Dear k.,
I, too am a dog lover.
Since vets have used this stuff, successfully, for MANY years, you could get your best information from her/him.
I know that the usual dose for an average adult human (150#) is 1500 milligrams a day in 2 divided doses.
Walt
My wife is diabetic, and saw her blood sugars go up substantially after using glucosamine for just a few days. We don't know if the glucosamine (which is an amino sugar) had anything to do with it, but she generally avoids all sugars. I know nothing about its interactions in diabetics, but I would like to put this concern out there to see if there is either any medical opinion or if anybody else has had similar experiences.
Dr. Stoll I am interested in anything you may have to offer in the way of advice as to whether I can take the glucosamine chondroitin. As a child I survived polio and two years ago had a kidney transplants. My age is 6l and have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis of the lower spine due to my limp all these years.
The pain is pretty bad at times and I have heard lots of things about glucosame.Could I safely take this? I will appreciate anything you can send me about it, Thanks.
.
In Reply to: Re: side effects of glucosamine/condroitin posted by Ken on February 01, 1998 at 11:16:14:
Dear Ken,
My understanding is that glucosamine has nothing to do with sugar or diabetes. Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about glucosamine & glucosamine side effects.
THEN, if you have more questions, write again.
Walt
I was involved in a huge auto accident in march. When I realized that my whole life from that day forward would be affected I began research on how to help myself without drugs. Horse people have been using supplements such as this for centuries, I decided that I could use the same suppement and see what happened. After a month the orthopedist and physical therapists were stunned. My knees and legs where so changed that it was medically trackabled. Extreme trauma can also be a reason for this wonderful supplement.
To Walt Stoll:
I read frequently that Glucosamine with Condroitin is good for joints. Is it also good for tendons/ligaments? I have such pain in my wrist and hip that is aggravated by tennis. I do stretching exercises, which help a lot.
Also, if Glucosamine with C does help tendons/ligaments, is this just a short term fix while taking G with C, or does it help get rid of the problem? Thanks.
I need information about terapeutical effect of Glucosamine Sulfate in Osteoarthritis.
I use a product from Rotafarm Italia, DONA sachets, without side effects. What do you say!
I have tried glucosamine sulfate for my joints. During the football season hurt my elbow and I needed something to help heal it as quick as possible. When I first started using it I really didn't think it did much. My joint pains went away but I thought my body was just start to heal. When I got off though i really noticed my joints starting to hurt again as my heavy lifting days took it's toll on my body. I think it really helped a lot for my joints. So I say maybe give it a try to see what u think. Also I experienced no side effects.
In one of your messages, you mentioned that your research on chondroitin said that it wasn't very effective when taken orally. Can you tell me more about that? I have always heard that they are best wehn taken together, but have found a glucosamine HCL product that I am considering. It does not have chondroitin in it though. Please let me knw what you have found, or lead me to some resources. Feel free to email me. Thanks
In Reply to: glucosamine/chondroitin posted by Dawn Taylor on February 03, 1998 at 00:57:52:
See article re above in Nutrition Action Healthletter Jan Feb. 1998 published by the Center for science in the public interest www.cspinet.org. It has the latest research.
I am allergic to seafood. I was told that it was likely I would be allergic to glucosamine, since it is made from some type of shellfish shell. Would I have a reaction to glucosamine? Are there any other recommended supplements I could take to increase joint function?
Did you get the fax? The reason that I'm asking is that when the connection was made, a different area code then the one I entered popped up on the screen.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Elaine List on February 01, 1998 at 21:36:29:
Dear Elaine,
Nothing I see here would prevent your trying glucosamine. However, I would be VERY surprised if it did more than give you temporary relief--it might even work for a year or so.
If I were in your shoes, I would see a local Rolfer in consultation. Call (800) 530-8875 for the closest Certified Rolfer to where you live. THEN, while you are pain free from the Rolfing (which will likely not last more than a year or so) I would learn an effective skilled relaxation technique and practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day forever (never within 2 hours of retiring). See Skilled Relaxation.
Let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate side effects posted by Patricia A. van Bergen on February 02, 1998 at 13:40:44:
Dear Patricia,
Thanks for the testimonial. Much as the AMA hates testimonials (and anecdotal evidence) they are ignoring the fact that many of the great discoveries in medicine were found by just that avenue.
