In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by T.J. on November 28, 1997 at 07:43:28:
Dear T.J.,
Possibly. However, since this is so directly related to the psoriasis, one should deal with the connections & get rid of both.
The primary causes are due to LGS and the complicating Candida-Related Syndrome explained in so many of the posts on this BB over the past year.
Set up the "search" service & look for Psoriasis, Arthritis ans Leaky Gut Syndrome. THEN, if you still have questions write again so others might benefit from our exchange. Many of these articles are in the "archives". If you don't get enough information you might ask my son, Bill, to search the archives for the same stuff. That is a big job for him so don't ask lightly.
The resolution of conditions like this will never be something one TAKES but something one DOES. We would ALL like to find a magic pill. I'm afraid that will never be in the cards.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate side effects posted by J. Radomski, Ph.D. on November 28, 1997 at 23:28:22:
Dear J.,
Go to the drugstore & get a stool test kit to see if your darkening of the stool is blood. If it is, I would stop anything you are taking & see if it clears up. If it does, I would restart one thing at a time (at least a week apart) to see which thing does it. If it does not clear up, you need to see a conventional gastroenterologist for a diagnosis of where the blood is coming from.
If the stool test kit, repeated at least twice, does not show blood, I would not worry about it.
However, since there is no creditable research showing any benefits from chondroitin, taken orally, I would stop that just to save money.
Walt
In Reply to: glucosamine posted by Martha Kent on November 28, 1996 at 20:07:59:
Dear Martha,
I don't know. However, since it is not a pain pill, something good must be happening for the symptoms to be reduced.
Your idea about Beth's book is a good one. I will ask her if she wants me to do that. I have tried to recommend it in conditions where I know it would do the most good (like C-RS where is is invaluable). However, almost anyone eating the terrible American diet would significantly benefit from a few weeks of carefully following Beth's book. SO, I guess it would be valid to offer it as a general recommendtion.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Bonnie Tortora on December 29, 1996 at 12:08:40:
Dear Bonnie,
Glucosamine HCL is only superior to glucosamine sulfate in that it is cheaper to produce. ALL the research I have seen says that the HCL form is not effective at all. At this point, any company that includes glucosamine HCL in any product would be suspect to me.
Any side effects of glucosamine sulfate would be a lot less than taking any NSAID (aspirin , ibuprophen, etc.). Besides, the current theory about how it works to relieve symptoms is that it actually is repairing the joint in some way. ALL NSAIDS actually cause the currently accepted cause of arthritic conditions to worsen.
If I were you, I would give 1500 milligrams of pure glucosamine sulfate (daily) a try & see what happens. I would also read the notes about arthritis, fibromyositis, etc., that we have on the BB for the past few months.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine & chondroitin posted by mdailey on September 20, 1997 at 15:41:08:
I just heard about the merits of Glucosamine sulfate and Chondroitin.Is it necessary to take them together ? Are they
papers published by recognized US medical schools ? What are
the pros and cons ? Any side effects on the liver, the kidneys , the intestines ? I wouyld appreciate hearing from anyone who has info on this subject. Many thanks.MA.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by jack levantino on June 01, 1997 at 01:04:31:
I just bought Glucosamine Sulfate 670. I have had a triple bypass so there was something that is usually taken with this that they said I shouldn't take. I want this for chronic pain. Please tell me a little about it and what it does. Thanks.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Toni on April 18, 1997 at 02:44:55:
Dear Toni,
The book you see mentioned (link below) is not what you need for this kind of research. However, as I have said so many times: Chronic peoblems like arthritis will never be resolved by something you TAKE but by something you DO. When she is ready to stop looking for a "magic pill" & actually get rid of her problem--THEN the book is what she will want.
In the meantime, I have offered an (800) 692-9400 technical support # for Metagenics Midwest where you could get the most specific information about glucosamine.
Your grandmother will find that, even if the glucosamine helps her, within a couple of years (at most) it will no longer work unless she has--in the meantime--done something about her causes.
