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Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep

Posted by KMD on September 10, 2000 at 21:57:30:

Hi everyone,

I came down with what seemed to be a cold several days ago, and I was able to ward it off for the most part with Vitamin C, zinc lozenges, and humidity. I never got many symptoms, and never even got a runny nose. What I DID end up with is a scratchy throat and for the last few days a cough. In the mornings it is the worst, and I cough up some stuff before I can go on with the day. Most of the day it lies dormant, and then when I go to bed now it is acting up whenever I lay down.

This has happened to me for YEARS with every cold I catch. I get this dry hacking cough that I cannot stifle at all whenever I lie down. I assume that lying down causes whatever post-nasal drip to tickle the throat and making the coughing reflex active. No matter what I try, I cannot stop coughing. Sitting upright helps a lot, but I cannot sleep that way.

In the past I have always had to resort to cough suppressant medications, and sometimes ones that contain codeine, but I would like to know what the alternatives are this time.

THANKS!!



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep

Posted by
Vince F on September 11, 2000 at 01:08:18:

In Reply to: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by KMD on September 10, 2000 at 21:57:30:

I have had a cough that happened while I slept so I didn't
gargle with my cayenne/salt cure and it spread to my
esophogus or lungs. i finally started to treat it and it has
moved back and forth but is geting better but I still get
a sensation in my chest but sinus meds chase that so it
seems like mucus is causing the sensation making me cough. I
can feel it when I go to get up or move. I would say, do
what works to relieve the symproms.

VF



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep

Posted by Karen on September 11, 2000 at 08:32:43:

In Reply to: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by KMD on September 10, 2000 at 21:57:30:

I hope I am not making "light" of your situation, but if it's nothing more serious than a cough due to a simple cold, I SWEAR by Nyquil when I go to bed -- it's a liquid so it helps "coat" the itchy throat, it has all the good cough suppressant stuff, and it's got a little kick to knock you out and help you sleep. :)

Also, try sleeping on your stomach instead of your back -- when I have the symptoms you do (persistent cough and/or congestion in the nose), I find it helps.

Good luck,
Karen



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep

Posted by Rosemarie on September 11, 2000 at 09:42:14:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by Vince F on September 11, 2000 at 01:08:18:

Try gargling with straight Hydrogen peroxide when it happens. Sometimes that kills the irritation.

Good luck!
Rosemarie



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep

Posted by
June on September 11, 2000 at 11:40:54:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by Karen on September 11, 2000 at 08:32:43:

I think I'd have to be desperate to go the Nyquil route.

But I was shopping for lozincges (zinc & vitamin C throat lozenges) last week and found, from KAL, Ester-C Lozincges with Vitamin A & Slippery Elm. The zinc is said to provide nutritive support for maintaining a normal healthy throat, Vitamin A is touted as having effects on the respiratory tract & mucous membranes and Slippery Elm is a well-known throat soothing traditional herbal remedy. I am going through serious fall allergies with awful throat drainage and my comfort level is drastically improved after sucking on one of these. It is sweetened and flavored (natural orange flavor) so it may contain ingredients that not everybody here would like. It was around $8 for a bottle of 75 lozenges.

June



Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Maybe I will stick with the cough suppresants. (NMI)

Posted by KMD on September 11, 2000 at 13:57:03:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by Rosemarie on September 11, 2000 at 09:42:14:

NMI



Re: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Maybe I will stick with the cough suppresants. (NMI)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 12, 2000 at 09:56:47:

In Reply to: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Maybe I will stick with the cough suppresants. (NMI) posted by KMD on September 11, 2000 at 13:57:03:

Hi, Kathy.

You have been getting good ideas from ao many people I haven't felt the need to interject--until now.

HOWEVER, remember that expectorants are MUCH more physiological AND much more conducive of eliminating the causes than supressants are--see the cold chapter in my book. Coughs do not happen just to annoy you! They happen because either there is something to cough up (wet cough) OR, in your case, because of an irritant in the tubes (dry cough).

The expectorant loosens up the cough so that you can wash away the irritant. All the suppressant does is keep it there. Using the supressant, alone, is EXACTLY like taping over the warning lights on the dashboard.

Namaste`

Walt



Thanks Walt, so it's OK to take a combination of cough suppressant/expectorant so I can sleep, right? (NMI)

Posted by KMD on September 12, 2000 at 13:27:17:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Maybe I will stick with the cough suppresants. (NMI) posted by Walt Stoll on September 12, 2000 at 09:56:47:

NMI



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough...Poss. GERD?

Posted by
TonyB on September 12, 2000 at 13:36:11:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by Karen on September 11, 2000 at 08:32:43:

I haven't read all the info on your situation...but I'm wondering if you have looked into the possibility of gastro-esophageal reflux. this often causes a dry cough and teh feeling of a cold coming on without other symptoms...and especially coughing when in repose. I had this happen myself so it rang a bell. Might be worth looking into...



Re: Thanks Walt...another thought

Posted by TonyB on September 12, 2000 at 13:41:53:

In Reply to: Thanks Walt, so it's OK to take a combination of cough suppressant/expectorant so I can sleep, right? (NMI) posted by KMD on September 12, 2000 at 13:27:17:

Sounds like some of you may want to consider GERDS from the descriptions I read.



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough...Poss. GERD? -- Tony

Posted by KMD on September 12, 2000 at 15:49:47:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough...Poss. GERD? posted by TonyB on September 12, 2000 at 13:36:11:

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the thought, however I can tell this is viral. I can feel the post-nasal drip each time I swallow. Several other people around me are suffering from the same thing. It is exactly what I experience each time I catch a cold, and it always passes however sometimes the cough itself can linger on for a few weeks. It is not a big problem for me except when I lay down to sleep. Once the cough ends, I have no symptoms, unless I have instead progressed to sinusitis. I am assuming if this was GERD, I would have symptoms at other times as well?



herbs for cough, especially slippery elm bark

Posted by
Thalia C. on September 13, 2000 at 19:12:45:

In Reply to: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough that makes it difficult to sleep posted by KMD on September 10, 2000 at 21:57:30:

Hi! The following are some good herbs for a tea for cough or irritated bronchial tubes: Bayberry Root Bark, Horehound, Ginger Root, Slippery Elm Bark, Cloves.

Good luck!

Thalia C.
Herbal Home Remedies
http://www.herbalhomeremedies.com



Re: Thanks Walt, so it's OK to take a combination of cough suppressant/expectorant so I can sleep, right? (NMI)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 14, 2000 at 12:46:16:

In Reply to: Thanks Walt, so it's OK to take a combination of cough suppressant/expectorant so I can sleep, right? (NMI) posted by KMD on September 12, 2000 at 13:27:17:

Hi, Kathy.

Sure.

Walt



Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough...Poss. GERD? (Archive in GERD.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 14, 2000 at 12:49:21:

In Reply to: Re: Need HELP for a persistent dry cough...Poss. GERD? posted by TonyB on September 12, 2000 at 13:36:11:

Hi, TonyB.

The phrenic nerve enervates both the diaphragm and the lower end of the esophagus. This is why a cough is commonly associated with GERD.

Dealing with the symptoms of GERD (ginger root juice) and with the cause (LGS), is what you need to do.

Walt



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