Walt
In Reply to: glucosamine/chondroitin posted by Dawn Taylor on February 03, 1998 at 00:57:52:
Dear Dawn,
In many of our notes on this subject, I list the (800) 692-9400 number of Metagenics technical support for people to call to get technical information like this. If you do not get satisfaction there, call (800) 522-6382 and get a message to Jim Shaddle. Tell him I suggested you call (that you have alreasy called technical suport) & see if he will send you the information the other number is supposed to supply.
My "research" has only been with the literature since I have no personal or professional experience with this.
The archives on this subject have just been updated & improved for user friendliness. Link to archives. Let us know how much easier this is IF it is.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine/chondroitin posted by Fred Hanneman on February 03, 1998 at 02:48:57:
Dear Fred,
Thanks. This is an authorative (although a bit too conservative from my standpoint) publication. I know of no other better with easy access to the general public. I wish everyone had a subscription.
Walt
In Reply to: Glucosamine-allergies posted by S Miener on February 03, 1998 at 08:53:43:
Dear S.,
It IS possible that you would react. However, since most joint problems are directly linked to LGS and so are nearly all "allergies" you would better address yourself to gaining knowledge at this point rather than trying more things. THEN, you would be much better positioned to KNOW the answers to your questions.
My best advice would be for you to start with my new book (link below). This would entail the least expenditure of time, effort and expense for you to get looking in the right direction for the answers to the questions you have posted.
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosimine/Chondritin - How Long? posted by Dick Luchor on February 03, 1998 at 09:15:12:
Dear Dick,
I DID get the FAX (actually 2 of them). However, when I tried to send you an email thanking you, & telling you of my intentions, the mail came back. I tried sending it again with an alteration of address so I hope it is going to make it. I may have mistaken a _ for a -
Let me know if you did not get it.
Walt
In Reply to: Cervical fusion/associated problems posted by Melissa Bowling on February 05, 1998 at 13:43:38:
I am sorry to hear of your problem.
The reason the humerus continues to dislocate from the glenoid fossa is due to the ligament laxity. It's sorta like taking a 1 inch rubberband that is supposed to hold a distance of 1 inch and stretching it to 5 inches and holding it there for a period of time. Like the whole time you had on the halo brace. If they would have corrected the problem with your shoulders at the time you would not have this problem as the ligaments would have had time to heal while your odontoind was and while you were relatively inactive.
I would consider glucosamine supplements to ensure that the ligaments have the building blocks necessary to heal themselves. MOST IMPORTANTLY, you have to keep them from dislocating. Every time they dislocate the ligaments get restretched and the healing takes just that much longer. I run into this problem all day, everyday, with patients with spinal misalignments. They get to feeling better long before the ligaments have healed and perpetuate the cycle by "overdoing it".
You want to keep your shoulders active so they do not begin to "freeze up" with adhesions yet you don't want to do anything that will dislocate them again. Positions to avoid are, reaching behind you in any way(over or under). Avoid the postition a pitcher takes when he throws(arm out and forearm up at 90degrees).
I realize this is all terribly hard to do and after wearing that spaceship on your head the last thing you want to do is change your lifestyle some more but keeping the humerus in is the only way I know of. I suppose if they "fall" out all the time that surgery to shorten the ligaments is possible.
As far as exercises. Just about anything that strengthens the surrounding sturctures will help. The muscles of the back that attach to the humerus(supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres major and minor, subscapularis) will probably be best at holding the G-H joint tight. Overstrengthening of the pectoralis major may serve to pull the humerus anterior and medial(which we don't want) so don't over exercise these areas.
Good luck and I surely hate this whole mess for you.
Hello Walt,
"The best price I have seen is by NOW and is 750 milligrams a capsule"
Can you please give me NOW's number?
Thanks,
Deryk
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by anthony carlquist on February 02, 1998 at 20:17:31:
I have taken glucoseamine sulfate for a month and it has cured tendonitis in my elbow. The last time I had tendonitis in my elbow, it didn't heal for a year. I also feel that my knees are stronger. I know orthopods prescribe it for people who have had knee surgery to rebuild the cartilage in their knees. I have had no side effects.
In Reply to: Re: side affects of glucosamine sulfate posted by Deryk Bramwell on February 10, 1998 at 11:37:39:
Dear Deryk,
ALL healthfood stores carry the NOW brand and can give you how to contact them.
Walt
I was just wondering if you could answer a couple questions that I have. I would like to know the reccommended dosages for Chondroitin and Glucosamine, and I was also wondering what foods that they can be found in. If you could answer those questions it would be a great deal of help to me. Thank you.
