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Posted by R. on December 01, 2000 at 17:46:27:

Some time ago someone asked whether to take a flu shot. I've found interesting articles on this topic.

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From www.mercola.com/2000/nov/26/flu_shots.htm:

Why I Never Get Flu Shots
by Chet Day

Reprinted with permission from Chet Day's Health & Beyond

Every year about this time, quite a few people write me and ask, "My Doctor tells me to get my annual flu shot. Should I do it?"

Well, I don't diagnose or prescribe, and what you do with your body remains entirely up to you and your doctor (if you still go to a doctor), but I'll gladly tell you what I do regarding flu shots...

I avoid them like the plague.

In fact, at age 52, I've never had a flu shot, and it would take a Marine nurse and at least four burly wrestlers the size of Jessie Ventura to hold me down and give me one.

Perhaps you already sense I have strong feelings about flu shots?

These feelings stem from personal opinion, reading, and dramatic personal experience.

First off, I don't think toxic chemicals and virus strains grown on living tissue belong in the human body, even when they're packaged in sterile glass vials.

Since my family and I don't rely on doctors anymore, I don't have access to an insert that reveals the composition of this year's flu vaccine, but I did find some general information at the Concerned Parents for Vaccine Safety web site, where I learned about some of the ingredients used to make vaccines.

Do you want any of the following vaccine constituents in YOUR bloodstream?


Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)

Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent

Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)

Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease

Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people.
Vaccines are also grown and strained through animal or human tissue like monkey kidney tissue, chicken embryo, embryonic guinea pig cells, calf serum, and human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted human fetuses as in the case of rubella, hepatitis A, and chickenpox vaccines).

Well, I refuse to put all of the above in my body, and I hope when your doctor starts telling you it's time for your annual flu shot that you'll require him to defend the annual injection. You or your insurance company's probably paying eighty bucks for a visit, so get your money's worth.

Have your doctor read you the insert that comes with the vaccine.

Then have him/her explain why it makes sense to inject toxic chemicals into the human body and how such substances can aid the delicate immune system.

Chances are he/she will fall back on questionable statistical and demographic explanations that the medical establishment has used for decades to justify immunization.

Try to engage your doctor in a non-confrontational discussion because this is an opportunity for him/her to actually give some serious thought to what he/she is injecting into bodies of patients day after day after day.

Many traditional doctors who haven't studied diet and lifestyle aren't going to change unless we help to educate them to what drugs and vaccines may really be doing long-term to people.

Okay, to speak from personal experience for a moment, let's look over our shoulders to 1990, a time period before the Day family turned to natural methods of building health.

In February of 1990, right after my wife's major cancer surgery in January, her doctor recommended a flu shot.

Almost immediately after the injection, my wife started feeling ill.

Overnight she came down with the worst case of flu she'd ever had.

She went to bed and literally didn't get up again for more than a few hours at a time for years afterwards. Only now, almost a decade later, is she finally regaining full health and energy.

I don't have space or enough heart yet to tell my wife's entire story, though I'll do it one of these days, but if you'll click here, you can read an article written by another CFIDS sufferer, an article that shows the cause and effect connection between flu vaccines and terrible immune disorders.

Okay, I'm a realist so if was still thinking traditionally, part of me would almost buy into the typical rationale for flu vaccines, that so many people are spared the annual flu and only a few die or have their lives ruined after being injected.

I'd buy into that if I were convinced that injecting a filthy substance into the body actually made sense.

Unfortunately, once I stopped buying into the big medical lies about their drug, cut, and burn system, I started questioning all of it.

And when one digs into the vaccine history (check out the Swine Flu vaccine if you want a real horror story) and scientific research (especially in Europe), it quickly becomes apparent that nobody really knows what these toxic stews of chemicals and microorganisms do in the human body.

Well, readers and a few medical professionals have called me a simple-minded dolt on more than one occasion, but since 1993 I've approached the yearly flu shot hype with the understanding that if I eat and live properly, I won't have to worry about catching the flu.

The flu vaccine I use -- eating and living as close to nature as I can -- actually works.

Not only that, but it doesn't cost a dime, and nobody's going to have his/her life ruined because of a "bad batch" of vaccine that triggers some mysterious autoimmune disease that lays a person out of commission for years.

