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Someone said to me today that we have to live every day like it was
our last, and of course I agreed with her because we were
commiserating about our parents’ deaths. People say that sort of
thing a lot…”live every day like it was your last.“ I think I know what
they mean. We have a finite amount of time to cram in all the things
we can think of that would be cool to do, so we should cram like
crazy right to the end.
But if you stop to think about it, it’s really silly. No one would go to
work! The world would stop in a matter of days. Everyone would be
going on vacation trips. Who would fly the planes? If you were going
to die tomorrow, would you spend the day flying a Jumbo Jet filled
with folks going off on their dream vacation? “And step on it, Mr.
Pilot, we gotta get to Provence quick. We have to get in the French
cooking and wine tasting class before sun up.”
And if you knew you were going to die tomorrow, would you go to
bed? Sleep? Shoot! You gotta be kidding! I don’t know what you’d
be doing, but not sleeping, or you’re dead already. Me? I’d probably
be doing just exactly what I’m doing now. That’s cool, but it’s just a
coincidence.
No, if you carry it out to its logical conclusion, I think you can see that
if we lived every day like it was our last it would quickly kill us all.
We’d starve in no time. Would you drive an eighteen wheeler to
deliver Groceries to Walmart if you were going to have to die
tomorrow? Would you go out and irrigate the crops?
Living every day like it was your last is not the answer. I don’t know
the answer. You have to figure out your own approach to this thing.
There are lots of ways to go. Believing in an afterlife is a good one,
then you can spend all your time being good and making ends meet
(or not) down here, because everything is free “up there” anyway.
Personally, I prefer denial. I try not to think about it. It is very
relaxing to think I have unlimited days to, say, make the bed, or fix
that chair over there. I have all the time I need to pen these thoughts,
which you’d never be reading if you knew this was your last day. In
fact, if you’ve gotten this far, you must think you have an afterlife.
But I go for denial. If the Grim Reaper shows up, treat him like some
crazy person at a Denny’s at 3:00AM. Keep focused on your
scrambled eggs, and don’t make eye contact. Never talk to him. Wait
till he gets distracted for a moment and leave your money and bill on
the counter (forget the change, you won’t need it if he gets you
anyway) and get to your car fast. Don’t look back, and drive off the
curb if you have to. You can make it. They don’t have cars.
Seriously though, if you don’t know when you are going to die, what’s
the point of taking it into consideration at all? Oh, sure, you want to
have a will and feel all grown up about it, but if someone invited you
to a party and wouldn’t tell you when it was…you’d be getting
dressed? I don’t think so. I’d say, “Well, if your party shows up in
front of my feet, then let’s boogie!”
Like this: You walk in the door, and you kinda have the feeling
something’s up. It’s a little quieter than usual. Your spouse has been
acting a little funny, and your birthday is tomorrow. The lights go on,
and you’re standing there, and all your dead relatives and friends
shout out “SURPRISE!!” and a Spectre floats into the room (the Denny’s
crazy guy) and the door bolts behind you.
Death seems to me like a "come as you are" surprise party. It's all
about attitude. I hope I don't blubber. Forrest Gump’s mom was
probably right, so you might as well enjoy the chocolate.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
well said, Jim H.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
Jim H,
That thinking comes from the Bible, to take some time each and reflect on the blessing of the life you have been given. Most of us don't think about death when we are young because we are invinciable. Only as we age do we relalize that this ( life ) won't last forever. So start doing some of the things you have been putting off and be thankful for every day of life.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
That is what I do
having survived
a life threatening illness
(to date)
enjoy each and every little thing
Life is precious..
the other thing is:
to live like it were your last day
some people might just be very quiet
and look at flowers
others might race about
we all have a different agenda
follow our own path
best on Yours
A new day awaits
.. Sedona...
as one of my mentors
Dr. Bernie Siegel says:
The Time is NOW
and
RISE ABOVE IT
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
there are a couple of nice country songs about this. One is Garth Brook's, "If tomorrow never comes" another, I forget the singer, is called "live like you were dying" which talks about going sky diving and rocky mountain climbing.
I'm wondering though, if you did know you were going to die soon, whether you might reflect on what's really important in your life-would think people would tend to choose the simple and familiar and spend time with people they care about-not sure vacations would make the top of the list
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
Hey, Jim H., you make me very glad I never made that statement. Gloriously amusing. I may never eat at a Denny's again, though, (well, I decided that a long time ago).
