In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jeff Burgess on May 02, 1997 at 01:51:22:
Dear Jeff,
Call the technical support department of Metagenics Midwest with the questions both you & your wife might have about glucosamine relationships to other meds & normal human physiology: (800) 692-9400.
Please share what you learn with the rest of us.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by anil parikh on February 11, 1997 at 08:13:03:
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In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:17:32:
I have taken cosamine DS for about 2 weeks and have received total relief from stiffnes in my hands but I have developed severe pain behind both knee and stiffness in both legs and in my arms on the inside on the opposite side of the elbows.Could this be a side affect of these minerals?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Harvey Busch on May 08, 1997 at 12:10:32:
Dear Harvey,
What is in "cosamine DS"? I would suspect that it was just your body adjusting to the metabolic changes. I have seen this kind of thing many times when we were REALLY on the "right track" with our approach. It is normally a good sign not a bad one & is self limited after a few weeks.
However, without knowing what is in your product, I don't know what to say.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:12:31:
Are glucosamine and chondroitin safe for a breastfeeding mom?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jean Kanesh on May 10, 1997 at 06:24:52:
Dear Jean,
So far as I know, they are. However, I do not think you should just take MY word for this because of my limited experience with these compounds.
Call the technical support department of Metagenics Midwest at (800)692-9400 & ask them this question.
Please share with the rest of what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Duy Nguyen on March 12, 1997 at 02:51:39:
Dear Walt:
I have been reading most of the messages left in this site,
in order to avoid a question that had already been answered.
I have a bad knee, (already gone through surgery to cut off a part of a broken meniscous and)and it seem I have not recovered quite well. Besides that fact, my knee ligament
besides the knee cap is still weak due to the same injury (former soccer player).
For the last past 5 weeks I have been swimming and weight lifting but I still feel pain around my knee. A friend of mine have recomended me to us G.S. but I'm afraid to use it because I have just recently lost 10 pounds and I'm still 15 pounds overweighted. Overweight seems to be an important contributor of my knee's pain. Should I continue tacking G.S.? Thanks
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Juan Angel Ortiz Lazarin on May 10, 1997 at 13:15:14:
Dear Juan,
It seems to me that chondroitin sulfate is even more important to the process of this kind of healing than the gloucosamine is. Since they both work together, you might consider that.
What I would do, if I were you with this problem, would be to go to a local holistic veterinarian & explain the problem. Find out what he would do with an animal with a similar injury & surgical history. It may seem strange to suggest such a thing but the vets have a long history of using this stuff successfully. As a matter of fact, one of the major things pushing the reluctant conventional physicians to accept thie nonprescription approach IS the great success in veterinarian practice.
Finally, still one of the most important factors in recovery of your situation is the intensive physical therapy I am sure you have had recommended. Strict adherance to this regimen is one of the things that most patients DO NOT DO. I hope you are not one of them.
Professional athletes routinely resolve these recupe rations in record time BECAUSE their livelyhood depends upon it.
Let us know how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine side effects posted by Barry Carpenter on May 01, 1997 at 19:44:18:
I have experienced opposite side effects of severe gas and some loose stools since taking glucosamine/chondroitin complex for one week. does this usually continue?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine side effects posted by Allen Hornthal on May 12, 1997 at 13:48:46:
Dear Allen,
I hope you will not mind my butting in here.
Anyone can be sensitive to nearly anything taken orally, especially if that person has the increasingly common condition called leaky gut syndrome. If you are not aware of what that is, please look on the first page of this website at HTTP://BCN.NET/~STOLL & read the article about leaky gut syndrome. THEN, if this sounds like something you know about yourself, write here again & I can point you to where you can learn more about WHY you might have such an experience with glucosamine & chondroitin.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jeff Clark on April 30, 1997 at 09:59:05:
I have started taking glucosamine. Instructions are to take 1/2 hr before eating 3x a day. To remember to take before eating is difficult. Can I take just before or after I eat. What are the consequences?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by f. a. on February 07, 1997 at 17:26:57:
Has anyone heard anything about possibly contracting
mad cow disease from taking glucosamine sulfate since it is
derived from the trachea of a cow?
Thank you for any information.
Bruce
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:12:31:
Are glucosamine and chondroitin safe for a breastfeeding mom?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Bruce on May 18, 1997 at 12:12:29:
It's interesting to find your inquiry because I wondered if taking cartilege and possibly spinal tissue mixed with it would be risky. I hadn't heard that it was made from the trachea of a cow. It doesn't make sense since this is just soft tissue. I thought it was made from shark cartilege. Dr. Stoll?
Dave Kline
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Bruce on May 18, 1997 at 12:12:29:
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Bruce on May 18, 1997 at 12:12:29:
Dear Bruce,
Interesting question.
I would seriously doubt it since the molecule that seems to be transmitting "mad cow" is a very large one in comparison to the glucosamine molecule. If there were any in the preparation, the manufacturer could not say that the product was 100% glucosamine.
