be careful !!

Borage and black currant oil caps worked well for me.

Try eating more fish, like orange roughy, salmon etc..

Diet is the TRUE key to getting this under control, i can use paper towels again, but it took me over one year of proper diet to get their.. If he washes dishes as a chore, always have him wear cotton lined gloves like Bluetts...

There is a product in Sweden called ProViva, it helps with stomach and general overall health.. It is a functional food / probiotic drink, that has a culture in it like Yogurt does... But with no Milk allergy problems.. I am unsure if it is available in America... Look up ProViva and e mail them and ask ..

Something to consider:
You can make live Saurkraut, it has good bacteria / probiotics in it..You can get the starter by purchasing LIVE saurkraut at the health food store.
Ask or search the web for how to make your own and why..
I don't have all the info on it yet...


Let us know how things go

Be well

SR



Re: K M D Son has peeling fingertips / DIET etc..... (Archive under dry digits.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 2000 at 09:54:58:

In Reply to: K M D Son has peeling fingertips / DIET etc..... posted by SR- - - on February 08, 2000 at 13:55:05:

Thanks, SR.

All good stuff.

Walt



Re: K M D Son has peeling fingertips / DIET etc..... (Archive under dry digits.)

Posted by SR-- on February 09, 2000 at 12:50:07:

In Reply to: Re: K M D Son has peeling fingertips / DIET etc..... (Archive under dry digits.) posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 2000 at 09:54:58:

Walt

Those bits of info are some of my best..
Happy i can help out and glad you like them..

Take care Walt

SR-



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