Your perceptions are becoming even more well-honed.
Is Sharon ready for your retirement?
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 08:04:18:
just a quick note here
I took a trip to my favorite
spot.. ocean when given my DX
which was not good
(wont discuss this any more here)
but.. off I went..
because I did not know
never regretted it either.
to date..
v. important to do what
is in your heart
S
also unless you walk in the shoes
one can never be sure what they would
or could do..
so.. each moment to me is a gift
and for all of us as well
:))
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 07:55:02:
My Bible doesn't say that, Steverino, really, does yours? The hope of living forever is entwined in the life and death of Jesus Christ and even Job asked if God would pluck him out of the grave.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
well...if we believe what God has said in the Bible, we will be alive tomorrow-the real us, our spirit...the question is where will we go the next moment after this body dies? heaven or? let's make that decision today that God has given us to make NOW
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
not knowing when we will die makes life interesting. My dad had a massive heart attack at 68 doing everything you were supposed to back then, and lived till 84. I'm a few yrs younger than when he had the attack, and runing into some of the things that he did, with high blood pressure. I want to lift weights and trying to decide how to handle the BP. Dad cut salt and went on BP meds, but wasn't into doing anything too strenuous, though he walked a lot,and worked on things, but never to extremes.
I have a friend my age who is damaged from surgery who is on lots of drugs for different things, and worries about dieing, or being incapacitated by a stroke. Since I take after my grandfather who lived to 104 and didn't listen to anyone about anything and had some things that should have slowed him down, but didn't, and a hospital had to kill him, I tend to think I may follow him. Knowing what problems he had, and enlarged heart and aortic anuerism, I want to try to avoid those problems, or not do things intentionally to bring them on, and if I do, like smoking, understand some things could happen.
Reading that BP meds can be as dangerous as not taking them, I want a different solution. Frustrating that I want to lift, but don't want to do damage that I could cause, so have to work on things, and learn all I can. I want to live like I want to, but not shorten my life by maybe 40yrs, but do I want to be frustrated for 40? I have enough dreams and plans for 40, so Guess I'll see how many I accomplish.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Sally [1945.1192] on April 06, 2006 at 09:02:24:
Sally,
Try Ps. 36:7,9 " How precious your loving-kindness is, O God!...with you is the source of life. "
Or Acts 17:24,25, 28. " The God that made the world and all the things in it...gives to all persons life and breath and all things. For by him we have life and move and exist. "
That's what mine says, how about yours?
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Sally [1945.1192] on April 06, 2006 at 09:02:24:
they say the mamillian heart is good for 4 Billion heart beats max, which works out to about 125yrs, depending on how high or low your heart rate is or what you you do, so I'm aiming for that, and will worry about the hereafter after.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 10:15:37:
Vince,
Is that with or without proper maintance?
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Hi Ann... posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 06, 2006 at 08:15:04:
when I read vacation trips, I thought of hustle and bustle of activity-things to see, things to do,shopping, and-yuk!-airplanes and all the hassle they entail.
Spending some time with Nature, as you contemplate becoming part of it (dust to dust) or as you have to make the decision of what path to take after the DX is a different concept to me.
My little boy came close to dying 8 years ago. It made a major impact on my priorities.
9/11 was another reminder , with an attack on America, that we shouldn't ignore the present in favor of the future- who knows if there is a future, individually or collectively? I was glad, on that day, that my parents were already dead-that they hadn't lived to see that attack. My MIL, who was dying of cancer at age 90, stopped eating 9/11/2001. She died a week later- guess she gave up on both the present and the future. Hope she met up with the dozens of dogs and cats she cared for in her lifetime, when she got to the other side. Her last dog that we were caring for died right after she did-think she wanted him there with her.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
Hi Jim:
Your writings are always a joy to read:-) But you know, I couldn't live every day as if it were my last. The weight gain would be unbearable, not to mention quite unsightly. To live every day as if it were my last would mean removing every restriction I've worked so hard to adhere to....like eating and drinking in moderation and limiting sugar intake. There would be nothing to look forward to....no dreaming of possibilities, therefore, no hope. And, don't you know that the place of no hope is the entrance to hell? Dante said so!