No one, yet, has contracted mad cow by drinking milk. The processes things like glucosamine would have to go through are more stringent than milk processing. This is not an exact simile but I would be reassured.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Helen Pilecki on May 14, 1997 at 09:11:16:
Husband taking glucosamine plus chondroitin ! He needs or so they say a Knee replacment.Has started having headaches on side of head. is glucosamine a hormone ? has anyone else had headache as side affect. taking for 3months now.
no pain in knee joint at all just limping.. Let me hear from some others who have similar problema !
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:12:31:
Are glucosamine and chondroitin safe for a breastfeeding mom?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Helen Pilecki on May 14, 1997 at 09:11:16:
Some confusion here, my question was about taking the glucosamine 1/2 hr. before eating. Can I take after. What would be the consequences? I have been taking it now for about 2 mos. and do not feel any better. Infact, there seems to be a flare up. Pain in feet and hands.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Bruce on May 18, 1997 at 12:12:29:
Well, how do we know when we have mad cow disease from using glucosamine?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by melinda coffman on February 10, 1997 at 23:15:54:
Melinda Coffman
I am interested in your research regarding glucosamine HCL versus
glucosamine sulfate. Can you give me any of your sources?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Walt Stoll on May 19, 1997 at 08:44:10:
If glucosamine is made from any part of an organism that is contaminated with "mad cow disease", the cell memory will have an excellent opportunity to proliferate in the human who is using the glucosamine. It may take years to develop but there are cases whihc have demonstrated such. I am not a vegetarian. At the same time I can see the drawbacks of a "cannibalistic situation".
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Melinda Coffman on February 11, 1997 at 15:34:32:
I have priced the product and the price seems pretty high for most working people's budgets. I have found reasonable sources of the chondroitin sulfate and the glucosamine HCl, but the only source I have found for manganese ascorbate sells it in minimum 30 Kg quantities for $25 per Kg. That's a total of $750 for a couple of dozen lifetimes worth. Does anyone have any idea where smaller quantities of manganese ascorbate can be procured? How about 8 or 10 people getting together to buy the 30 Kg? Any interest?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Susan Raper on April 30, 1997 at 09:30:07:
I just started using glucosamine at the recommendation of my pharmacist who said some users say it has helped their arthritis, usually after a few months of taking the capsules. I am interested in hearing from anyone who has used it for a period of time as to whether it has helped or not. I am 49 and a history of arthritis runs in my family. First symptoms have been thumb and big toe joints getting stiff and hurting in movements I used to do freely. I am anxious to do what I can to prevent further deterioration.
In Reply to: glucosamine posted by Martha Kent on November 28, 1996 at 20:07:59:
I apologize if this repeats an earlier question but is glucosamine sulfate permitted on the whole foods diet? Also is it appropriate for fibromyalgia pain and in presence of Grave's eye disease? What is recommended dosage? Thank You!
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by John Wood on April 18, 1997 at 22:46:46:
Is it true that ibuprofen can lead to further degradation of joints?
Is there a dose response relationship?
Also, someone just told me that ibuprofen may counteract the
effects of glucosamine. Is this true? Have you heard of
anyone successfully using glucosamine sulfate to treat
chondromalacia?
Thanks for your help!
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on May 01, 1997 at 11:22:24:
Walt, I was impressed with your answer until I got to the Doctors are criminals that people need to be protected from part of your message. I encourage people to get information about thier illness and yes the family physician cannot be an expert on everything, however the diatribe about physicians is really quite unnecessary. I would encourage patients to talk to theri doctors and also encourage them to seek information about arthritis from quality web sites. I would recommend that readers be on the lookout for the "HON" symbol which is sort of a Good Housekeeping seal of approval for quality Web sites. The HON symbol is fairly new so not all quality web sites have them - but look out...Bruce
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by bruce gordon on June 05, 1997 at 02:03:34:
Dear Bruce,
I AM an MD. I have seen this from the inside for more than 35 years. I DO know what I am talking about. If you want to be enlightened, you can read some of the references on my front page of the website about the medical anthropologists view of what I am saying. You take issue with this without a sufficient knowledge base.
I am not about to try to enlighten you. You will have to do that for yourself. If you choose to not do that now, please remember this exchange when you are forced into it in the future.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Helen Pilecki on May 20, 1997 at 14:31:28:
Dear Hellen,
You are a good example why I always say: "The resolution of ANY chronic problem will be something you DO not something you TAKE."
The BEST any of these things can do is give you some relief while you learn what to DO. They do not even do that in every case.
Look under my note about "undiagnosed condition", of June 7th, for what I would need to know to have better advice for you.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Ana on May 20, 1997 at 15:22:18:
Dear Ana,
There is, as yet, no good test for whether you have been infected. Since the prions can take as long as 20 years to show symptoms, our best bet right now is to be a strict vegetarian till this problem is resolved. This is not likely to happen soon since they are still not keeping beef off the market unless the animal shows obvious symptoms--which means that it has been spreading the disease for a very long time before that. This terrible time bomb is being foisted upon us just because of the economic problems if beef (or milk) were kept off the market till it was safe.
