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Warning again: "Genetically Engineered Foods"

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• Growing your own food Judy F. 13:55:14 9/24/01 (4)
  • Re: Growing your own food (Archive in GEF.) Walt Stoll 09:07:32 9/26/01 (0)
  • Re: Growing your own food JoanNAz 15:30:04 9/24/01 (2)
    • Pawpaw Judy F. 18:41:44 9/24/01 (1)
      • Re: Pawpaw JoanNAz 19:08:42 9/24/01 (0)
• Do you know the case number for ABI vs FDA? If so those incriminating files might be on public record, I'd like to see them. lester 12:05:09 9/24/01 (1)
  • Re: Do you know the case number for ABI vs FDA? If so those incriminating files might be on public record, I'd like to see them. Walt Stoll 08:59:26 9/26/01 (0)

In Reply to: Warning again: "Genetically Engineered Foods" posted by Walt Stoll on September 24, 2001 at 07:06:31:

If you attend, will you ask Mr. Druker for the full case number?

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• Re: Do you know the case number for ABI vs FDA? If so those incriminating files might be on public record, I'd like to see them. Walt Stoll 08:59:26 9/26/01 (0)

In Reply to: Warning again: "Genetically Engineered Foods" posted by Walt Stoll on September 24, 2001 at 07:06:31:

GE foods concerns me a lot. One of the problems is the pollen drifts. It contaminates other varieties. There was a case in Canada a few months ago where a neighbor's field of GE corn contaminated the fields of a farmer. This farmer saves his own seed for his crops. It got contaminated with the GE corn, and a Canadian judge forced him to pay royalties to the maker of the GE corn! (The GE company should have been forced to pay him for contaminating his crops.)

Some countries won't accept shipments of GE foods, and the contamination by GE crops is hurting farmers who want to sell to those markets.

Since cross-breeding happens, one thing my husband and I want to do is to grow food for us that is not commonly found on dinner tables. The GE companies are monkeying around with the foods that get eaten the most because this is where they can make the biggest profits. They're not going to touch (at least for a while) foods that not too many people eat - like pawpaw, collard greens, etc. There's not enough profit. Provided a food doesn't cross-pollinate with some of the GE crops, it should be safe for consumption (at least for a while).

We haven't eaten corn for some time. The FDA is covering up adverse reactions in people who have consumed products with GE corn in them. The GE corn is not supposed to be in products consumed by humans, but it contaminated regular corn crops.

Judy

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• Re: Growing your own food (Archive in GEF.) Walt Stoll 09:07:32 9/26/01 (0)
• Re: Growing your own food JoanNAz 15:30:04 9/24/01 (2)
  • Pawpaw Judy F. 18:41:44 9/24/01 (1)
    • Re: Pawpaw JoanNAz 19:08:42 9/24/01 (0)

In Reply to: Growing your own food posted by Judy F. on September 24, 2001 at 13:55:14:

Hi, Judy.

If/when you and your husband are growing these "unusual" foods would you please let us know . . I'm sure I'm not the only person on this board you would like to buy some. (what is pawpaw?) All of the food allergy sufferers probably need some new foods to put into rotation.

Thanks for posting. JoanNAz

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• Pawpaw Judy F. 18:41:44 9/24/01 (1)
  • Re: Pawpaw JoanNAz 19:08:42 9/24/01 (0)

In Reply to: Re: Growing your own food posted by JoanNAz on September 24, 2001 at 15:30:04:

It's a tree native to the hardwood forests of the east and midwest. They ripen from August to October, so if you live in a big city like Phoenix or Tucson, you may be able to pick some up. They won't grow in the wild in Az because they don't like low humidity and dry winds. They also require 400 hours of winter chill. But they are sometimes grown as houseplants in deep containers. They're sometimes called "the poor man's banana."

Phoenix and Tucson have fairly high populations of people not native to the U.S., and local supermarkets frequently stock "exotic" produce for them. Also, there are foods Native Americans eat and gather.