Therefore, I say there is a tomorrow, and I plan on seeing it....Don't think I'll "go gentle into that good night"....No, siree, Bob. I'm going kicking and screaming. Yes, there is a tomorrow. Tomorrow is hope. Tomorrow is for the living and for all the lovers of life.
Grim Reaper might be at my back, but I think I can outrun him. I'm young and swift. He's slow and methodical. But,...well...uh. eventually he does catch up. And even then, there will still be a tomorrow,....with or without me.
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 10:43:35:
what is proper maintance? Dad thought he was doing it and made it to 84. Gramps said it was BS.. Just like religion. He called religion a Fantasy...
Gramps was a perfect gentleman till pushed. Cursed out mom Real good when she bugged him about things that he could care less about at 99, and at 102 threw a pillow at a real pretty, young social worker in the home he was moved into to try to slow him down, because she wouldn't stop pestering him to do something. I told her she Couldn't push him to do Anything he didn't want to. I knew him and wouldn't even try, since I'm the same way. I was more tactful when he would try to push me. I wouldn't get to cursing, but tell him he was treating me like a stranger, and if he didn't quit I was gona treat him like one. That would make him laugh and stop.
When I asked her to try to introduce him to other italians who might be on other floors that they weren't allowed to go to on their own, since it might make his time there more enjoyable. She said, she wasn't going to get him a Bed Partner.. I told her she didn't have to. If he wanted one, he would get one.
He liked her a good bit, and would only get into bed to raise his legs if she or a nurse gave him a kiss. He would get out as soon as they left.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 06, 2006 at 11:33:39:
Yeah if I lived every day like it was my last I'd get so stoned every day I wouldn't know if I was coming or going or WHAT day it was.
LOL.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
it's a sesame street movie. Buy it for a young friend or relative and watch it with them. Elmo helps out Santa, so Santa grants him a wish. Elmo wishes every day could be Christmas. Finds out, from experience, that it isn't desirable.
Think Art Carney played Santa.
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 11:56:12:
We can learn from Gramps. I will remember doing what they ask if I get a kiss.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Hi Sedona posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 11:09:10:
VERY SIMPLE..
i AM A NATURE LOVER
LOVE BIRDS..
OCEAN WATER MOUNTAINS
WHATEVER.. AND
AM HAPPY WITH SIMPLE THINGS IN LIFE
BUT MY FAV SPOT AS YOU KNOW
IS mAINE. .OCEAN..
JUST ADORE IT THERE
...
TAKE CARE...
TODAY i AM ENJOYING MY CHOCOLATE CAKE
LIKE Dr. Says.. :)) LOL
S
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 06, 2006 at 11:33:39:
Philly Lady,
You have a way of saying what we are thinking.Personally I can't wait for tomorrow.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Hi Sedona posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 11:09:10:
quite a headache..
so therefore I am v. glad
I did that trip 5 yrs ago
now passports etc.
however..
as I said..
i take it one day at a time
little steps
and enjoy the nice people
and scenery around me
Sedona
:)
Sorry for your losses
Anne
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by lissa [2032.23] on April 06, 2006 at 12:08:34:
Hey Lissa:
Just think, there are people who live like that:-)
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 06, 2006 at 12:20:57:
Hi PL,
I was just thinking that actually.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 12:17:02:
Steve:
Most people can't wait for tomorrow, they love life so much....And yet the irony is that facing another tomorrow brings us closer to our own personal "Final Tomorrow". Guess, that's the Mother of All Tomorrows:-)
In Reply to: ahh.. Bless Mom's heart Ann.. we all have to decide for ourself.. vacation to me posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 06, 2006 at 12:13:51:
always trying to balance sensible eating with the need for joy and pleasure , so that it's more about the journay than the destination.
Maine is pretty -I spent some time sitting on top of a potato house there, writing poetry. Inside a potato house is nice and cool in summer, as it's a barn dug into a hill, so has a partially earthen interior.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
Very enjoyable Jim! I have often thought the same thing.(although Denny's never came up!)
I think the key is to be "ready" for it to be your last day.Don't put stuff off you really want to do. Make sure you are at peace with God and man to the best of your abilility. Don't put off searching for meaning in life, or making amends, or taking care of yourself...be ready for it to be the last day AND/OR the first day of the rest of your life.
Oh, and occasionally have beer and pizza.;)
In Reply to: chocolate cake posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 12:32:03:
keep eating the chocolate cake and you may live forever, or as long as you would want to.