After taking Glucomsamine Sulfate (one 500mg capsule with meals 3 times a day) for the past three weeks I have had to stop as it is causing severe indigestion. Is there something I could take in conjunction to alleviate the indigestion?
Thank you,
Rita
In Reply to: Chondroitin and Glucosamine posted by Rachel on February 14, 1998 at 16:21:11:
Dear Rachel,
Use the search feature provided with this BB & read everything you can find about glucosamine, chondroitin and also the side effects fo these substances.
The only thing I know it is in is shell fish shells (glucosamine). Chondroitin is only in cartilege, so far as I know. Glucosamine (1500 milligrams a day) and chondroitin (1200 milligrams a day).
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Glucosamine Sulfate posted by RIta Millar on February 16, 1998 at 00:41:55:
Dear Rita,
This MUST be a sensitivity. You should report it to the manufacturer.
You would best be looking for all the other options you have for resolving arthritis since you may not be able to take this one. If you use rthe search feature for this BB, & read everything you can find about arthritis, glucosamine and glucosamine side effects, I think you will begin to see that glucosamine will never be a cure for this anyhow.
Walt
In Reply to: Glucosamine Sulfate posted by RIta Millar on February 16, 1998 at 00:41:55:
Rita,
I have found that many GS users get gastro problems from some products and not for others. The market for this stuff is growing EXPLOSIVELY due to Dr. Theodokolus' book THE ARTHRITIS CURE. Unfortunately some of the manufacturing processes might leave something to be desired.
Ask for the FUTUREBIOTICS brand of glucosamine sulfate from your health food store. If they don't have it they can order it for you. I haven't had anyone have trouble with that brand. Please let me know if you do.
Bob
I have been taking GS for about a year and can tell the difference in my sholder . A friend gave me a partial bottle 500mg capsules she said her lips cracked when she took them. I have taken the rest of the bottle with no known effect??
Is glucosamine sulfate safe to take for joint problems and are there any known side effects?
I have taken Glucosamine Chondritin for over 2 months now and with prayer it has diminished my pain in my hands and feet and the swelling has gone down too. I used to be in tears from pain on my feet just walking to my car in the mornings, now, thanks God the pain is just a minute trace. Before this "regimen" I took a NAISD pills prescribed by my physician to reduce swelling and it helped "a bit" but the pain was still there. I'm interested to know about the side effects if there are any.
Leena
See the abstracts set forth at http:\www.nutrasense.com/abs/o.html
(I am not connected with nutrasense in any way.)
My husband tried glucosamine for arthritis in his back. He is 42, his stomach was too upset when he took it to finish a week of using it. Is there anything that might work so he can try again?
I have a comment and a couple of questions.
First, I have had marvelous results for my arthiritis in my knees from gluclosamine sulfate. However, I guess that according to Dr. Michael Murray that 1 out of 200 people have stomach problems from it. Well, I'm one of those people. When I was taking 1500 mg. of gluclosamine a day I started getting stomach cramps, flatulence, and diarahea. I went off the gluclosamine and my problems with my knees started getting bad again. I have found that I am able to take 250 mg. of gluclosamine and 200 mg. of chondrotin a day and that seems to help about as well as before without all the side effects. I was wondering Dr. Stoll, you were saying that the arthiritis will recur again and we need to study alot more about the underlying issues to do something about them. Tell me what I need to research, please.
Also, I am overweight and have had a lot of sugar craving and I was told that l-glutamine will help this. Is this true and also are gluclosamine sulfate and l-glutamine related and if so would taking both of these possibly create some side effects since I've had the side effects from gluclosamin before.
Thanks a lot.
The discussions I've seen on glucosamine have all been in terms of its impact on osteoarthritis sufferers. I have psoriatic arthritis. Any evidence that it will also reduce the inflammatory process for this form of arthritis??
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Leena on February 20, 1998 at 01:28:11:
Dear Leena,
Use the search feature provided with this BB and read everything you can find about glucosamine, glucosamine side effects AND the condition for which you are taking it.
Then, if you still have questions, write again.
In the meantime, the resolution of the chronic conditions for which people take glucosamine will NEVER be resolved by something you take but by something you DO. Glucosamine is a very safe, & for some people a very effective way to get temporary benefits----certainly better than taking NSAIDS.
However there are ways to discover AND deal with the causes of your condition. When you are ready to do that, get a copy of my book (link below) as this is still the least expensive (in time & money) way to learn what you need to know to get on the path to resolution.
Once you have the above information under your belt, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Joan Eckley on February 20, 1998 at 23:23:37:
Dear Joan,
There was such a suggestion, right here on the BB, about alternative manufacturers for this substance solving this problem.