But let's say you don't want to eat and live close to nature.

Okay, I can understand that, but my next question would be "Which is better? Some rest time with the flu or having toxic chemicals injected into your bloodstream?"

I mean, seriously, before I got healthy I almost looked forward to a yearly bout with influenza because it meant I could go to bed and get some rest instead of working practically every waking moment of my life.

I might add that I haven't missed more than two consecutive days of work from an illness for almost five years, so a non-vaccine approach does work for me. This non-drug approach has resulted in a level of health that continually amazes me, especially when I see other men and women my age who are miserable and without energy. Men and women who spend all too much of their time drifting from doctor to doctor in endless pursuit of solutions that don't get to the cause of their problems -- diet and life style.

Visit Chet's Health and Beyond (www.chetday.com) site which has lots of interesting and useful information.

DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: Chet Day is right on target here. He is one of the few newsletter writers that I am in virtual 100% agreement with.

I have heard some authors state that there is a direct correlation of the number of flu shots one has and the incidence of Alzheimer's. This would be due to the aluminum and mercury that is put in every flu shot.

I could not agree more with his recommendations. I am fond of providing the following answer to people who ask me if they should get a flu shot.

I tell them "Only if they want to get the flu".

I am glad to see Chet has gone for five years without missing two consecutive days of work. In the last 20 years though, I have not missed one day of work due to an illness. Now my diet and lifestyle program has NOT always been perfect, far from it. But for the most part I am following an optimized program.

The only miracle here though is that God has given us such wonderful bodies that if even come close to following an optimal diet, exercise and rest, we will have a high likelihood of immunity from illness.


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From www.alacercorp.com/aflu.htm:

FLU Vaccines 'Worthless'
Says Eminent FDA Virologist

By Jay Patrick

"There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway."

------Dr. J. Anthony Morris
"There is insufficient evidence to support routine vaccination of healthy persons of any age."


-------Paul Frame, M.D.,
Journal of Family Practice
Now come those great people of the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta to tell us that 80% of all seniors should rush out and get the latest "flu" shot. This is the same enterprising branch of the Federal Government that brought us in 1977 The Swine Flu Vaccine.

The "Flu" That Never Was

I wrote two articles on the subject at the time, discussing the hazards of the ridiculous vaccine that has been tossed together on an impromptu basis. The distinguished virologist, Dr. J. Anthony Morris, lost his job at the FDA because he warned his superiors that the vaccine was of no value. Further, as my articles stated, there was not a single case of swine flu in the country. There was no epidemic to control.

Yet some 128 people died promptly after getting the vaccine. What may be more important, 43,000,000 people were deceived into taking the vaccine. You may be sure too, that within most of these millions who are still alive the vaccine still lingers in their bodies, awaiting some metabolic change which might trigger viral activity, contributing to ill health or untimely death.

The latest flu vaccine is being produced by three companies and is of the killed virus type. Many producers of vaccines have dropped out of such activity because they fear the high cost of court judgements against them for side effects of such vaccines, which may bring on severe illness or death.

The whole, messy situation is well outlined in an article in the Wall Street Journal of January 16. Anyone considering the use of a vaccine should first read this article. Though chiefly concerned with a new chicken pox vaccine that may soon be available, offered by Merck and Co., the article dwells upon the life-long hazards that attend the use of a vaccine.

The Trojan Horse

You see, this type of live virus vaccine contains disease viruses which have been artificially weakened so that, hopefully, they are unable to induce symptoms of the disease yet are strong enough to fool the body into producing antibodies able to hold in check more virile disease viruses that may come along. But, once the damaged viruses are in the body, they present a life-time of risk. They may never recover their original strength, or they may mutate to produce some other disease that is as bad or worse than the ailment they were supposed to prevent.

At the present time, no one knows for sure just what can happen, as time goes by, with these weakened but still alive viruses.

"The chicken pox virus lurks in the body, " says The Wall Street Journal, "after the illness passes. For reasons that aren't understood, it sometimes reawakens when the subject is 60 or 70 years old to cause shingles, a nerve inflammation marked by pain and blisters."

Viruses are, as I have long observed, the major foe of all humanity. They are everywhere, they are indefatigable, resourceful, and immortal. They were a part of our very beginnings, and they are never going to leave us.

