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To Walt -- my heartburn

Posted by vickir on March 08, 2001 at 12:28:56:

Namaste, Walt

In recent weeks, I've experienced a recurrence of a problem I had 6 years ago. Would be grateful for your thoughts on it. All I know to call it is heartburn, although it doesn't really feel to me like burning or pain of any kind. It's just a powerful feeling of discomfort--somewhat like nausea--right in the middle of my chest. It occurs either immediately after dinner or during the night, between 2 and 4 AM. It doesn't occur every day, and I haven't been able to associate it with any particular thing I eat or drink. When it occurs during the night, it can last up to several hours. If I drink a large glass of water and semi-sit up, it goes away faster. There are no other symptoms.

When this occurred 6 years ago, I saw a gastroenterologist. He ordered an ECG, a chest x-ray, and a barium swallow. Everything was "normal" or "unremarkable." The diagnosis was "? dysphagia/GER, ? hx of." I went home and elevated the head of my bed several inches but otherwise did nothing special. After a few weeks, the discomfort stopped as suddenly as it had begun. Total time elapsed may have been 2-3 months.

I haven't had my bed elevated for almost 4 years. On rare occasions, I have acid reflux during the night; when I do, I can usually relate it to something I ate or drank for dinner. I normally take a 600-mg betaine HCl capsule with meals to prevent respiratory congestion. The only thing I was doing differently at the time the problem recurred was that I began taking a new multi- supplement. It contains several things that I hadn't been taking previously: alpha lipoic acid, choline, copper, eyebright, glutathione, grapeseed extract, iodine, NAC, nickel, molybdenum, taurine and vanadium. Is it likely or even possible that one of these might have triggered the heartburn? I take the supplement morning and evening but have only had the heartburn problem after dinner or during the night.

I eat right (90%), do SR twice a day, and exercise regularly. I'm 58 years old and have no other health complaints. What more do I need to be doing???

Many thanks, Walt.

Vicki R.



Taking a crack at this...........

Posted by Rich 1 on March 08, 2001 at 20:08:03:

In Reply to: To Walt -- my heartburn posted by vickir on March 08, 2001 at 12:28:56:

Hi. Looks like you are doing all the right things. It could be multivitamin. Heartburn will result when you are not digesting properly. I was going to say that you may have an HCL deficiency because this can contribute to heartburn but you say you are taking HCL.

Try eating simple food combinations. Eat protein with vegetables or eat starch with vegetables but don't eat protein with starch. Lots of the time this ends the heartburn. Take HCL with each protein meal but not with starch meals.

Also, you may not be drinking enough water. Try increasing your water intake throughout the day.

Try switching multivitamins. Why do you need a multi that has nickel and tin in it? Is this Centrum? This is generally not a good multivitamin to take. You get plenty of these micronutrients from foods. They are needed in minute amounts so supplements are usually not needed. Try a multi that comes in capsules not tablets and take it in divided doses throughout the day. Natrol and Rainbow light have a good multi if you need one. You could also try a whole-food multivitamin like PERFECT FOOD available at www.crohns.net.

hope some of this helps. Take care.

Rich 1



Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 10, 2001 at 07:52:33:

In Reply to: To Walt -- my heartburn posted by vickir on March 08, 2001 at 12:28:56:

Hi, vickir.

Rich 1 has some good ideas.

MY first question is: How did you certify that your SR method was producing the "relaxation response"?

This is typical for GERD in that you can get it under control but suffer recurrance in a few years because there were other causitive factors in the first place. Since it is NOT necessaary to get rid of ALL the causes to get rid of the symptoms, many people with this problem stop learning about it as soon as the symptoms are gone. For now, a repeat of the GRJ would be a place to start.

Let us know what the GRJ does for you.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Taking a crack at this...........

Posted by vickir on March 10, 2001 at 15:19:06:

In Reply to: Taking a crack at this........... posted by Rich 1 on March 08, 2001 at 20:08:03:

Thanks for the input, Rich. I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day. The multi I take is MaxiVison Whole Body Formula, which is specifically designed for folks like me who've been diagnosed with macular degeneration. I especially like it because it provides in 4 capsules a day almost all the supplements I feel I should take. The amount of nickel is very small--5 ucg. I'm not sure why it's in there.
I can try the food combining you suggest. At this time, I haven't had any heartburn for several days. Maybe I'll get lucky, and it will disappear as mysteriously as it began :)



Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.)

Posted by vickir on March 10, 2001 at 15:23:02:

In Reply to: Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 10, 2001 at 07:52:33:

I checked my SR with a friend's GSR. That was a couple of years ago. I still feel the same when I'm doing relaxation as I did at that time. Is it advisable to get re-checked periodically> I thought once you learned how to do it, it was sort of like riding a bicycle--the skill would stay with you.



Heartburn is also often stress induced. I had a bit of a battle with this during a stressful time in my life. Try the other suggestions and let us know....nmi

Posted by Rich 1 on March 11, 2001 at 00:13:55:

In Reply to: Re: Taking a crack at this........... posted by vickir on March 10, 2001 at 15:19:06:

nmi

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Re: To Walt -- Hiatus Hernia

Posted by
Evelyn Hill on March 12, 2001 at 02:20:45:

In Reply to: Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.) posted by vickir on March 10, 2001 at 15:23:02:

Dear Walt

I have had an endoscopy and have been diagnosed with hiatus hernia. I have taken 300mg of zantac morning and night, losec and am now taking pepsid 20mg when I have that awful pain between my breasts. The doctor has sent me to a specialist where I can take pepsidine and if that does not work somac 40mg.

I have twice tried taking the ginger juice - 1 teaspoon each morning for 3 weeks - and although I have improved during the day I am still having a horendous time at night where I continually wake up every 2 hours and then sometimes that is all the sleep I get. Not too good when teaching lovely children.

Could you please give me some advice as I do not really want to take medication - so far the pepsidine is not making any difference either at night time and today I am having a terrible day with the pain just sitting between the breasts.

I have found the ginger has helped with reducing the heating I have had. I may also be going through menapause so no doubt I may be getting a double whammy of heat!


Thank you for any help you can give.



Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 12, 2001 at 09:12:17:

In Reply to: Re: To Walt -- my heartburn (Archive in GERD.) posted by vickir on March 10, 2001 at 15:23:02:

Hi, vickir.

ONLY when the symptoms you have been doing the SR for do not disappear on schedule.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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Re: To Walt -- Hiatus Hernia (Archive)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 14, 2001 at 13:50:25:

In Reply to: Re: To Walt -- Hiatus Hernia posted by Evelyn Hill on March 12, 2001 at 02:20:45:

Hi, Evelyn.

Without my seeing the xray results I cannot be sure of my response. However, in the absence of a structural rupture, all GERD is caused by LGS.

The GRJ wil only take care of the functional symptoms actually caused by the GERD. The other symptoms are due to the LGS, and related bracing, and have to be dealt with that way.

Hope this is making sense to you. Ask any further questions you might have.

Walt

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