HOWEVER, having said that, I would like you to consider using the search feature for this BB & read everything on the subject.
Glucosamine, though a helpful adjunct to treating the symptoms of musculoskeletal problems, will NEVER be the solution to them. The main purpose of this BB is to get people to become interested in understanding the causes for these conditions and doing something about them. This is the only way yet known that will actualy resolve chronic conditions like this.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Leena on February 20, 1998 at 01:28:11:
I have been using the above for three months now. I have to say there has been a considerable improvement. For two months nothing happened. Then I changed the brand and the recommendation was six tablets a day, which I thought was lot. The pain has diminished quite a lot (as well as ostheoarthritis all over my body, I have an eroded disc in my spine, and the pain was intolerable. I couldn't sleep at night for the pain, and could hardly get out of bed in the morning. I was so desperate so thought I would take a chance on the glucosasamine/chondroitin.
I have felt much better. I am sleeping better. I have even been kneeling down to wash the kitchen floor, which I have been unable to do for months now.
However - and a big however, - I suddenly started developing terrible pains the my stomach and intestines. I was really scared. I stopped the glucosamine at once and the pain diminished considerably.
Has the stuff done some sort of harm to my insides?
Maybe I should continue to just take a small dose daily.
P. Gene.
The Netherlands.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine sulfate posted by Walt Stoll on February 20, 1998 at 14:27:47:
CAn Glucosamine help injured tendons heal faster or does it just help with joint cartlidge problems. I have achilles tendonitis, can this help???
looking for some comfort on knees. I was on the tread mill 4 months ago and have had an uncomfortable feeling; not really painful just feels cold. I have good circulation. It seems like the bone on the right side of knee as I look down or I touch it it hurts. I've been taking glucosamine. I think it's a type of arthritis. I have heel spurs on both feet.
In Reply to: gluclosamine sulfate and l-glutamine posted by Mary Murray on February 21, 1998 at 03:12:31:
Dear Mary,
Just this week, someone put a great note on the BB about the manufacturer having a lot to do with whether glucosamine sulphate causes GI upset. Use the search feature for this BB & look up glucosamine side effects and look at those for the past week
The glutamine is a substance that helps repair LGS. Of course, the most common cause of arthritic symptoms is a combination of LGS and the total body "bracing" that is the most common cause of LGS---AND of arthritis.
If you do not yet have a copy of my book (you must not since you are asking how to look for the causes of arthritis) that should be your next step (link below).
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Bernie Stalter on February 21, 1998 at 09:00:56:
Dear Berenie,
This subject has been discussed within the past few months right here on this BB. Use the search feature & see if you can find the string----it would save me a lot of typing.
Basically, this form of arthritis is caused by the psoriatic process, not the other way around. However, they both are caused by very similar processes. You should read everything you can find about psoriasis here on the BB (use the search feature).
THEN, if you still have questions, write again. To get a headstart in the direction of seeing how this is all related, you should start with a copy of my book (link below).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 17:09:34:
I plan to start taking this supplement but wonder about interactions with other medications; I take adalat and cardura for blood pressure, and premarin (have had hysterectormy).
Thank you.
I have recently dislocated my right shoulder, and the statistics I heard of a 50% chance of redislocation are not all too pleasing to me. I have recently started taking glucosamine sulfate (1000mg/day) and chondroitin sulfate (400mg/day) + multivitamins in hopes of improving the shoulder healing process and decreasing a future chance of redislocation. How much will this help (if at all), and if it will help, how much should I take and for how long should I take it to be fully effective? I have not heard of any side effects of glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate so far; are there any?
Can a diabetic take glucosamine sulfate?
Thank you for any assistance.
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by P. Gene on February 23, 1998 at 07:21:36:
Dear P.,
Apparently it makes a lot of difference who is the manufacturer. There was a good note about how to solve this right here on the BB within the past couple of weeks.
Use the search feature and read everything you can find on this subject for the past couple of weeks.
I doubt that there has been any permanent damage. However, remember what I have been saying for the past several years on the subject of glucosamine and arthritic pains: The resolution of chronic conditions like this will NEVER be something you take but something you do. Glucosamine is safer and frequently more effective than NSAIDS. However, it will not continue to be "the answer" forever. Sooner or later, the symptoms will come back even though you might continue to take the glucosamine. THEN, what will you do? Try something else?