A dutch study said that eating chocolate was beneficial and increased lifespan with fewer strokes or heart attacks, no matter the weight, blood pressure, or diet of those in the study. I knew the chocolate cake I eat was a health food.
Just heard the guy who invented Twinkies just died at 88. He chain smoked and had 3 Twinkies every night before bed. Now if they would have been chocolate Twinkies... I miss the Tiger Tail ones.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 06, 2006 at 12:25:06:
yesterday is gone and tomorrow never comes, because it is Always NOW...
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 15:05:17:
Tomorrow comes on Someday Isle.
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 12:13:44:
then you'll be a dirty old man also.
Gramps used to like to go into center city and girl watch. I saw him once when stoped for a light, when he was 99. Then I realized where he would get the sample pacs of cigaretts he would often ask me if I smoked the brand and wanted.
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Sounder [1667.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 15:09:03:
is that Fantasy Island were De Plane lands ??))
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 15:12:19:
Dirty old men need love too. Most men are dead long before 99 and can't do any girl watching.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 13:46:17:
I was never tempted by regular twinkies, but chocodiles (chocolate coated twinkies) were good. I also liked Entenmanns Marshmallow Fudge cake.
I've raised my kids with plain baking cocoa powder to sprinkle on their rice dream or blend into their soy milk. We get sunspire's earth balls (a ball of dark chocolate wrapped to look like the globe) that is sweetened with barley malt and has no dairy, so we can indulged the need for chocolate without the bad ingredients sometimes mixed up with chocolate products-I figure, if the kids don't start out with the sugared stuff, the natural stuff is what they'll crave and have fond memories of. We make chocolate cake, snack bars, and cookie cutter cookies, all using honey and baking cocoa owder.
My kid who can't have wheat recently tasted Clif's nectar bars- he's hooked on the chocolate walnut ones now .
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 15:25:14:
never saw Chocodilies, and only remember the rasberry coated Tiger Tales in NC.
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 15:33:36:
chocodiles were maybe mid-70's, east coast-they might have had them in Philly then. Did you live in NC or just passing through?
I used to like Minarets, too- Nabisco- a smaller version of mallomars that tasted better than them-more chocolate taste, less sweet.
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 15:50:32:
I lived in NC for 3 yrs in the 60's. Maybe I just didn't run into the chocolate ones.
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 15:15:50:
when you stop watching girls, might as well be dead.
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 15:25:14:
and that is v. interesting about the Potatoes
Anne... tks for sharing.. :))
S
In Reply to: Re: chocolate cake posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 16:03:15:
oo
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by coldjam [266.10] on April 06, 2006 at 12:33:04:
oo
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
I remember reading a study on AIDS patients while I was in grad school that reported many of the patients (well over 80% of the some 200 studied) had a higher quality of life AFTER they were diagnosed. They took better care of themselves, each moment became more precious and they took advantage of the moments they had left--not to indulge themselves--but to BETTER themselves and to help others. It was really a very heartwarming study. I think in coming to terms with their death sentence illness (and remember in the early 90s it was a death sentence) they found out what it meant to live each day as though they were dying.
Anita
In Reply to: love raspberry and chcolate... of course.. LOL S.. :)) posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 06, 2006 at 19:19:16:
reminding me of the best pie I ever had at the Washington's Crossing Inn. Grahmn cracker and shaved chocolate crust, home made vanilla ice cream with rasberry preserves on top.
In Reply to: There is no tomorrow? posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 06, 2006 at 06:35:45:
…I hit a hot button here!
It’s not just the aging experience, but also the fact of my father’s
death in December, and the reality of my mother-in-law, who is
presently in ICU on a ventilator, that has brought thoughts of my
temporal existence to the forefront. I know it has been on your mind
too…in Spades!
Although it was written tongue-in-cheek, I did manage to make the
point that the very personal matter of reconciliation is, in deed, highly
individual. The thread bears me out.
I am warmed not only by those who appreciate my humor, but by
those who have expressed thoughtful, heartfelt opinions (brain),
feelings (heart), and Philly (second brain, wherein lies the spiritual
significance of dessert), and the rowdy board regulars who trailed off
into a Twinkie/chocolate food-fight/fudge-wrestling thread.