Please share what you learn, from the (800) number above, with the BB participants.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Ana on May 01, 1997 at 09:58:44:
Dear Ana,
Possibly but the results will be temporary unless one does something about the causes of DDD. For those interested in getting rid of the causes, start by reading a copy of my book (link below).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine (and chondroitin sulfates) posted by Jonah Frohlich on November 18, 1997 at 17:30:42:
Dear Jonah,
Possibly, but problems like this will never be resolved by something you TAKE but by something you DO. When you are ready to go beyond a "magic pill" a good start would be a copy of my book (link below).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine (and chondroitin sulfates) posted by Jonah Frohlich on November 18, 1997 at 17:30:42:
Dear Jonah,
By the way, there are no publicaitons in the world literature that chondroitin, orally, does anything. I would just take the pure glucosamine sulfate, 1500 milligrams a day, to see what it would do. Then, if it helped, I would get busy learning how to reverse the causes.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine & chondroitin posted by maurice asa on November 29, 1997 at 18:24:33:
Dear Maurice,
Ask your veterinarian and forget the chondroitin.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Charlotte on November 29, 1997 at 20:00:30:
Dear Charlotte,
Use the search feature on this BB & read everything about glucosamine and glucosamine side effects. Then, if you have any further questions please write again.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Martha Kent on November 29, 1996 at 16:11:21:
Dear Martha,
Glucosamine is not metabolized as glucose & should have no relationship to candida.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Ralph Priestman on February 03, 1997 at 11:34:49:
Dear Ralph,
Your testimonial is a great example of why the present conventional medical monopoly in this country MUST be destroyed.
The answer to your question is that it cannot be patented, is available without a prescription and works pretty well.
All of this is considered competition to the conventional monopoly. Why, even your health food store owner can recommend you try it. The poor MD is cut out of the loop.
The next thing you will see is the FDA find a reason to take it off the market. You can bet the system is working on that right now. Tryptophan is a good example of how the system could deal with a safe & effective alternative to the sedative & sleeping pill prescription business.
Good questions! They are the ones that need to be asked by EVERYONE. The reason I wrote my book (link below) the way I did is to stimulate people to ask those questions once they see that simple, safe & inexpensive approaches work for chronic problems not well dealt with by the MD monopoly.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by mdailey on September 20, 1997 at 15:31:32:
Dear Mr. Stoll,
I to have been researching Glucosamine sulfate & Chondroitin
Sulfate, & I have read some of your responses & comments to this subject. I would not take your ill responsive comments
nor would I bother to buy a book written by a moron.
In Reply to: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by sanb on August 25, 1997 at 15:35:20:
I have been taking glucosamine sulfate and niacinimide along with other suppliments. I take glucosamine 3 x a day and the nacinimide 4 x a day. I dont realize any side effects. Are there any that I should be aware of? My GP advised me to take them. I seem to notice when I skip a day or I can feel some joint aches.
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Beverly Szeszycki on October 14, 1997 at 00:07:02:
This product was recomended by my Grandmother who had very bad pain in her knee. She said it releved the pain in her knee and she can walk normally now.
I have tendonitis in both elbows from doing repetitive work.
I have pain and stiffness in my arms after sleeping. The pain and stiffness goes away after I am up a while. I thought that I would try Glucosamine sulfate. I have taken it for two days now. 500mg once a day. I want to know if there any bad side effects, before I take it too long??
In Reply to: Glucosamine Sulfate side effects posted by John La Morgia on August 07, 1997 at 19:04:47:
I would like to ask if glucosamine sulfate should be taken before, with of after meals.
Also if there is any problem for pregnant and/or greast-feedinf mothers, and children.
Thanks a lot.
Sebastian
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by PMetzger on December 02, 1997 at 02:50:31:
Dear P.,
For what problem are you taking glucosamine?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Megatec on December 02, 1997 at 09:26:43:
Dear Megatec,
NO bad side effects.
However, neither will glucosamine, alone, be the solution to this kind of chronic problem.
You will at least need to learn about skilled relaxation, vitamin E, magnesium and B6 as well as flexibility exercises and Leaky Gut Syndrome.
Let us know, here on the BB, when you are ready to learn about them.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Larry Pope on September 02, 1997 at 01:32:36:
What in the world is "leaking gut syndrome"?
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate side effects posted by sebastian badosa on December 03, 1997 at 03:00:10:
Hi Sebastian,
I just called the nutritionist at Metagenics (800-692-9400). They make their glucosamine sulfate from crab shells. They say across the board there are zero side-effects, except for people who are allergic to shellfish. In that case there is a risk of anaphylactic shock. I did not ask about any additional considerations for pregnant women.
They also say that other providers may make their glucosamine a different way, and that a different method may result in a different answer.
Bill
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate side effects posted by sebastian badosa on December 03, 1997 at 03:11:50:
Hi Sebastian,
Metagenics says their glucosamine sulfate is best taken between meals. If taken with meals, the body tends to treat it as food material and it loses its therapeutic value.
You might want to call them at 800-692-9400 if you have other questions, and please share the results here. I'm trying to put together a glucosamine "frequently asked questions" list.
Bill
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Diane on December 03, 1997 at 15:23:53:
Hi Diane,
Check out this article on Dr Stoll's site for an intro to Leaky Gut Syndrome.
