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I had two fingers that started peeling and went to see a dermatologist, who prescribed Desoximetasone ointment for me to use. I feel like it's not helping and my other fingertips have started peeling as well. I don't know if it's because of the ointment or if it's just spreading. I have also been using Aquaphor healing ointment. In addition, I have been wearing special cotton gloves day and night.
I read a previous thread about this and you had recommended using lanolin and essential oils. I did not know if others had success with this in the past and if there are any specific recommendations you can make for me? My fingers are only peeling and it is not itchy or painful right now.
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
There are many, many things that could be causing your skin problem. One possible cause, of many, might be a zinc deficiency. Do a websearch and see if you have any other symptoms associated with a zinc deficiency. If so, you might consider testing your body's zinc level.
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
Hi Ping,
Have you been wearing any new vinyl gloves?
(Some look like leather, but are not.)
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
Ping,
Ron & zapp have good suggestions aboiut other things that can contribute to this but still the biggest factor is the dysautonomia.
The cortisone cream you have been prescribed is the last rosort when the doc has no idea what is causing the problem. Unfortunately, since it is an anti-inflammatory, it actually will make problems with actual causes worse.
Walt
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
Thanks for the info. Dr. Stoll, are you saying that I have dysautonomia? Because I looked up the symptoms of this disorder and I don't seem to have any of them.
I recently ordered Allerderm cotton gloves to wear over my hands and Allerderm vinyl gloves to wear over those when doing household chores. I used to wear medical exam quality gloves everyday that I bought from Walgreens when making bamboo arrangements for long periods of time. I would also put baby powder inside the gloves so it wouldn't stick to my hands. I don't know if that would have contributed to my condition now.
My fingers seem to be peeling more now and I don't know what to do. I will look into the zinc deficiency as well.
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 08:44:27:
I forgot to mention that because I have thyroid cancer (not sure if I still have it), I bought an electrolyzed water filter, which I heard had been very beneficial to previous cancer patients. The filter can also produce acidic water good for washing vegetables, which I used to do with my bare hands. I also washed vegetables with vinegar using bare hands as well. I am guessing these contributed to my peeling fingers. I haven't done any of this in the past few weeks, but my fingers are still peeling and getting worse.
Thanks for your help and happy holidays!
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 25, 2007 at 07:24:32:
Hi Walt,
How does one know the difference between housewife's dermatitis and dysautonomia in such cases?
Thanks,
Jan
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 08:44:27:
Ping,
If you look up dysautonomia on the internet you will get a 50 year old definition--which was the only one I knew when I was in medical achool. See the archives.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [668.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 09:12:40:
Hi, Jan.
Merry Holidays!
Housewife's dermatitis starts BETWEEN the fingers where the most sensitive skin is and where chemicals tend to collect. Starting at the tips like this it is almost never HD. Of course, beginning dysautonomia can make the skin of the hands less resistant to irritants, like what happens in HD, and so CAN be related in some cases.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 25, 2007 at 11:49:40:
I did look it up in the archives and wasn't able to find much information that related to my problem right now. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place? It would help if you could tell me why you think I have dysautonomia and I could look up some information myself.
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ron [5412.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 00:37:51:
Ron,
I have been recently wearing cotton gloves 24/7 with special vinyl ones over them when I do housework. I don't know if I should expose my hands to air during the day or not.
Thanks for your help!
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 25, 2007 at 11:54:48:
Thanks, Walt,
and happy holidays to you, also!
I am, of course, just trying to understand how dysautonomia works. I haven't seen anything about the fingertips before in your archives, but it kind of makes sense about the cold hands and feet.
Thanks again,
Jan
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 13:13:53:
Hi Ping,
There is almost nothing out there on dysautonomia, except for when it is so extreme that people pass out from it.
I know because I have/had it too, and looked everywhere for info. Walt is the only one who really has a handle on it. I'm working on compiling everything he said about it into a book, and adding my own experience and learning. This information makes it much easier to understand the mechanism of dysautonomia. It'll be a while (couple of years, probably) before I can finish that book.
However the good news is the main remedy for dysautonomia is already published in our book "Recapture Your Health." The summary of the program can be read on the website article on the home page entitled, "How to be Healthy."
Best wishes,
Jan
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 13:13:53:
Ping,
Listen to Jan. We have been discussing the concept of "progressive indications of chronic conditions" on this BB for many years. The conventional attitude has been that all chronic conditions spring into existance from perfectly normal to full blown conditions overnight! Whereas the truth (and the only rational explanation) is that all chronic conditions start slowly with functional anomalies and gradually build up over the years until actual structural changes are present that can be found by the allopathic system. Obviously the conditions begin long before actual structural chsnges can be found. The peeling fingertips are, most commonly, early structural changes of functional things that have been going on in YOUR history for years.
In my opinion, you have the choice of either learning a more advanced understanding of dysautonomia OR waiting for some additional structural cnanges to send you messages. I can guarantee that there will be more.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 13:13:53:
Ping,
Listen to Jan. We have been discussing the concept of "progressive indications of chronic conditions" on this BB for many years. The conventional attitude has been that all chronic conditions spring into existance from perfectly normal to full blown conditions overnight! Whereas the truth (and the only rational explanation) is that all chronic conditions start slowly with functional anomalies and gradually build up over the years until actual structural changes are present that can be found by the allopathic system. Obviously the conditions begin long before actual structural chsnges can be found. The peeling fingertips are, most commonly, early structural changes of functional things that have been going on in YOUR history for years.
