Chronic Hives historical posts March 1998

Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

Does anyone have any natural ways to deal with chronic hives? I am tired of taking antihistimines one after another, I was even on steroids to control them for a while. I have been tested for everything no known cause!!! Any help is appreciated. Thanks-C


Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Geri on March 19, 1998 at 13:05:50:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

Dear Cammie,
I have Candida and I have allergies with hive type symptoms.
Try a sugar free diet and avoid all foods but unfried meat
and vegetables. No fruit, no dairy, no processed foods. Try
this for a week or two and if you start feeling better you
can introduce a new food every three or four days. If you
have no reaction then you know you are not allergic to that
food. If you have a reaction then avoid that food. Or you can
ask your doctor for an allergy test.
Geri


Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Lisa on March 19, 1998 at 20:24:07:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

Cammie, I am currently toes to waist in hives. I had just started taking Metamucil. Dr. Stoll suggested it was the additives. I stopped taking it a week ago but still a mess...itchy...however, I have been baking,using colored sugars. The common denomintor was food coloring, particularly FD&C Yellow #5. While I am not sure this is the connection, the hives, which have not gone away since I stopped the Metamucil, may be because I keep injesting the dye through the cookies I've been pigging out on. I've been looking up everything on the net using medical dictionaries, see http://www.feingold.org/effects.html this site discusses additives, If you haven't already investigated all of this with your doctors, I hope it helps....you and me. Lisa


Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 20, 1998 at 11:49:34:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

Dear Cammie,

If you have seen an allergist for your diagnosis (rather than a clinical ecologist) you have not been tested for more than 5% of the causes of your hives.

HOWEVER, having said that, at least 95% of all sensitivities that would cause this are tissue allergies which would not show up on conventional allergy tests AND are ALL due to leaky gut syndrome (likely aggravated by candida-related syndrome). Finally, chronic hives are frequently NOT caused by environmental sensitivities. In those cases, self-hyupnosis is a nearly 100% cure.

The resources for finding the closest clinical ecologist are in the back of my book AND the rest of my book would go a long way toward your figuring out WHY you have this (link below).

Walt



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Cammie on March 20, 1998 at 14:21:07:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Geri on March 19, 1998 at 13:05:50:

Thanks for the suggestions, I have one more question, what is Candida? From what I understand it is like a yeast problem. When I had my baby a year ago she got thrush and I was nursing her, Isn't that a type of yeast? She was treated and I wasn't, but it had to come from me, would that have anything to do with it? I remember being very itchy during that time, my doctor said to just wash myself after she nursed to keep the breasts dried out thats all I did. I'm just curious if that has anything to do with it. It all started a few mnths after she was born.
Thanks again Cammie


Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by MMartin487 on March 20, 1998 at 22:40:28:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Walt Stoll on March 20, 1998 at 11:49:34:

Have you had a liver enzyme test? Are your Sgot and SGTP levels normal? Are you itching but they're is nothing noticable on your skin? Or, do you have hives as you say?



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 21, 1998 at 13:09:25:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 20, 1998 at 14:21:07:

Dear Cammie,

Thrush is caused by THE yeast that everyohne is finally learning about (candida). You would be wise to read any book by William Crook, MD about candida. There are many references in the back of my book about this AND my book is the only one yet out that deals with WHY someone would be susceptible to this condition (link below).

Without dealing with the susceptibilities, once treatment is ceased, the problem just comes back.

Walt



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Posted by Melva Smith on March 21, 1998 at 22:48:28:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:


Hi: I have two words for chronic hives. Skilled Relaxation.
As a matter of fact I found my answer through Dr. Stoll. I had a hypnosis tape made especially for this relaxation time and the results were remarkable.

Melva



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 22, 1998 at 11:05:57:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by MMartin487 on March 20, 1998 at 22:40:28:

Thanks, MMartin, for your note.

It gives me a chance to voice one of my pet peeves about physician ignorance about "live function tests". This is not a criticism of you! It is the business of physicians to understand this stuff & explain it to you.

The enzyme tests you listed are "liver death tests". The way they work is that once the liver cell is dead, the cell membrane rots & it gets holes through which enzymes, normally mainly present inside the cell, leak out into the blood. We then find high levels in the blood & call it a liver function test.

True liver function cells measure the efficiency of liver cell function while they are still alive. Obviously this is a MUCH more effective time to find the problem & reverse it. It is hard to bring a liver cell back once it is dead.

Unfortunately, most physicians haven't learned anything about testing the liver since they were in school 40+ years ago. Since labs do not develop tests until there are enough physicians who know enough to order it (to make is economically feasable to develop the test & do it often enough to be good at it) most labs do not even offer them.

This is why I have listed in the back of my book the (800) 234-6825 lab number to call that has been doing these tests for many years AND who can list the docs in anyone's area who would not only know enough to order adequate tests BUT also know what to do with the results.

ANY doc who orders SGOT, SGPT, Alk Phos and LDH tests for the liver doesn't know enough for anyone to pay them for advice.

Walt



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by dp on March 23, 1998 at 14:01:07:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

cammie: i began suffering from chronic hives a couple years ago. i tried everything and nothing worked an doctors where of absolutely no help. i can certainly emphasize with you; i know how trying it can be. about 8 months ago i began treating it as an intestinal disorder, using grapefruit seed extract in addition and uva ursa with some improvement. then i started following the advice here and in dr. stoll's book and the improvements have been dramatic. i currently take 10 drops of grapefruit seed extract and a high quality probiotic daily, as well as the kind of nutrient supplementation dr. stoll reccommends. the relaxation is important as the stress of the hives undoubtedly exacerbates the problem as well as likely causing the intestinal problem in the first place. in addition to the relaxation techniques, i take the herb kava kava as a relaxant. you might also look at herbs to stregthen the liver and cleanse the blood. good luck! relief is at hand.


Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Barb on March 23, 1998 at 17:07:16:

In Reply to: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Cammie on March 18, 1998 at 13:24:00:

I had chronic hives and rash for years. I suffered terribly. I went through 10 doctors and spent thousands of dollars, before I found help. Finally I found one that knew about Systemic Candidiasis (Yeast overgrowth of the bowel and/or blood). Treatment for that cured the hives and rash completely, plus a lot more health problems.
Best wishes
Barb



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 25, 1998 at 10:38:16:

Dear dp,

One of the most common, undiagnosed causes for hives is parasitosis. What you have found helps you indicates that you have this problem aggravating the LGS you have to have before getting parasites.

Walt



Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES

Posted by Cammie on March 30, 1998 at 13:03:14:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone have any ideas for CHRONIC HIVES posted by Barb on March 23, 1998 at 17:07:16:


I appreciate everyones advice, and comments. I have had every test you could imagine, liver, thyroid, kidney function tests, I had a stool sample checked for parasites, and etc. I don't remember anything being said about a possibility of candidias , I didn't even know that it was the cause of thrush until I read it on Dr. Stolls BB. I am having a bad flare of them right now and I can't put my finger on whats causing them. I wanted to ask Barb what she ended up getting from her Doctor to help her hives? I also wanted to ask Dr Stoll if this is somthing most Doctors know about or will my Doctor think I'm crazy if I suggest the candidias is the problem? Is there a test to confirm it? My background definately backs this up with my baby getting thrush while I nursed her (twice), and my breasts itching during this time. I really appreciate this , it's hard to raise your kids, and be a good Mom, and wife when your constantly itcing, it effects everything you do and everyone you know. I want to figure this out so maybe before the end of summer I can wear shorts, and not worry about those itchy spots.
Thanks Again, Cammie



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