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I have been dating a guy for a few weeks now and I noticed in his bathroom that he had a prescription for Valtrex, a drug to prevent outbreaks of genital herpes.
This might explain the red bumps that have been appearing on my inner thighs. I haven't noticed anything on my penis or testicles yet, only my inner thighs.
Can anyone please tell me if HSV-2 (the virus that causes genital herpes) can be cured, one way or another??? Valtrex only lessens outbreaks; it does not cure the virus or prevent its spread.
Thank you kindly.
In Reply to: Genital Herpes - Please Help posted by Rubio on March 07, 2002 at 11:01:43:
There is no cure. Herpes is managed through stress reduction, dietitary modifications, etc. The drugs suppress or minimize outbreaks.
In Reply to: Genital Herpes - Please Help posted by Rubio on March 07, 2002 at 11:01:43:
Good news. It can be cured. See the link below.
Walking In The Light,
Gregory
In Reply to: Genital Herpes - Please Help posted by Rubio on March 07, 2002 at 11:01:43:
First of all, your boyfriend could be taking Valtrex for oral HSV-1. You need to ask your boyfriend why he is taking Valtrex prior to you jumping to the conclusion that he has genital herpes. If you are sleeping with this individual, your communication should be much more honest and open than it appears to be. Whether he has oral herpes or genital, he should have disclosed with information to you prior to intimate contact and the breech of trust is a whole other problem for the two of you now.
Yes, the bumps on your thighs could be related to HSV but you cannot be certain unless you receive a proper diagnosis. If you do have genital herpes, outbreaks can happen anywhere within the "boxer short" area due to the set of nerves affected by the virus.
One more point, if your boyfriend has oral HSV-1, you can acquire that virus in your genitals via oral sex even if he has no apparent lesions (asymptomatic shedding). In the same, you can acquire HSV-2 despite condom and/or antiviral medication.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help (Help Is Here) posted by Gregory on March 07, 2002 at 13:09:03:
I didn't see on that page that BHT cures herpes. It only talked about putting people in remission. It also talked about many precautions, so BHT seems to be something that shouldn't be taken lightly.
There's another source that claims to eliminate herpes virus -- http://www.neveranoutbreak.com. I haven't had experience with it or know anyone personally who has. Fortunately, I don't have the virus, to the best of my knowledge.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help (Help Is Here) posted by Gregory on March 07, 2002 at 13:09:03:
Please be careful when using the word "cure" for herpes. There is NO cure at the present and unlikely that there will be one in the future. Vaccine perhaps.....
This virus is an epidemic in the United States as well as around the world. In the US, 1 in 4 adults have genital HSV-2 and 60-90% of the population has oral HSV-1. Most people do not know they have herpes! The majority have no idea that they can spread the virus even when symptoms are not present. This is called asymptomatic shedding and the reason why the number of infections increase yearly. The above percentages do not include the increasing number of gental HSV-1 infections that are generally transmitted via oral sex.
If the communication on this virus starts to flow and the stigma behind it diminishes, the number of infections per year may begin to decline. Putting the virus in remission is in no way, shape or form a cure.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help posted by Answers for you on March 07, 2002 at 13:38:08:
The old rule of "oral HSV is type 1" no longer applies. EITHER TYPE (1 or 2) CAN OCCUR IN EITHER PLACE.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help (Help Is Here) posted by An answer for you on March 07, 2002 at 18:08:32:
What you said reminds me of what modern allopathic doctors say about cancers. I'd rather people say that they know of no cure for xyz.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help (Help Is Here) posted by An answer for you on March 07, 2002 at 18:08:32:
Even though the contents of the article deals with remission, The book
mentioned Wipe Out Herped With BHT is about a CURE. I have read the
book and understand that protocol
given is followed, a cure can be effected.
Perhaps you should peruse some of the articles on the CERI website before
crushing someone's hope of a cure that has actually existed for quite some time.
AGIMW,
Gregory
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help (Help Is Here) posted by R. on March 07, 2002 at 15:05:47:
You are absolutely right .. this is the internet ...
There is no known CURE for herpes
Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) is commonly used as an antioxidant to prolong shelf life in foodstuffs, but in extremely low concentrations. High concentrations promote the formation of free radicals and the formation of BHT-metabolites that induce tissue damage and tumour formation. The fat solubility of BHT is in fact a liability.
I could only find 1 article in MEDLINE (from 1966-2001) re BHT and herpes and even these authors aren't sure if it is a CURE:
Treatment of recurrent herpes simplex labialis with topical butylated hydroxytoluene.
Freeman DJ, Wenerstrom G, Spruance SL
Clin Pharmacol Ther 1985 Jul 38:1 56-9
I did find 306 articles regarding BHT toxicity (listed just a few):
Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) induction of pulmonary inflammation: a role in tumor promotion.
Bauer AK, Dwyer_Nield LD, Keil K, Koski K, Malkinson AM
Exp Lung Res 2001 Apr-May 27:3 197-216
Studies using structural analogs and inbred strain differences to support a role for quinone methide metabolites of butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) in mouse lung tumor promotion.