Once a virus is within one's body, only the person's immune system can protect him. It is then up to his immune system to keep it under control, to prevent its replication within hours to astronomical numbers that can soon defy counting. As stated, vaccines seek to fool the body into arming itself with antibodies in advance of any attack. But these fearless invaders can regain their strength, or change the DNA or RNA of which they are chiefly composed and start to harass or kill us off with some other disease source to which they have mutated.

Hope for the Future

The Journal comments that we may have much superior vaccines in the near future. Genetic engineers will be able to splice together proteins to make just that part of the virus that produces immunity, with none of the parts that produce disease."

As it now stands, children are often being forced to take vaccines that may later induce debilitating or fatal disease, and in many states children can be expelled from school if their parents refuse such dangerous vaccines. Many organizations have been formed to resist these arbitrary rulings by school boards.

What's To Do?

Right now, I am sure, our best hope lies in doing everything we can to keep our immune system hourly, day by day, in the best possible condition to repel the invaders. This involves a life style balanced with moderate exercise, adequate sleep, sunshine, good thoughts, good food, and supplementation of the diet with a wide variety of nutrients known to be required by the immune system.

For me, this must include a daily intake of at least 8 grams of timed released mineral ascorbates.



Re: Flu shots/oy!

Posted by
Rona on December 01, 2000 at 19:35:23:

In Reply to: Flu shots posted by R. on December 01, 2000 at 17:46:27:

It was me who posted that question on the shots. How I wish I could have read this stuff first.....



Re: Flu shots/oy!

Posted by
Vince F on December 01, 2000 at 19:49:39:

In Reply to: Re: Flu shots/oy! posted by Rona on December 01, 2000 at 19:35:23:

everyone has to decide for themselves. I Prefer Not to get
them. I have heard the flu was so devistating in 1918 because
it came from birds which we don't usually catch things from
birds but in asia geese are raised with pigs and pigs can
catch things from birds and it is thought that that is how
it was passed to humans.

The West Nile Virus causes me some concern and I heard
the latest flu shot is for a Panama strain. I heard about
6 farmers, I Believe in asia died from a bird virus.

If I was very weak I Might feel the shots were the least
of 2 evils but maybe not. After seeing that taking a multi
vit when I was very run down kept me from catching a cold
days later like I did a few times before at that time I
think I would try that and a multi mineral if i felt that
way again.

VF



Re: Flu shots (Archive in immunizations.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 03, 2000 at 10:03:18:

In Reply to: Flu shots posted by R. on December 01, 2000 at 17:46:27:

Thanks, R.

Walt



Pneumonia after Flu shots

Posted by
Antonio on December 03, 2000 at 19:26:04:

In Reply to: Flu shots posted by R. on December 01, 2000 at 17:46:27:

My mother, age 87, got pneumonia 48 hrs after getting her flu shot this year. It may or may not be a coincidence. This was the third year that she received the flu shot.


Antonio



Re: Pneumonia after Flu shots

Posted by kmd on December 03, 2000 at 23:00:19:

In Reply to: Pneumonia after Flu shots posted by Antonio on December 03, 2000 at 19:26:04:

Antonio,

Did she get the pneumonia secondarily after contracting the flu (from the shot)? Or did she simply get pneumonia without having the flu?



Re: Pneumonia after Flu shots

Posted by
Vince F on December 03, 2000 at 23:59:49:

In Reply to: Pneumonia after Flu shots posted by Antonio on December 03, 2000 at 19:26:04:

I have an asmatic woman friend who her and her husband got
the flu shot last yr and Both were hospitalized with
breating problems. She is asmatic and he was in ICU and died
She has been on IV antibiotics since geting out of the hospital and
was just feting on her feet able to walk and is back in with
some spinal problems that Seem unrelated since it is a bone
problem.

VF



Re: Pneumonia after Flu shots

Posted by Antonio on December 05, 2000 at 15:22:27:

In Reply to: Re: Pneumonia after Flu shots posted by kmd on December 03, 2000 at 23:00:19:

kmd:

I think she got the pneumonia w/o having the flu first. The symptoms started 48 hrs after the flu shot and by the 4th day, when I took her to the hospital, they diagnosed the pneumonia already.

Antonio



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