Bill
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Diane on December 03, 1997 at 15:23:53:
Der Diane,
Read what I have on my homepage (link on this page) about this. I cover it in depth in my new book (link below). If you use the search feature of this BB, you can read everything I have had to say about it for the past 2 months. I have been diagnosing patients with this condition, & successfully treating them, for the past at least 15 years.
There is a pretty good article about it in last week's Newsweek (2 Pages).
Once you have done the homework above, if you still have questions, write again here on the BB. If you have questions so must many others. There is only one of me & millions of you out there with this condition.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by lee on December 01, 1997 at 19:49:00:
dear lee,
i am currently taking glucosamine and i would like to know what your research has uncovered. would you please post a
brief summary of your findings?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Jeff Clark on April 30, 1997 at 09:59:05:
I have been directed to search both positive & negative therapeutic results with Glucosimide.
Please respond in kind to: CiscoAYR@juno.com.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by sebastian badosa on November 07, 1997 at 07:18:15:
Have any clincal trials been done on glucosamine? What are the adverse effects to taking this drug? Are there any risks?
Thanks, Maria
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by John on November 24, 1997 at 05:49:52:
I am a 16yr.old fm runner who has had knee problems since I
started running 3yrs ago. Would this supplement help me? Is
it bad for my age? Are there any side effects at all? long
term or short term. How much would I have to take?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Elyse on December 05, 1997 at 20:43:55:
Der Elyse,
If you are having knee problems already, you have a genetic susceptibility and will eventually have to give up running. It would be better to do it before suffering permanent damage.
You would be someone who should take up swimming as that would heal your knees & never cause you any permanent trouble.
Glucosamine might just help. However, it will not be a permanent benefit and you would be encouraged to continue running--the wrong thing for you to do.
Sorry to be the bearer of "bad" news. However, you will look back on this as a valid gentle warning.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate A side effects? posted by Pastor Chuck Burks on September 19, 1997 at 21:18:40:
I started taking Glocosamine/Chondroitin and also began experiencing slight depression and low energy, so I discontinued taking it. I am a very energetic 50 year old woman and this feeling of depresssion was not pleasant at all. I have been living with arthritis for many years and have been taking 600mg Motrin twice a day and sometines three times a day. So far, I have not found anything else that can help me more that Motrin. Hope there is something new and effective soon.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Larry Pope on September 02, 1997 at 02:39:01:
Have suffered migranes for many years. Have tried most everything from imatrex to acupunture. Would like your info on glucosamine. Thanks.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine posted by Barb Jones on December 09, 1997 at 19:53:01:
Dear Barb,
As you know, fully 90% of all headaches diagnosed as "migraine" are misdiagnosed.
How do YOU know that YOUR diagnosis is correct?
You might look on the homepage of this website (link on this page) & read about Vascular Headaches, If you even have a vascular type headache (Migraine headaches are just one of many types of vascular headaches) you will find a quick & reliable solution to the symptoms there.
If, once you start thinking critically about this--& not just taking your "doctor's word about it--you figure out that your headaches are not even vascular, write again & I will be happy to help you figure out what kind of headache you DO have & what resources you might use to finally resolve them.
Headaches are among the easiest conditions to resolve just by dealing with the causes.
As you get well, sharing your experiences with the BB participants will help others understand that headaches are totally unnecessary.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate A side effects? posted by Stan S. on July 20, 1997 at 11:19:57:
My dad is 66 and has been taking the chondriton and glucosamine sulfate for dibilitating arthritis. After 4 weeks he was feeling 100% better, then he switched to a combination pill which contained both. He immediately felt worse than ever. Is there a difference in taking the one in all verses seperately taking one of each?
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine and mad cow disease posted by Ana on May 20, 1997 at 15:22:18:
I am doing a research paper on BSE and would greatly appriciate any information that you could send me as soon as possible on this subject.
Thank you
April S. Tyndall
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine side effects posted by Allen Hornthal on May 12, 1997 at 13:48:46:
I have experienced gas pains and bloating since taking Glucosamine & Chondroitin sulfates. Unfortunately, I want to continue taking them because they have helped my knee pain and, to a lesser degree, joint problems in my feet. If I take them on a fuller stomach, sometimes it's not as bad.
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate A side effects? posted by Nivia Guidi-Komer on December 08, 1997 at 13:21:28:
Dear Nivia,
Have you tried DL-phenylalanine? It is an amino acid health supplement that works very well on chronic pain such as arthritis by helping your body's natural endorphins. It can also be taken along with your Motrin for added results. Once you have pain relief, you can reduce your dose and may be able to take only as needed.
Good Luck!
Don
P.S. In addition to other manufacturers, we at The Nutrition Farm offer DLPAin DL-phenylalanine capsules and information about how it works. Our customers have made this our number 2 best selling product so it does work.