Leaky gut syndrome is now known to be the major cause of most arthridides. Your intestinal symptoms are moost likely due to the LGS that you had before even any arthritic symptoms were present. That is not to say that the glucosamine might not have pushed you over the edge of your GI tract's tolerance to the point of actually having GI symptoms. It probably did. However, those symptoms would have shown up sooner or later anyhow.
If you do not understand these relationships, you would profit by reading a copy of my book (link below).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine sulfate posted by Greg Palevo on February 23, 1998 at 11:35:42:
Dear Greg,
I know of no good research in this area. However, you could probably get some good information about this from your Vet.
I DO know that all forms of tendonitis improve a lot by the individual learning an effective skilled relaxation technique & practicing it at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). There are a lot of notes about how to do this & resources for getting more data on this BB; also, on the homepage of this 'site (link on this page).
Write for more questions.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Chicken cartilage for knee pain posted by joalice Hagle on February 23, 1998 at 16:21:31:
Dear Joalice,
You really need to read a copy of my book so you understand WHY you have this and what your options might be for YOU to eliminate it (link below). You might get temporary relief from Chiropractic, Rolfing, glucosamine, etc. However, in the long run, only YOU can decide why YOU have this and what is the best resolution. I hope Doc Dave has some comments.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Miriam on February 23, 1998 at 23:04:58:
Dear Miriam,
I know of none. However that is a question best answered by the manufacturer. Call them.
Also, you might try calling Jim Shaddle at (800) 522-6382 as to where this information (if he does not have it) might best be obtained.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
Any info on the effects/success of glucosamine sulfate for arthritis in hip causing need for hip replacement? That is, is it too late to try something like this?
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Vik Rajan on February 24, 1998 at 01:47:52:
Dear Vic,
There is no convincing research in this area (that I know of). It likely will not harm your healing process. Within the past month, there has been discussion about this very process, right here on this BB, that I know you would find helpful. Use the search feature and read everything you can find about your condition.
Also, to save me a lot of typing, use the search feature to read everything you can find about glucosamine and glucosamine side-effects. You will learn a lot there about your questions.
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Robert A Urbahns on February 18, 1998 at 02:13:42:
My 79-year old mother has been taking glucosamine sulfate for 2 months and has noticed an improvement.
Now however, she has begun to experience tachycardia and palpitations, and is under observation. Has anyone heard of a relation to heart problems? I'd be most grateful for an e-mail on this.
My 13yo Daughter Has JCA her Right Hip Is Distroyed,We have to what till early 20's for Hip Replacement.
Presently on Prednisolone.
Dr Wants her to start Methotrexate,But we don't think the side affects are very good!!!!!!
One Dr Says Use Cortasoine injetion,Surgon says it WANT HELP!!!!!!
I've put her now on Glucosamine ChondroitinDo you Sugest Any thing????? Could it be leaky Gut Syndrome??????
+ is there a test for this?????
Also Why is it some Dr's use penicelline,some don't for this
JCA?????
Barbara.
I heard from a friend that is extremly overweight that his doctor informed him of a series of shots that can be given to assist in the re-generation of cartilage. Have you heard of such a treatment.
In Reply to: Re: Chicken cartilage for knee pain posted by Joey Edens on February 24, 1998 at 18:48:33:
Dear Joey,
The only "shots" that I know of that does that ARE cartilege. It has killed a few people and I THOUGHT is had been withdrawn from the market.
If I knew what was in the shots, I might be able to help more. If the doc will not tell your friend what it is, I would run very fast in the opposite direction.
Walt
I have no cartlidge on the inside of both of my knee's. I am riding bone on bone. Is there any way to get cartlidge replacement without total knee replacement?
In Reply to: Re: Chicken cartilage for knee pain posted by Walt Stoll on February 26, 1998 at 11:36:12:
I have two very painful "basketball knees." Pain, swelling, fluid, stiffness etc. When I lived in Dallas, I saw a sports Dr. and he xrayed them, said I had MUCH calcium deposit. I did some therapy which helped. I heard Dr. Joel Wallick, the mineral Dr., on the tape, "Dean Doctors Don't Lie,' and have since been using, on occassion, the Knox Gelatin Joint Formula. Any suggestions?
Thank You.
In Reply to: Cartlidge posted by Bill on February 26, 1998 at 15:41:02:
Bill,
I am very interested in why this happened to you. There are recent advances in cartilege regeneration, but they are a long way from being perfected. What do you think led to the loss of cartilege? Athletic activities? Age? I'm young and wanna keep my knees healthy.
-David