Collard greens will grow in southern AZ during the fall, winter, and spring. If you're in Phoenix or Yuma, they'd probably only grow in the "winter" in those places. In Flag they're probably strictly summer.

I don't think anyone is fooling around with yams yet. From a western standpoint, they're adaptogen (increasing resistence to stress). From a TCM standpoint they tend to be Qi tonic. Sweet potatoes are not the same thing as yams. They belong to 2 different families.

Personally, I like pomegranates. I look forward to getting some each fall. They will grow in AZ - at least at the higher altitudes in southern AZ. I don't know about Phoenix, Tucson, or Yuma. But definitely in Bisbee, Sierra Vista, etc.

If you can get a copy of a Gurney's (I think I spelled the company correctly) catalogue of seeds and plants, the company sells some "exotic" vegetable seeds. I can remember when spaghetti squash was "exotic" and the seed had to be ordered from some place like Gurney's. I'm not sure, but I think squash may be one of the plants that the GE folks are messing up. I don't know if spaghetti squash, butternut squash, and yellow squash cross pollinate or what families they're in.

I guess you know about flaxseed and flaxseed oil for omega-3. If you eat meat, grass-fed beef is high in omega-3, but not grain-fed beef. There was an article on Dr. Mercola's site. The highest percentages of omega-3 tend to be found in plants and animals native to the more northern latitudes. I've heard it refered to as "nature's antifreeze".

There are various "weeds" such as lambs quarters that not only are medicinal but can be used as food.

Our ancestors just a few generations back had far more variety in their diets than we do today. Especially those who lived in rural settings.

Judy

• pawpaw

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• Re: Pawpaw JoanNAz 19:08:42 9/24/01 (0)

In Reply to: Pawpaw posted by Judy F. on September 24, 2001 at 18:41:44:

Thanks for the great info, Judy!

Does a pawpaw taste like a banana?

As I live in an apt. and have no space to grow anything and a "black thumb"!:), I would need to purchase the fruits instead of seeds. We have Wild Oats here (Tucson), and while they have a fairly good selection of traditional organic produce many times the "weird" stuff just isn't there. Trader Joe's is also here but their produce selection isn't as good; they seem to focus more on other things. I wish we had Whole Foods here, but we don't (yet).
Am checking out another store ("New Life") later this week. I would KILL for a fresh pomegranate! I haven't lived here long so maybe the stores here carry them -- when are they in season, fall, right?

I had not heard that spaghetti squash is being "monkeyed with." What a shame, I eat it periodically since I can't eat most pastas.

Am looking into mail-order sources for produce, like Diamond Organics (awaiting their catalog); perhaps they have pomegranates, etc.

Dr. Mercola is great, isn't he? Have joined subscriber list, and as soon as I can afford it will order some grass-fed beef. Currently I buy Coleman's at Wild Oats, which, while not grass-fed, is at least not pumped up full of hormones and antibiotics.

Well, it was nice "chatting" with you! :)

Take Care, JoanNAz

In Reply to: Do you know the case number for ABI vs FDA? If so those incriminating files might be on public record, I'd like to see them. posted by lester on September 24, 2001 at 12:05:09:

Hi, Lester.

Since the AMA revoked my license (see home page) I have no money to travel or attend conferences. I keep up by the monthly world literature search I have been mentioning (Functional Medicine Update--website healthcomm.com)

One of the AMA's strategies is to deprive the alternative practitioner of the $ wherewithall to keep up but the internet is finally defeating that strategy.

If YOU go let us know what you learn.

Walt

In Reply to: Growing your own food posted by Judy F. on September 24, 2001 at 13:55:14:

Thanks, Judy F.

You will be frightened (as I was) to hear that more than 80% of the foods we can get at the grocery store now contain GEFs and ALL without having to put it on the lable.

Enough lobby money can accomplish miracles.

Walt