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"A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book!

Posted by Dayne on May 18, 2003 at 13:26:10:

Has anyone else read "A Headache in the Pelvis"? It is a really good book on chronic pelvic pain. It is about time someone wrote a clear and concise book on this subject. I learned some interesting new things which should help me overcome my horrible Levator Ani Syndrome.
Here is a link to more info:

http://www.prostatitis.org/aheadacheinthepelvis.html

Take care!



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book!

Posted by
Shelley on May 18, 2003 at 14:09:14:

In Reply to: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! posted by Dayne on May 18, 2003 at 13:26:10:

Hi! Thank you SO much for this information. My husband is 42 and has had chronic prostatis since he was in his early 30's. The MD's had given up on his pelvic discomfort and lower back pain by the time I met him 5 years ago, and he had resigned to his predicament and depression soon followed. I am buying this book today, because he was a 30-40 mile a day bicyclist before all of his problems started, and as a massage therapist, I had a hunch his problem was in his soft tissue, although I have not yet been able to pinpoint it. Our GP has him on Proscar, but it has not helped since he started it 4 months ago. Have there been any therapies or exercises that have helped you specifically? Thanks for your help.

Shelley in Indiana



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book!

Posted by Dayne on May 18, 2003 at 15:46:34:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! posted by Shelley on May 18, 2003 at 14:09:14:

More than likely your husband has trigger points in the soft tissue around the prostate. Has he ever been examined internally by a good PT to look for tigger points?
Massage and relaxation are key. You will be amazed at this book!



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 19, 2003 at 07:17:58:

In Reply to: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! posted by Dayne on May 18, 2003 at 13:26:10:

Thanks, Dayne.

It really is refreshing to hear that finally others are teaching what I have been trumpeting for 25 years.

Who is the author and what year was it published?

Namaste`

Walt



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Dayne on May 19, 2003 at 10:38:39:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Walt Stoll on May 19, 2003 at 07:17:58:

Dr. Stoll,

"A Headache in the Pelvis" was written by Dr. David Wise, PHD and Rodney Anderson MD. I believe it just came out earlier this year. It stresses two key components in overcoming pelvic floor disorders...relaxation and internal massage and re-lengthening of the shortened and tight muscles. They need oxygen and blood.

Now if I can just find a good PT who can do the massage. I don't feel comfortable having my fiance (wife in 2 weeks!) to do the massage. But it would save me money.

Dr. Stoll, I would highly recommend you taking a look at the book. I'm sure you already know a lot of the info that is contained in it. But it is refreshing that someone finally wrote a book in such detail!



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Happygal on May 19, 2003 at 10:46:08:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Dayne on May 19, 2003 at 10:38:39:

Hi Dayne,

Sounds like a great book -- I wish I had a book budget, I'd buy it.

What does it say about the massage? Can you have a massage therapist do it, or can you do it yourself? PTs are expensive, and so much can be done by oneself.

Best wishes,
Happygal (Certified Massage Therapist)



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book!

Posted by
Shelley on May 19, 2003 at 11:36:16:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! posted by Dayne on May 18, 2003 at 15:46:34:

Thanks Dayne for responding! I'm with Happygal and doing the massage myself, since I am also a massage therapist (NCTMB, nationally certified). I hope the book gives some ideas, because we've been to all of the "hands-on" PT's around here and none of them have been able to help my husband. I'd love to take continuing ed, but I have never heard of any type of internal massage classes being offered for MT's. I'm sure PT's have other options. If anyone knows of any instructional websites where I could learn this, please let me know. Or, Dr. Stoll- any advice? Thanks so much!

PS- Dr. Stoll, this is a GREAT website and forum for people to learn what the mainstream medical establishment will never tell us. Kudos and namaste to you!



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Dayne on May 19, 2003 at 11:44:19:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Happygal on May 19, 2003 at 10:46:08:

Do you mean internal massage happygal? It does mention that some areas can be accessed by oneself internally. Do you advise that?



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Happygal on May 19, 2003 at 20:55:41:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Dayne on May 19, 2003 at 11:44:19:

Hi Dayne,

Hummm. I don't think most massage therapists can do internal massage. You may or may not need to do it. What about external massage? Does the book talk about that?

I had some really severe pain deep around my tailbone for a long time. One massage therapist discussed internal massage for it, but was not licensed to perform it. I did have some deep tissue massage in the area, and it helped. Eventually, what totally resolved the pain for me (it got better but lasted for years) was an Activated Isolated Stretching (AIS) Session. As I see it, it loosened up the fascia that kept the area restricted and that was resolved it. :o) I was so glad. I got away with only needing one session because it was done by the therapist who originated the healing technique, and he was excellent.

AIS may or may not work for you, but keep open to trying different things. You could definitely do external massage yourself, do they suggest focusing on any specific muscles?

Best wishes,
Happygal



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 2003 at 08:43:32:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Dayne on May 19, 2003 at 10:38:39:

Thanks, Dayne.

I will order it today from my library.

Walt

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Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! TESTIMONIAL

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 20, 2003 at 09:02:05:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! posted by Shelley on May 19, 2003 at 11:36:16:

Thanks, Shelly!

I am getting the book from the library. I will be posting what I think on the BB.

Walt

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Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Dayne on May 20, 2003 at 12:16:13:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Happygal on May 19, 2003 at 20:55:41:

What exactly is Activated Isolated Stretching? Can you give me an idea of what I can do at home to do it?
I would really appreciate it. :)



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Happygal on May 21, 2003 at 03:50:23:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Dayne on May 20, 2003 at 12:16:13:

Hi Dayne,

Active isolated stretching is isolating specific muscles and stretching them. Try looking at www.stretchingusa.com for more information. Aaron probably has his books for sale there. He has two versions of the stretch books -- the more expensive one for the therapists names the muscles and shows both the do-it-yourself version and the assisted version of each stretch.

You will want to stretch the hip adductors, the hamstrings, the quads, and all the stretches related to the sacrum and coccyx. There may be other muscles involved but those come to mind right now as being involved with your issue. You may also be able to make up some stretches that are effective for you.

If you can find a therapist near you who can do assisted stretching for you, it might be faster than trying to do it yourself. Aaron basically resolved my problem in 1/2 hour.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Happygal



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by
Shelley on May 21, 2003 at 11:54:24:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Happygal on May 21, 2003 at 03:50:23:

Thanks for the info on AIS and your experience with it. Wow, too cool that you had Aaron Mattes himself work on you. I'll definitely try this with my husband. Blessings!

Shelley

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Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Dayne on May 21, 2003 at 13:42:01:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Happygal on May 21, 2003 at 03:50:23:

Thanks Happygal, I think I may order the chart for the lower body. Looks like it has some nice stretches on it. Deep down though, I think I'm going to need internal release to break up the trigger points that are in the levator ani.

But I know these stretches will help cut down my pain.



Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.)

Posted by Happygal on May 21, 2003 at 14:11:42:

In Reply to: Re: "A Headache in the Pelvis"...great book! (Archive in IC.) posted by Dayne on May 21, 2003 at 13:42:01:

Hi Dayne,

Think of it as approaching the problem from as many different avenues at once as you can. For me, what has worked to get my body feeling like a 12-year old again has been doing the following simultaneously over a period of years: 1) daily SR 2) daily stretching 3) getting regular massages from a professional (about every 3 weeks) 4) almost daily self-massage on trouble spots 5) daily exercise 6) daily PWFD 7) occasional supplements.

Best wishes,
Happygal

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