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Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation

Posted by B.B. on March 30, 2002 at 08:05:51:


Hi, Walt

Very frustrated, depresed, confused latley and tendancy to avoid certain subjects. Recommended to have the nissen fundo operation due to high acid reflux, hiatal hernia, and possible exposure to the Barrett's Esophagus I've got. Tried the GRJ, however, found it burns a bit much.

I haven't found much information on this surgery, and have been advised in my best health interest to have it along with the gastric banding. Led to believe it's easily reversed, however, learned it's meant to be Permanent but they'll reverse if necessary.




Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 31, 2002 at 07:49:46:

In Reply to: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation posted by B.B. on March 30, 2002 at 08:05:51:

Hi, B.B.

If you only tried the GRJ a few times, you did not read what I had said about it.

You need to get concrete statistics from your surgeon about the % success of this procedure and the % failure--along with the chance of anesthetic death with this very major procedure. Then you just have to decide. Remember, the surgery will do nothing about why this is happening. You are STILL going to have to deal with your LGS.

Walt




Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK

Posted by B.B. on March 31, 2002 at 09:46:26:

In Reply to: Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation posted by Walt Stoll on March 31, 2002 at 07:49:46:


Hi, Walt

I went back and read your response and will try the GRJ and see if it stops burning.

Understood this was a major operation, however, under the impression it could now be done laprascopic. Since asking your opinion found information on the nissen fund as well as the gastric banding. Didn't like what I read in reference to either operation. It appears I'd do better to get on better exercise, diet program than any surgery could provide.

Planning on obtaining all pertinent information as far as % success, % failure as well as relationship of obesity on GERD, Hiatal Hernia, and Barrett's Esophagus. Sure this surgeon won't have the time to answer my guestions in a seminar type atmosphere, let alone on a one on one consultation. (sigh)

I'm still waiting for the written results from this last endoscopy. Wasn't aware that I had LGS as well. (sigh) So glad you've still got majority of your archives to refer to for information. Thanks and I'll keep you posted on how I'm doing, as well as my decision after speaking with the surgeon and the ENT.

Have a Very Happy Easter.



Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK

Posted by
jody on March 31, 2002 at 18:51:02:

In Reply to: Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK posted by B.B. on March 31, 2002 at 09:46:26:

i'm in a similiar situation (re gerd and burning). and i was also considering the fundo as well as the stretta procedure.
but i did a search and found a gastro board (much like this, but only about gastro problems) and you wouldn't believe the number of posts about the fundo. ALL of them had to do with problems -- some of them VERY major -- such as the woman who's now on a morphine drip as a result.
then there's something hideous called a dilation that many people need several times after the surgery, to make the LES bigger because it's been tightened too much.
then there's the issue of not being able to belch. and if you're anything like me, you have a pretty rumbly stomach, so imagine the discomfort that would mean.
as for the stretta -- i've yet to find anyone who's been improved by it. and i've searched plenty.
have you tried cranio sacral manipulation? dr. anderw weill suggests that. it helped a little for me.
i'm on walt's sr/ginger juice plan and try to eat in a smart manner. other than taking glutamine, probiotics and licorce, i haven't really addressed the lgs -- it's a pretty overwhelming thing to take on. i've already eliminated almost everything good from my diet, so losing sugar, grains and and an occassional chocolate yogurt is too much for me right now. but if my pain continues, i'll probably end up doing it.
i'm also going to see an osteopath he recommended. if i were you i'd steer as far clear of that operation as possible -- and get off the proton pump inhibitors if you're on them.
i once had a gastro dr. tell me i didn't even need my stomach -- that if he took it out i'd be fine. and he was one of the best doctors in washington dc. so that's the mindset of most allopathic gastro guys.
good luck
jody



Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation-- Jody

Posted by B.B. on March 31, 2002 at 21:44:49:

In Reply to: Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK posted by jody on March 31, 2002 at 18:51:02:


Hi,Jody

You're kind of steering me in the way I've been trying to stay on for a few years now. I brought up the subject to a doctor I see every now and then along with the gastro banding. He didn't tell me not to have it done, however, advised me of what to do in order to avoid having any further surgeries. His main aim is to do alternative things in order to prevent surgery. The look on his face said it all, and I pretty much made up my mind at that point not to have this operation. My primary doctor agrees with my gastro and wants me mainly to have the gastric banding. I didn't read too much pretty stuff on that operation either.

Decided to take the advise given on this board in establishing a as close as possible whole foods diet, exercise, and do SR sessiion more than I've been in order to help me regain my health and lose weight. Then the doctors can't recommend anymore surgeries. I've got to take control of my health.




Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation-- to B.B.

Posted by kmd on March 31, 2002 at 22:48:53:

In Reply to: Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation-- Jody posted by B.B. on March 31, 2002 at 21:44:49:

Good for you, that's what I like to hear!! Take control of your own health, you can do it! No matter what misery or suffering you must endure to get used to the practice of the 3-legged stool, this will prove to be NOTHING compared to the suffering you are experiencing from NOT doing it. Go for it!

Break free from this cycle of endless misery and doctor appointments.

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Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK (Archive in GERD.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 01, 2002 at 08:39:23:

In Reply to: Re: Opinion on Nissen Fundo Operation--OK posted by B.B. on March 31, 2002 at 09:46:26:

Thanks, B.B.

If it were ME, I would do nearly anything before submitting to this procedure.

Namaste`

Walt

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