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Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT)

Posted by
Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

IN reference to an early post(Posted by Melanie on May 03, 2002 at 14:16:43:) I checked through the archives and could only come up with the same response, "to check the archives for a lengthy treatment process that you'd hoped would still be available because it was lengthy" I checked as best i could and came up with nothing more than that. I am unsure how to check further for this previous protocol. Any suggestions???
Thanks a bunch!!



Thanks Gb in philly... I haven't been able to find a thing!

Posted by Melanie on May 04, 2002 at 14:10:07:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:



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Dr S... HELP!!!

Posted by
Melanie on May 04, 2002 at 14:14:45:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

I can't find a thing in the archives! The only thing there is a post to a girl named Carla in which you stated, "Somewhere, in the archives, I have posted the exact treatment for this and how to prevent recurrence. It is long and involved and I hope you can find it to prevent me having to retype it all over again." Anyway, I cannot find it... can you please help me?

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Try this

Posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:23:20:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

I don't know how to get a link in here. Go here, scroll down to "Dear Nikki" post.


http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/archives/mcs/m061998.html



ph, thanks..I'll print it out & send it to Mom! Very Gratefully Yours, Melanie

Posted by Melanie on May 05, 2002 at 04:31:52:

In Reply to: Try this posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:23:20:



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Also look at this

Posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:36:05:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:


EFAs



Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2002 at 09:36:35:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

Thsnks, Melanie.

I tried to go to the archives to check this out and could not go there. I know that Bill has been working, diligently, on the problems of switching to another ISP andthat is probably the problem.

I will let him know. Please recheck the archives in a few days.

Walt



Housewive's dermatitis PROTOCOL (Archive in housewive's dermatitis.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2002 at 11:07:18:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

Thanks, Gb.

This must have been lost to the hacker.

SO, here it is again: DEATH TO ALL HACKERS!

Housewive's Dermatitis

So called because, traditionally, housewives have the highest contact with commercial chemicals.

The skin has a natural barrier to environmental pollutants but there IS a limit, That limit is genetically determined: some people can soak their hands in chemicals all their lives without problems. Some can only do it a little. Many, eventually, will have some problem.

If the barrier has not been destroyed (Housewive's Dermatitis) the individual just gets a rash that can be eliminated by some cortisone cream and avoiding the most likely causes for a week or so.

Once that limit has been exceeded, ANY contact will cause a contact dermatitis. Total elimination of that exposure will only resolve the immediate problem. Total elimination of ANY contact, until the barrier can reestablish itself (about 6 months in the average person), will frequently get the person back to at least where she was before she started breaking out .

Thus, the protocol:

1. The person must understand the above.
2. Find a brand of disposable, hypoallergenic, rubber gloves and learn how to use them just like a surgeon does (sterile technique). Learn how to take off the gloves without touching the outside of them!
3. Learn NEVER to touch anything in the house without gloves. For non-cleaning or polishing every day contact, white, cotton gloves must be worn all the time (inside and outside the home).
4. Use non allergenic bath soap, shampoo, lanudry soap, softener, antistatic, etc. (This may not be good enough for some people.) Dry carefully immediately after the bath and put on the white gloves.
5. Before putting on the white gloves liberally apply 1% hydrocortisone cream. Be sure to do this overnight as well.

Within a few weeks this routine will become automatic. Done correctly, most people will have reestablished their normal barrier within about 6 months. IF they break over at any time they have to start the clock running again.

For the rest of her life, she will have to be conscious of avoiding chemical exposure but will probably not have to do the white glove thing any more. The disposable, hypoallergenic gloves thing may be necessary for the rest of her life to prevent recurrance.

The hardest thing will be realizing that chemicals are now everywhere. Even touching any surface (without protection) will restart the problem since polishes, cleaning solutions, antiseptics, etc, are used liberally in stores and other people's homes as well as her own. The average person is now exposed, by touch, to more than 100,000 different chemicals every day.

Once her rash is cleared up for a week she will no longer need to use the cortisone cream (unless ehe is not perfect in protecting herself and the rash recurrs). Continuous use of cortisone cream, for more than a few months, can cause irreversible changes in her skin.) She will likely know exactly when and where she broke isolation as soon as the rash starts. Be sure to restart the clock when isolation is restarted!

This is a real committment but she is the only one who can do it. The real shame is that most physicians will not take the time to explain this and so just continue treating the process (she has already seen how effective that is) and collecting fees.

Let us know how she does.

Namaste`

Walt



Thanks a million! I'll print it this & send it to Mom! Gratefully yours,

Posted by Melanie on May 05, 2002 at 12:08:12:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis PROTOCOL (Archive in housewive's dermatitis.) posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2002 at 11:07:18:



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Thanks again!