Thompson JA, Carlson TJ, Sun Y, Dwyer_Nield LD, Malkinson AM
Toxicology 2001 Mar 7 160:1-3 197-205
Oxidative DNA damage and apoptosis induced by metabolites of butylated hydroxytoluene.
Oikawa S, Nishino K, Oikawa S, Inoue S, Mizutani T, Kawanishi S
Biochem Pharmacol 1998 Aug 1 56:3 361-70
Inhibition by butylated hydroxytoluene and its oxidative metabolites of DMBA-induced mammary tumorigenesis and of mammary DMBA-DNA adduct formation in vivo in the female rat.
Singletary KW, Nelshoppen JM, Scardefield S, Wallig M
Food Chem Toxicol 1992 Jun 30:6 455-65
DNA cleavage by metabolites of butylated hydroxytoluene.
Nagai F, Ushiyama K, Kano I
Arch Toxicol 1993 67:8 552-7
Review: putative mutagens and carcinogens in foods. III. Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT).
Malkinson AM
Environ Mutagen 1983 5:3 353-62
SO be careful with BHT
Greg
(Biochemist/Cell Biologist)
In Reply to: Au contraire. . . posted by Better answers for you on March 07, 2002 at 19:18:19:
You should reread my post. I said that it is now known that Type-1 CAN infect the genitals. However, it remains Type-1 in the genitals and is in no way the same as Type-2. The herpes simplex type-1 and type-2 are similar in that they share 50% of their DNA but they are different viruses.
In Reply to: Cure means C U R E. If I had meant posted by Gregory on March 07, 2002 at 22:49:22:
Perhaps you should quit giving people false hope. The truth remains that there is NO cure for the herpes virus but it's wonderful if it can be put in remission. However, it's important to tell people that even if the virus is in remission, it can still be spread from one individual to another (especially for HSV-2 which sheds much more frequently than HSV-1).
The majority of people do not know they have the virus and many find out when they inadvertently spread it to another person. By all accounts the person without symptoms was obviously in remission and without symptoms but still able to spread it.
Due to the complicated process that takes place when the virus enters the body, entangles itself in the cell DNA, and hides out from our immune system for life, it's difficult to find a cure at this time. It is believed that a vaccine is right around the corner and that's good news for everybody!!!!!
I realize that hearing that herpes is incurable is difficult but it's the truth and sometimes that hurts.
In Reply to: You are right .. posted by GregD on March 08, 2002 at 08:34:15:
I guess that it's really hard for people to accept that there is no cure for herpes at this time (or any other virus for that matter). Changing the wording such as, "there is no known cure AT THIS TIME" may make some people feel more comfortable...but how one words it doesn't change the truth and fact is still fact. I don't doubt that one day there will be a cure for viruses but it doesn't appear to be in the near future.
The information on BHT you provided is excellent. I think that everyone should make an informed decision prior to putting any substance into their bodies. BHT does sound beneficial and I hope those that do try it have success.
In Reply to: Re: Genital Herpes - Please Help posted by Answers for you on March 07, 2002 at 13:38:08:
In Reply to: Re: Cure means C U R E. If I had meant posted by Answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 10:58:19:
"The majority of people do not know they have the virus. . "
No, transmission from viral shedding, while it does occur, is relatively rare. The majority of viral transmissions occur when a weeping lesion is present.
In Reply to: You are right .. posted by GregD on March 08, 2002 at 08:34:15:
is safe for most people to take as long as the recommended dose (1 gram per day) is not exceeded AND provided that they do not have pre-existing liver problems. Everyone advocating the use of BHT (especially the CERI guy, whom I just talked with via phone about this extensively) stresses the importance of obtaining liver enzyme tests while undergoing this therapy.
In Reply to: Thanks Greg posted by An answer for you on March 08, 2002 at 12:08:27:
I seriously doubt that pharmaceutical companies will launch any drug to eradicate herpes during my lifetime. It is too lucrative for them ($5-billion-per-year business) to have everyone take chronic, lifelong suppression meds. Frankly, when was the last time ANY disease was CURED?? With modern medical technology what it is I don't believe for one second that they don't know how to cure this one -- this virus has been around since the evolution of vertebrates.
In Reply to: Wrong again! posted by Better answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 13:58:02:
You are soooo wrong! Asymptomatic shedding is why
HSV-2 has increased 30% in the last 30 years.
Oh my goodness, you really need to do some research! I study viruses for a living and obviously have much more knowledge than you.
In Reply to: Where? Reread your own post!!! nmi posted by Better answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 13:55:56:
You are hardly worth my time but my last sentence in my initial post states that HSV-1 CAN be spread to the genitals!!!!!!!!!!! You should be armed with the proper information prior to posting!!!!!!!!! You have been extremely rude in your responses and for that I have zero respect!
In Reply to: No cure posted by Better answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 14:02:48:
I'll continue on with your rudeness and state that pharmaceutical companies are not the only ones researching a cure for viruses. There's hundreds of billions of dollars to be made on a cure considering that millions upon millions of people worldwide are inflicted with the herpes virus alone. A cure would also help with many of the viruses humans are infected with.