In my opinion, you have the choice of either learning a more advanced understanding of dysautonomia OR waiting for some additional structural cnanges to send you messages. I can guarantee that there will be more.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [668.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 23:20:44:
Thanks, Jan.
There are many minor structural changes we have not discussed on the BB that are likely early indications of chronic stress (dysautonomia). The trick is to pick up on them while they are still functional--before they actually become structural. Understanding human physiology will help you pick up on those we have not discussed.
This condition is a great example: Cold hands and feet are functional and the fingertips are early structural changes. There are many variations of this pattern but I hope you see where I am going.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 26, 2007 at 08:42:03:
Thanks, Walt.
Yes I do see. That helps me understand better, and is helpful for the future book. I'm not sure I could figure out the other types of structural changes, but as questions arise, I continue to print out everything you say about this condition as material for the future book.
I'm so glad you are feeling better.
I would be interested in knowing if the person with peeling fingertips had cold hands for a long time, first.
Namaste`
Jan
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips -- Archive in functional anatomy. posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 26, 2007 at 08:05:50:
Walt,
Seems the body is always sending out signals to us, but we don't listen or see them until they are get out of hand. Why is that? Ignorance or stupidity?
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 25, 2007 at 15:22:55:
Hi Ping,
Try not wearing them at all unless you are doing something that involves harsh chemicals or too much
strong soap.
It could be a Contact Dermatitis or an allergy to
talcum powder. Did you know that Baby Powder can be as dangerous as Asbestos when inhaled?
see link below...
What is it that you are fearing about your environment that makes you wear gloves so much?
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [668.4381] on December 26, 2007 at 09:01:48:
Thanks, Jan.
You are right. The fact that she had had cold hands has not been established. I would be VERY surprised if she did not have that in her history.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips -- Archive in functional anatomy. posted by Steve [5592.4388] on December 26, 2007 at 09:26:52:
Hi, Steve.
In MY opinion, it is the "fault" of the Allopathic Monopoly. It has established itself as the be all and end all of wisdom about all things" and so has molded the public opinion to the point that anyone who disagrees with their self-serving position is considered at least a little bit "nutty".
Anyone who bothers to learn about these messages in time to help themselves reverse them takes money from the monopoly and that cannot be tolerated.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Walt Stoll [93.1903] on December 27, 2007 at 07:38:50:
Hi Walt,
Thanks Walt..
Cold hands could help explain the need to wear the gloves couldn't it?
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ron [5412.1575] on December 27, 2007 at 10:21:11:
Doesn't Dr. Stoll say that part of the treatment for housewive's dermatitis is to wear white cotton gloves at all times for a year or something like that to protect the hands from all irritating substances?
It was my sense that the poster had read that in the archives and was following Dr. Stoll's protocol.
Nutmeg
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ron [5412.1575] on December 27, 2007 at 10:21:11:
Yup!
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ron [5412.1575] on December 26, 2007 at 10:53:11:
Ron,
I used to make bamboo arrangements in which I wore gloves for long periods of time. Now because my skin started peeling, my dermatologist told me to wear cotton gloves all the time. I am not currently wearing the surgical type gloves with baby powder since it is not festival season and I do not need to make any bamboo arrangements
Thanks for your help!
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [668.4381] on December 26, 2007 at 09:01:48:
I did not have cold hands for any period of time before my fingertips started peeling.
Thanks!
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Nutmeg [4785.74] on December 27, 2007 at 11:38:56:
Nutmeg,
Thanks for your comment. It is true that I wear the cotton gloves to protect my hands from irritating substances. It was also something recommended by my dermatologist and not because of cold hands.
Thanks!
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
I use borax as in 20 Mule Team for skin irritations, and cayenne pepper in salt water for infections.
In Reply to: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 24, 2007 at 19:49:06:
Hi Ping,
Is it possible that you are also doing something new like
working out with weights, riding a bicycle, knitting,
lots of sewing, or using some new hand lotions or laundry or dish soaps?
It could even be a reaction to a new keyboard with some
kind of different plastic that irritates you.
Is the peeling raw and red or just cracked and dry?
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 28, 2007 at 08:28:13:
My fingers were getting all dry and cracked and peeling around the edge of the nails and I figured out that it was *antibacterial* dish detergent doing it. I thought I was pretty immune to advertising hype, but I bought some of this stuff--I don't know what got into me! It seems total overkill to put a bactericide in soap. Now I know that it wrecks my hands too.
I guess now you wear the vinyl gloves when doing dishes? but it could take a while to heal IF that's what it is/was. Just a thought.
In Reply to: Re: Peeling Fingertips posted by Ping [5339.4381] on December 28, 2007 at 08:31:56:
Thanks, Ping.
Can you explain to me what harm there would be in doing properly applied SR for a year? From what I can tell from here, this is the only way you will ever know how much incipient dysautonomia is contributing to the warning your body is trying to send you with this relatively mild symptom. In the meantime using anything with a lot of lanolin in it (several times a day--sparingly) will help your symptoms.
Walt
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