In Reply to: Re: tendonitis posted by Me on December 10, 1997 at 15:45:51:
Glucosamine sulfate , is used by many rock climbers ,to help in the healing of tendonitis of the elbows, and finger joint pain.although some say it works, some also claim it does not. If you do try it ,as with anything you get what pay for.There are many diferent brands out there ,some better than others ,so ask around befor buying,this stuff is NOT cheap but 90% of the people I've talked to swear by it,including coaches /trainers and many people who have been a long time suffer'. As well as the Glucosamine there is also shark cartalidge .
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate A side effects? posted by B. Brown on December 11, 1997 at 01:50:42:
Dear B.,
Different company? Are you sure that both were the sulfate form of the glucosamine?
It shouldn't matter if they are in the same pill (capsule) or taken separately.
By the way, the research I have seen says that chondroitin is not effective orally and thet the IV form is too dangerous.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine side effects posted by Michele on December 11, 1997 at 11:25:52:
Dewar Michele,
I would first try taking the glucosamine alone. All the research I have seen says that the chondroitin doesn't work orally & is too dangerous to take intravenously.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Walt Stoll on December 03, 1997 at 10:20:59:
I am taking an equal blend of Glucosamine and Condroitin sulfates with vitamin C and manganese to relieve an osteo arthritic condition.Is there any posibility that this combination can act as a blood thinner?
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by I Weiss on December 12, 1997 at 15:31:16:
Dear I.,
Not that I know of. However you would get the definitive answer by calling (800) 692-9400.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Larry Pope on September 02, 1997 at 01:32:36:
I just had a total hip replaced, been taking Glucosamine Hydrochloide 1500mg and Chondroitin Sulfate 1200mg
combination. Sold and manufactured by Amerfit 166 Highland Park Drive, Bloomfield CT 06002. The hip was damaged beyond repair.
Is there a difference between Hydrochloide and Sulfate? Intend to continue the medicine.
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by John Pearson on December 16, 1997 at 16:25:22:
Dear John,
I still have seen no research that says the hydrochloride form is worth anything. The only reason I can see for it being on the market is that is is cheaper & is riding the success of the sulfate form.
Remember, the statistics are that (if the person believes in a medication) there is a 70% placebo effect.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate Side Effects posted by Walt Stoll on December 03, 1997 at 10:24:40:
I have a complete rupture of my ACL and an almost complete rupture of my LCL. Will glucosamine sulfate be of benefit to my condition? I do not want to have reconstructive surgery
In Reply to: Re: glucosamine side effects posted by Dave Bryan on November 11, 1997 at 22:12:51:
Re: your concern about eye problem when taking glucosamine.
I am 68 with no family history of macular degeneration and no physical condition that would be likely to lead to it.
After about 5 months on 1500 mgs of glucosamine a day and 1200 mgs of chondroitin I developed quite rapidly "wet" macular degeneration which has required two laser surgeries in an attempt to stop the progression of this disease. I have seen no other reference to macular degeneration as a side effect. Would appreciate hearing from anyone who can shed further light on this subject.
In Reply to: Re: Glucosamine Sulfate posted by Janet Bangs on December 18, 1997 at 11:28:09:
Dear Janet,
With this kind of damage, I know of nothing that will avoid reconstructive sugery & the sooner the better.
However, there are a number of things that you can do to improve your outcome AND prevent future injuries. Among those, from a conventional standpoint, is the rehabilitation progrem the surgeon will recommend. You need to do AT LEAST as much as s/he will recommend. The reason that professional athletes get back to playing so soon is a lot more due to their efforts at the post-op rehab than it is due to the skill of the surgeon!
The other things I would consider, were I in your situation, are the following:
1. Learn an effective skilled relaxation technique & practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day. This will not only speed up your recovery but prevent future injuries. If you want to know HOW this works, write again.
2. Get an intracellular magnesium level done at a competent lab for this procedure BY a professional who knows enough were to order it AND what to do about the results. To get the background about this use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about fibromyositis, arthritis and the like.
3. Start at least 4000 miligrams of esterified vitamin C, 400 units of vitamin E and 1000 milligrams of a chelated zinc preparation, daily , at least 2 weeks before surgery and 3 months after. This is to promote healing from the surgery. As your surgeon exclaims to you how fast you are healing (IF s/he has an open mind) you might share what you did. There are some surgeons out there who care enough about their patients welfare to learn something new.
As you learn more about this, you may elect to continue a maintenance dosage of these specific nutrients to help prevent future problems.
The glucosamine may well add to the benefits from the things listed above. I have not seen research supporting this. There is no reasearch denying it either. There is just no research in glucosamine assisting with post-op progression of healing. It can't hurt but it is not going to heal what you have without surgery.
Let us know how you do.
Walt