If there was a known cure at this time, we would certainly know about it!!!
In Reply to: Better answers for you....the name is hardly fitting! posted by An answer for you on March 09, 2002 at 00:33:29:
There are two or three instances where there is a cure AND you won't
hear of it. Such was the case of colloidal silver for example, which
has recently been put on the FDA's black list because it actually works,
it's cheap to make *yourself* and there's no way to "patent" it.
This article details the FDA's strong arm tactics. Just because a CURE is
available, doesn't mean you are going to hear about it. Just the
opposite in fact. As far as the pharmaceutical companies are concerned
a drug is only as useful as its ability to be endlessly recycled through
the general population (treatment) WITHOUT doing permanent good (CURE).
If there was a known cure at this time, we would certainly NOT know about it!!!
In Reply to: Paleeeeze! posted by An answer for you on March 09, 2002 at 00:23:40:
Hostile Research & Forbidden Cures
AGIMW,
Gregory
In Reply to: Re: Cure means C U R E. If I had meant posted by Answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 10:58:19:
Thanks, Answers.
The fact is that there is no "cure" for ANY viral infection.
They are ALL just put in hybernation by our immune system. See the archives about the immune system and about viruses.
I got herpes type 1 from my second wife 20 years ago. It was just when I was learning about how to boost my immune system and so, after a 6 month bout with it I have not had another breakout for 19 years.
Anyone willing to practice serious wellness for a year will have an immune system powerful enough to put a herpesvirus in jail so long as it is kept up. It is just that herpes is harder to keep from escaping from the cell (jail) than those childhood diseases.
That is good a cure as the "cure" of a lifelong immunity to any childhood disease.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Cure means C U R E. If I had meant posted by Answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 10:58:19:
Thanks, Answers.
The fact is that there is no "cure" for ANY viral infection.
They are ALL just put in hybernation by our immune system. See the archives about the immune system and about viruses.
I got herpes type 1 from my second wife 20 years ago. It was just when I was learning about how to boost my immune system and so, after a 6 month bout with it I have not had another breakout for 19 years.
Anyone willing to practice serious wellness for a year will have an immune system powerful enough to put a herpesvirus in jail so long as it is kept up. It is just that herpes is harder to keep from escaping from the cell (jail) than those childhood diseases.
That is good a cure as the "cure" of a lifelong immunity to any childhood disease.
Walt
In Reply to: Then you won't mind evaluating this information. posted by Gregory on March 09, 2002 at 06:50:27:
what is AGIMW?
Thanks again Gregory!
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In Reply to: No cure posted by Better answers for you on March 08, 2002 at 14:02:48:
First
you assume that only pharmaceutical companies investigate viral infections and their possible cure .. what about us?? Free and independent scientist, working for NON-PROFIT institutes?? Come on .. not everything revolves around pharmaceutical companies .. the majority of scientific and medical advances does not come from pharmaceutical companies…. our institute recently discovered, developed and published a new therapy for particular cancers, based on cis-platina ... only NOW .. a pharmaceutical company is interested in producing (we have the patents) it under license (and yes they do see $-signs, or should I say Euro-signs).
Second .. do you have any idea how a virus works??? It has no respiration (in the biological sense, meaning a respiratory complex of proteins in which some molecule, often oxygen, sulfur or nitrogen conpound, is used as terminal electron acceptor in the production of energy in the form of ATP), no metabolism, no autonomous reproduction, just some RNA or DNA and protein .. It really be needs a host cell in order to use or should I say abuse the cells "machinery" to reproduce itself.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to interfere with the infection-path way using drugs, without destroying the host cell ..
I mean .. its not a bacterium, who's own metabolism can be disturbed with antibiotics without interfering with the metabolism of the host organism. It's more complicated than that.
Third,
The one company or scientist who develops an effective treatment will be covered for the rest of his life, with so many people world wide suffering from viral infections (big $$$$$) ... it would basically wipe out all the competition if the company retains the exclusive rights.. possibly even providing the first step to curing viral diseases, such as AIDS, EBV, SV40, HTLV, Ebola, etc etc (even more big $$$$$)
NO CURE at this time means NO CURE ... that doesn't mean that hundreds of scientists all over the world in academia or within companies aren't spending long hours in the lab to come up with it
PLEASE...if MDs want to be slaves of the pharma companies, then the problem lies there .. not with us, who genuinely do this research, not only to satisfy our curiosity and to further scientific knowledge, but also because of an idealism .. to provide solutions to health problems. Believe me .. I have had my share of disappointments with MDs or I wouldn't be on this board .. so don't get me wrong
GregD
(Biochemist/Cell biologist)
In Reply to: Wrong assumptions posted by GregD on March 09, 2002 at 14:00:21:
I just wanted to thank you again for helping to provide accurate information. It's very dangerous when people state misinformation.
In Reply to: HELLOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! posted by An answer for you on March 09, 2002 at 00:27:12:
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