Posted by Melanie on May 05, 2002 at 12:12:58:

In Reply to: Also look at this posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:36:05:



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Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT)

Posted by Happygal on May 05, 2002 at 15:29:45:

In Reply to: Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2002 at 09:36:35:

Walt, I tried looking to help and couldn't find anything, either.

Happygal

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Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT)

Posted by Carol B. on May 05, 2002 at 16:12:21:

In Reply to: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Gb in philly on May 04, 2002 at 13:08:20:

Melanie,
When I started taking Flaxseed oil supplements, my hands stopped chapping. I was amazed.
Before that, I was using lanolin in a tube. I applied it to my hands before bedtime, so that it could absorb completely. This really conditioned the skin, but I haven't needed to do it since I started the Flaxseed oil.

If your mother does want to try using lanolin, just do it on one spot. It helps alot with the cracking skin.



Re: Also look at this(ph??)

Posted by Gb in philly on May 06, 2002 at 00:50:08:

In Reply to: Also look at this posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:36:05:

I am not very into supplements at all because of the cost. But where does one get evening primrose oil and flaxseed oil and the others that you mentioned or linked to rather.
I am on a low budget and have never been one to take a supplement because I have always felt that what you eat should provide you with what you need. With todays diet choices i am probably very wrong but what is the cost and availability of these produst and what brands are the safest and most reliable.



Re: Try this

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 06, 2002 at 09:09:29:

In Reply to: Try this posted by ph on May 05, 2002 at 04:23:20:

Thanks, ph.

How did you find this? I could not find it anywhere so I typed out the protocol again yesterday.

Namaste`

Walt



searching for stuff and finding answers

Posted by ph on May 06, 2002 at 09:44:02:

In Reply to: Re: Try this posted by Walt Stoll on May 06, 2002 at 09:09:29:

I just typed into the search: housewife dermatitis. The first result is titled "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity." There's a post in there about excema.

I always look into the search results even if it doesn't look like what I'm looking for; it's usually in there even if the title doesn't say so. Maybe that's something everyone already knows?? I'm not sure -- it doesn't seem like it because so many people frequently have trouble finding things on this site which I've never understood. I think it's very simple.

Maybe they're just overwhelmed by the volume of information. That's understandable, I was at first. But, I just kept looking around and reading everything (even if it didn't seem to apply to me). It just takes some time, you're head is spinning with information, then before you know it you've absorbed it and things make sense.




Re: Also look at this(ph??)

Posted by ph on May 06, 2002 at 10:02:46:

In Reply to: Re: Also look at this(ph??) posted by Gb in philly on May 06, 2002 at 00:50:08:

I also used to think we should get everything from what we eat. We probably would if we had perfect, quality, nutrient rich foods and optimum, healthy digestive systems.

You get oils and other supplements at health foods stores or for very low cost at Trader Joe's (if you have those around). I'm not an authority on quality or reliability. I often pick up brands that I've seen mentioned on this site and I don't usually stick to just one; I switch around. I just picked up a bottle of flaxseed oil for $10, I don't think that's a bad price. I take supplements here and there, off and on. I look at the price and for ones that don't have much or any additives in them. The cost can be outrageous. I'm not willing to pay $40-$50 for a bottle of essential oils which is a price I have seen.




Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 06, 2002 at 10:27:49:

In Reply to: Re: Housewive's dermatitis(to WALT) posted by Carol B. on May 05, 2002 at 16:12:21:

Yeah, Carol.

That works wonders for chapping and cracking but she showed a picture of her mother's hands. Motice the little yellow crystals at the edges of the lesions.

This is a contact dermatitis and not just chapping and cracking.

I do not think the EFAs would harm her and might even help some but they are not THE solution.

Walt

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Re: Also look at this(ph??) Archive in supplements.

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 07, 2002 at 10:11:49:

In Reply to: Re: Also look at this(ph??) posted by ph on May 06, 2002 at 10:02:46:

Thanks, ph.

..........AND even a reasonably healthy ecology..........

However, even with all that, eating an organic whole foods diet is not a bad place to start.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: searching for stuff and finding answers (Archive in archives.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 07, 2002 at 10:58:25:

In Reply to: searching for stuff and finding answers posted by ph on May 06, 2002 at 09:44:02:

Thanks, ph.

EXACTLY how I had to learn it. You will never be sorry for the effort!

Namaste`

Walt

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To Gb in philly

Posted by Carol B. on May 07, 2002 at 16:23:24:

In Reply to: Re: Also look at this(ph??) posted by Gb in philly on May 06, 2002 at 00:50:08:

Local drugstores will often have 50% off sales for supplements. The advertisements are in the Sunday newspaper. Every drugstore, grocery store, and discount store has a large section devoted to vitamins and supplements.

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