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fore-gut problems (long story)

Posted by Tony B. on March 01, 1999 at 20:09:12:

Somehow I came across this BB, and read many of the postings. What a great resource! It seems there are many people out there with similar 'digestive' disorders, so I'm hoping that my situation will sound familiar to someone. I have been dealing with this for over a year and have been very frustrated by the GI doc's (and others). I have difficulty eating a normal meal. No matter what I eat, it is followed (soon) by bloating and extreme gas and pressure. Constant explosive (painful) belching, and sometimes, palpitations. The symptoms are worse if I bend over or lie down. There is no regurgitation, and although there is obviously 'indigestion', I hardly ever detect 'acid'. I sometimes get some pain that is usually relived when the gas passes. At this point I really can't do any lifting. I can't bend over much (it's difficult even putting on shoes/socks). If the symptoms start up I have to stand up and put pressure with my thumbs just below my sternum, which helps (especially with the palp's, which I think must be triggered by pressure). I have a hard time eating, so my meals are very simple and small (steamed veg's, rice, occasional fish). As a result I have lost 40 lbs.. I am 6' tall and was 180 when this started. I get very full feeling just below the sternum as well, as though the food is 'stuck' there? I also get esophageal spasms when the gas is bad. I can't drive as any bumpy road can set it off. The focus of the discomfort for the most part is just at the base of the sternum. The rest of my sigestive system (lower abdomen, intestines) seems fine. There is no blood in the stool and no diarrhea. Fortunately I work at home, so I haven't lost much work yet. I've had 2 upper gi's, an endoscopy and numerous stool and blood samples. Nothing shows up. The only result I've had was with a hair analysis that showed Mg and K levels a little low. I was a vegetarian until a few years ago when I started to add some fish and eggs, as I felt after 20 years of the same protein source (soy) it was time for some occasional variety. During that 20 year period I never got sick, was happy and healthy. I have considered many possibilities here and either had them 'eliminated' by 'tests' or with more info. I've had IGA,IGE,IGG tests for allergies. All negative. Things that have been considered are LGS, Candida, Allergies, Hiatus Hernia, Cancer, Diabetes, Parasites, H-Pylori, Pancreas etc. All or most have been eliminated as possibilities as I said. My current fav is hiatus hernia. It seems to fit the bill, except the symptoms are a bit extreme. I have tried many different digestive enzymes, no luck. I take acidolphilus and nutritional support (minerals, vit's, green food supplements etc.) The stool tests were through a reputable Arizona Lab (name?) that is supposed to be good with parasites etc. I also have a kit from Dignos-techs in Washington that are supposed to be very good (I live in Los Angeles). I haven't done Smokey's LGS test yet, but I don't know if this suggests that as a poss. If so I will do it. I'm working with a gastro Dr. and an acupucturist/nutritionist so I can get them to order the test. I lead a fairly relaxed life for the most part. I don't work too much, no kids, get plenty of time off, lead a healthy lifestyle etc. This came on kind of sudden (so it seemed) in Nov. of 1997 after food poisoning. I was tested for H-Pylori antibodies (later through biopsy) and nothing. I was put on Prevacid and Propulcid, which didn't seem to help much. After a month or so it cleared up. Then a few months later I caught a bad cold with a terrible cough. I was put on anti-biotics as I also had a sinus infection. Immediately following the cold the stomach thing came back and has been there ever since. I thought it might be Sunomonus or C-difficile from the anti-biotics, but those tests were also neg. At this point I'm convinced it must be mechanical. A hernia didn't show up in the upper GI or endoscopy, but I understand that isn't uncommon. The I know this is a long, sorry but I didn't want to leave anything out. I probably did anyway. I don't know how organized this info is. Hopefully you can make something of it. Many thanks



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Re: fore-gut problems (long story) (Doc Dave?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 02, 1999 at 12:18:04:

In Reply to: fore-gut problems (long story) posted by Tony B. on March 01, 1999 at 20:09:12:

Hi, Tony.

I suggest you call Doc Dave's attention to this note by putting a note on the BB and titling it something like "Doc Dave help?"

THEN, I would suggest you read "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. Someone told me that it is out of print (maybe true) but you can easily get a copy from your library.

Then, if you have more questions, write again.

Walt



Dr. Dave Help!!!