Read the best book about this: "Mad Cows & Milk Gate" by Virgil Hulse, MD. It is available in bookstores & libraries.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on April 27, 1997 at 11:58:23:
I took Feldene for osteoarthritis in my shoulders for about
two years. It worked fine, but ate a whole in my small
intestine. The doctor told me to avoid all NSAID'S, as they
might do the same again. I began taking gkucosamine/chondroiton
about three weeks ago. When should I expect results?
Thanks, William
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by William Faulkner on June 07, 1997 at 19:49:24:
Dear William,
Although you might notice results in a week or so, most of your results will not be there before about 3 months.
However, as I have said so many times: "The solution to any chronic diease will not be something you TAKE but something you DO." Even if you get complete relief from the glucosamine & chondroitin, it will not last forever without your learning about, & dealing with, the causes of your condition.
When you are ready to do that, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Celia Newman on June 01, 1997 at 23:09:37:
Dear Celia,
Please excuse my jumping in here. I would remind you of what I have said so many times: "The resolution of any chronic condition will never be something you TAKE but something you DO."
Taking many things can give temporary relief. Natural things tend to have fewer side effects & longer lasting relief. However, nothing you can take will keep working.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Nerissa on June 04, 1997 at 15:42:00:
Dear Nerissa,
Please excuse my jumping in here.
I just want to remind you of what I have said so many times: "Chronic conditions will never be resolved by something you TAKE but by something you DO."
ANYTHING you take, even though it may totally resolve your symptoms for a time, will not work forever. However, by LEARNING about your causes, & doing something about them, you will finally be free of the problem.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:12:31:
Are glucosamine and chondroitin safe for a breastfeeding mom?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jean Kanesh on June 09, 1997 at 09:20:44:
Dear Jean,
I know of no problem with this combination. HOWEVER, I would recommend that you call athe "horse's mouth" at (800) 692-9400 & ask the biochemist there.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 04, 1997 at 09:35:29:
I began taking a combination of chondroitin and glucosamine (200mg/250mg), 6 capsules per day about 2 weeks ago and have not experienced any relief for my osteoarthritis in the base of my thumbs. How long does it usually take to feel improvement by taking this supplement? Thank you.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Mary Gilleran on June 11, 1997 at 15:20:58:
Dear Mary,
SOME people get some results in a few weeks. However, the majority of benefit takes about 3 months.
However, I need to remind you here of something I have mentioned so many times on the BB: "Chronic problems will never be resolved by something one TAKES but by something one DOES."
That does not mean that you should not give this approach a try. However, even if it completely relieves your symptoms, it will not continue to work forever. EVENTUALLY, you will have to face the causes of your condition & do something about them. When you think yo are ready to do that, write again & I will be happy to work with you.
In the meantime, arthritis localized in the area you mention is always related to intracellular magnesium & B complex concentrations. You could profitably take 100 balanced B daily along with finding out about your intracellular magnesium (see my note in the first page of this website about fibromyositis).
All this is explained in greater depth in my new book.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Walt Stoll on June 07, 1997 at 13:10:42:
Is this really a possibility..getting mad cow disease
from taking glucosamine sulfate?
Pat
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Pat R. on June 14, 1997 at 12:00:49:
Dear Pat,
I don't think so but I do not know. That is why I suggested to the last person asking this that they contact the (800) 692-9400 number AND share with the rest of us what was learned.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by John on February 18, 1997 at 20:48:22:
Check out the book by Dr. Luke Bucci "Pain Free"
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1997 at 10:12:31:
Are glucosamine and chondroitin safe for a breastfeeding mom?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jean Kanesh on July 02, 1997 at 11:32:17:
Dear Jean,
I thought I had answered this several times in the past. If you are not one who got the message, here it is again:
I have no personal experience with this combination & pregnancy. I would be very surprised if there was any problem. However, you should not listen to me about this but call one of the "horse's mouths" about this--the head biochemist at Metagenics at (800) 692-9400--& ask him.
Please share what you learn with the rest of us.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by betty on May 19, 1997 at 19:48:46:
I have just discovered glucosamine,and when I mention it in company everyone seems to know about this wonderful drug.Now what I want to know is,after having a knee and hip replacement,and now the other hip starting to bother me,is it a waste of time to start on it now,I'm 67 yrs young,and would like to keep golfing
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by tony miller on July 06, 1997 at 20:22:29:
Dear Betty,
You probably cannot put off the surgery forever but you should at least be able to delay it a few years by doing the following:
I. Practicing an effective form of skilled relaxation 20 minutes twice a day forever.
2. Taking about 1500 milligrams of glucosamine daily
3. Taking at least 4000 milligrams of esterified vitamin C daily.
4. Taking 800 units of natural mixed tocopherols (vitamin E) daily; AND
5. Essential Oils as described in the note about that on the face page of this website AND explained in detail on page 56 of my book.
You should notice a significant improvement in your symptoms within a month & your maximun benefits within 3-6 months. If, when you finally still have to do the surgery, you will keep these things up until at least 6 weeks after the surgery, you will heal faster & more successfully than you will without them. There is no way that this can interfere in any way with any conventional approach.
Please let us know how you do. Others deserve to k now that people are not being given all of their options by the conventional medical monopoly.
Walt