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We don't have fluoride in our drinking water, and I stopped giving my 10-year-old and 12-year-old poly-vi-flor (you said they are bad vitamins). So we are temporarily not giving them any one-a-days and their only source of fluoride is toothpaste. What do you suggest? Should they take Standard Process pills or some other brand, or do they need fluoride in their daily vitamin pills?
Also, do you recommend fluoride teeth painting or sealing at a certain age for children? Thank you for your advice.
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Wendy on March 04, 2002 at 21:00:20:
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In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Wendy on March 04, 2002 at 21:00:20:
The benefits of fluoride (if there are any, which I'm not convinced there are) are topical only, and not systemic. Systemic fluoride can lead to fluorosis. You can find info on that by searching the web.
Not only that, fluoride is so toxic that the amount in a tube of toothpaste is enough to kill a child!
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Answer to your inquiry on March 04, 2002 at 22:23:56:
Thanks, Answer!
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Wendy on March 04, 2002 at 21:00:20:
Hi, Wendy.
I think there is more than enough fluoride in the tooth paste for the kids.
I would start the SP basic and watch them bloom.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Wendy on March 04, 2002 at 21:00:20:
Thank you Dr. Stoll, kmd and Answer. Neither of them have any cavities, so the toothpaste must have done its job. Now what do you all think about teeth painting?
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll - vitamin pills with or without fluoride in non-fluoridated town posted by Wendy on March 05, 2002 at 10:22:19:
There is NO scientific evidence that fluoride fights cavities (carries) it is a myth, and scam to unload toxic waste for profit, instead to pay for disposal of toxicv waste!
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