Posted by Tony B on March 02, 1999 at 12:28:20:

In Reply to: fore-gut problems (long story) posted by Tony B. on March 01, 1999 at 20:09:12:

Somehow I came across this BB, and read many of the postings. What a great resource! It seems there are many people out
there with similar 'digestive' disorders, so I'm hoping that my situation will sound familiar to someone. I have been dealing with
this for over a year and have been very frustrated by the GI doc's (and others). I have difficulty eating a normal meal. No
matter what I eat, it is followed (soon) by bloating and extreme gas and pressure. Constant explosive (painful) belching, and
sometimes, palpitations. The symptoms are worse if I bend over or lie down. There is no regurgitation, and although there is
obviously 'indigestion', I hardly ever detect 'acid'. I sometimes get some pain that is usually relived when the gas passes. At this
point I really can't do any lifting. I can't bend over much (it's difficult even putting on shoes/socks). If the symptoms start up I
have to stand up and put pressure with my thumbs just below my sternum, which helps (especially with the palp's, which I think
must be triggered by pressure). I have a hard time eating, so my meals are very simple and small (steamed veg's, rice,
occasional fish). As a result I have lost 40 lbs.. I am 6' tall and was 180 when this started. I get very full feeling just below the
sternum as well, as though the food is 'stuck' there? I also get esophageal spasms when the gas is bad. I can't drive as any
bumpy road can set it off. The focus of the discomfort for the most part is just at the base of the sternum. The rest of my
sigestive system (lower abdomen, intestines) seems fine. There is no blood in the stool and no diarrhea. Fortunately I work at
home, so I haven't lost much work yet. I've had 2 upper gi's, an endoscopy and numerous stool and blood samples. Nothing shows
up. The only result I've had was with a hair analysis that showed Mg and K levels a little low. I was a vegetarian until a few years
ago when I started to add some fish and eggs, as I felt after 20 years of the same protein source (soy) it was time for some
occasional variety. During that 20 year period I never got sick, was happy and healthy. I have considered many possibilities here
and either had them 'eliminated' by 'tests' or with more info. I've had IGA,IGE,IGG tests for allergies. All negative. Things that
have been considered are LGS, Candida, Allergies, Hiatus Hernia, Cancer, Diabetes, Parasites, H-Pylori, Pancreas etc. All or most
have been eliminated as possibilities as I said. My current fav is hiatus hernia. It seems to fit the bill, except the symptoms are
a bit extreme. I have tried many different digestive enzymes, no luck. I take acidolphilus and nutritional support (minerals, vit's,
green food supplements etc.) The stool tests were through a reputable Arizona Lab (name?) that is supposed to be good with
parasites etc. I also have a kit from Dignos-techs in Washington that are supposed to be very good (I live in Los Angeles). I
haven't done Smokey's LGS test yet, but I don't know if this suggests that as a poss. If so I will do it. I'm working with a gastro
Dr. and an acupucturist/nutritionist so I can get them to order the test. I lead a fairly relaxed life for the most part. I don't
work too much, no kids, get plenty of time off, lead a healthy lifestyle etc. This came on kind of sudden (so it seemed) in Nov. of
1997 after food poisoning. I was tested for H-Pylori antibodies (later through biopsy) and nothing. I was put on Prevacid and
Propulcid, which didn't seem to help much. After a month or so it cleared up. Then a few months later I caught a bad cold with a
terrible cough. I was put on anti-biotics as I also had a sinus infection. Immediately following the cold the stomach thing came
back and has been there ever since. I thought it might be Sunomonus or C-difficile from the anti-biotics, but those tests were
also neg. At this point I'm convinced it must be mechanical. A hernia didn't show up in the upper GI or endoscopy, but I
understand that isn't uncommon. The endoscopy showed 'acute gastritus', and nothing in the biopsy. I'm trying to find someone
who can do a monometry test. I haven't had dairy since high school as I know I am lactose intolerant. I eliminated wheat, millet,
rye, oats etc, and now mostly use brown rice, white rice, or buckwheat for carb's. I eat green veg's and yams (no potatoes, or
nuts). The upshot is, HELP!!!!! I want my life back. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. I spend plenty of time relaxing,
reading etc. I am going to look into biofeedback as often suggested here, but as I said, my life is pretty simple; not a lot of the
stresses many people have, but I know anything is possible. The main thing is, it seems to be a reaction to food. If I don't eat I
feel much better, but I'm losing weight and I love eating!
I know this is a long, sorry but I didn't want to leave anything out. I probably did anyway. I don't know how organized this info is.
Hopefully you can make something of it. Many thanks


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Re: Dr. Dave Help!!!

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on March 02, 1999 at 18:54:55:

In Reply to: Dr. Dave Help!!! posted by Tony B on March 02, 1999 at 12:28:20:

Irritation of the nervous tissue(nerves) that innervate(go to) the area in question can cause this. I have actually felt it before but not nearly that bad. Just a dull ache under the sternum, at the top of the stomach. Anyhow, problems in your lower thoracic spine may be whats causing the problems. Find a good chiropractor in your area to check you out. I've seen quite a few people with it and it's usually easy to clear up. Although, I haven't seen anyone that was as bad as you sound.

Get the book that Dr. Stoll mentioned to help keep what the chiropractor lines up, lined up.

Let me know if I can be of anymore help. Best of luck to you.


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Re: fore-gut problems (long story)

Posted by David Harrison on March 02, 1999 at 19:13:58:

In Reply to: fore-gut problems (long story) posted by Tony B. on March 01, 1999 at 20:09:12:

Dear Tony,

I urge visit my web site and Hawktear's if you would like to find some stories like your own. You are not alone and there is plenty for you to learn. You can get to Hawktear's site from mine, listed below. Feel free to call or write any time and best wishes to you during your search for well being.

David Harrison



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Dr. Dave Help!!! Part 2

Posted by Tony B on March 03, 1999 at 02:01:15:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Dave Help!!! posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on March 02, 1999 at 18:54:55:

Thank you for responding to my plea. I had considered it might be a spinal/nerve problem. The reason is, sometimes it suddenly clears up. For a few hours I feel in bliss as the thing spontaneously disappears. But it always comes back. I have been to a chiropractor. A very good one I think (hope). Someone I've known for some time. He thinks it's a hernia, causing the nerve irritation as it kinks. I'll be at UCLA getting checked out tomorrow. They may want to do a monometry test, and/or a ph. Any suggestions there? I'll maybe try another chiro soon. Unfortunately it has been so bad that getting out to appointments has been difficult. Would this explain the palpitaions as well, or is that secondary from the gas pressure? Also, I can't lie flat so that makes the chiro job a bit difficult. If I could figure out a way to get some symptom relief, even temporary, I could get out for some chiro appt's etc. I am currently taking prilosec, and I take a lot of ginger. Started doing the ginger juice after reading about that on the site. Pretty tough to take full strength, but I'm giving it a go. Hope I can hear from you in am before my UCLA appt. I'd hate to go through more tests if it turns out to be a back problem.


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Re: fore-gut problems (long story)

Posted by S on March 03, 1999 at 02:25:54:

In Reply to: Re: fore-gut problems (long story) posted by David Harrison on March 02, 1999 at 19:13:58:

Tony,
Very interested in reading your site, but had trouble
connecting to it. Any ideas?

Thanks




Is there something in your life that you just "cannot stomach?"

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on March 03, 1999 at 07:48:07:

In Reply to: fore-gut problems (long story) posted by Tony B. on March 01, 1999 at 20:09:12:

This might sound like an odd question to ask in response to your story/description but ss there something in your life that you just "cannot stomach?" Either in the Past or the Present.

Seriously, solving your "problem" could be as simple as identifying this "cannot stomach" (if there is one) situation and resolving it.

Do think deeply about this question and possible resolution. Look into your own heart and listen to not only what it tells you in words but also how it "feels". If this question "feels" right, then probably there is such a situation in your life that you can resolve and can feel much better about yourself. Then your symptoms will go away automatically.

If after you think about this, if you feel nothing in your heart and you have no idea what I'm talking about, then don't worry about this question further. You've worried about this situation long and hard enough already. No need to worry further about a "way out" solution. But I'll be very surprised if answering this question is not a key to your recovery.

RocketHealer Jim++


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Re: Dr. Dave Help!!! Part 2

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on March 03, 1999 at 08:10:00:

In Reply to: Dr. Dave Help!!! Part 2 posted by Tony B on March 03, 1999 at 02:01:15:

I'd go ahead and have the tests but I'd also try a different chiropractor just on the principle that you'd hate for it to be your back and end up with some harsh meds or surgery and not have tried someone else first. Make sure you get right on top of the skilled relaxation thing. Like, today.


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Re: Dr. Dave Help!!! Part 2

Posted by TOny B on March 03, 1999 at 12:15:41:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Dave Help!!! Part 2 posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on March 03, 1999 at 08:10:00:

Will do on the SR. Thanks Dr. Dave. On my way to appt., fingers crossed...



Re: Is there something in your life that you just "cannot stomach?"

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 04, 1999 at 10:53:52:

In Reply to: Is there something in your life that you just "cannot stomach?" posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on March 03, 1999 at 07:48:07:

Dear Tony.

Listen to RocketHealer Jim!

This is one of the ways our bodyminds work. At least take it seriously.

Walt



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