On the opinion side, I am reminded that there are two kinds of people
in the world, those who tend to classify people, and those who make
fun of themselves. I wonder which one I am. ? It's a koan. :)
Peace, my friend.
In Reply to: right.. & dont forget to give people hugs.. and say you Love them... LOL Sedona posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 06, 2006 at 19:20:34:
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Max Life? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 16:04:52:
SF!
In Reply to: Re: OK..(((Huggs))) I love you.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 07:57:25:
ppp
In Reply to: see Elmo Saves Christmas posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 06, 2006 at 12:10:11:
we are dealt cards in life
and there is good and bad
and we need one to compare the other
I would prefer to not have
had a CA DX..
but now I help out so many others
have met wonderful people
and improved.. many areas
in my life
blessings to you today
I do like ART CARney.. too funny
:)
S..
In Reply to: Re: love raspberry and chcolate... of course.. LOL S.. :)) posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 07, 2006 at 00:43:15:
one by Mail.. ok..
LOL
S :))
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 06, 2006 at 15:05:17:
Hey Vince:
Yes, it is always now. But the anticipation of a tomorrow is what keeps mankind dreaming, planning, plotting, and rejoicing....but maybe not if you're on death row:-)
In Reply to: oh no.. not grahams.. another fav.. we dont get all that up here.. plse send me posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 07, 2006 at 08:24:57:
don't know if it could be mailed. I went back to have it again, and it had been frozen, and didn't taste the same. Maybe it could be made to make it yourself. Ready made crust and small jar of preserves, and you have to get the ice cream.)
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 07, 2006 at 08:49:21:
How about planning you last meal:(
Silver Fox
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 08:00:41:
Okay boys....time to take your Metamucil!
In Reply to: Re: There is no tomorrow? posted by PhillyLady [5444.1536] on April 07, 2006 at 08:49:21:
well, you know what happens to milk, when cows aren't contented.)
I think you have to multi task and have dreams and desires in the background. Sort of inch your way to them, instead of being too occupied with them. If you understand zen, it becomes easy. Doing by Not doing.
I have lots of dreams and desires, but they aren't coming true. I figure they will when I am physically and mentally capable. Then I think about how difficult they will be, and maybe it is good I'm not ready, since the work might outweigh the joys.
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Mari [2251.1462] on April 07, 2006 at 09:10:14:
that's for OLD people.)) Guess next you'll be mentioning prunes...
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 07, 2006 at 09:41:21:
L.O.L!! Sorry...didn't mean to offend you guys.I just thought as you all were describing how you would be in your old age that it was time to evacuate!
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Mari [2251.1462] on April 07, 2006 at 10:03:29:
This is just guy talk. You can still chase girls when you get older, just make sure your going down hill :)
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 10:19:08:
is that like the old bull and young bull talking about cows??)
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Mari [2251.1462] on April 07, 2006 at 10:03:29:
what do you mean Would be in old age?)) Age is relative anyway.
In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 07, 2006 at 10:21:52:
Yes, you know the story? The young bull says to the old bull, " Lets run down the hill and screw one of those cows." The old bull answers, " Lets walk down the hill and screw them all." You sure get smart when you get older, eh!
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: well right back at ya.. there.. S. Fox.. have a great weekend... nt posted by Sedona... [4706.10] on April 07, 2006 at 08:21:36:
WEll gee if you two don't mind, I could use ((a hug)) too!:)
In Reply to: Re: well right back at ya.. there.. S. Fox.. have a great weekend... nt posted by coldjam [266.10] on April 07, 2006 at 11:16:19:
Get in line, there's plenty to go around :)
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Will you look at this thread, Walt... posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 07, 2006 at 04:06:14:
Jim H,
So you want Walt to bail you out. And what is he going to do to come to your aid?
Ok, pretend I'm Walt: " Wow Jim, what a great post. You have such insite about us mortals." How's that, feel better?
Silver Fox!( Pulling Jim's leg. )
In Reply to: Re: Will you look at this thread, Walt... No, but I will.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 13:04:18:
Don't worry Jim, I will be out of town next week, so I won't be arround to bug you.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Hi Ann.. I agree.. posted by Sedona [4706.10] on April 07, 2006 at 08:23:59:
he was in a cute movie with Lily Tomlin-think it was a detective story of some kind.
In Reply to: Re: well right back at ya.. there.. S. Fox.. have a great weekend... nt posted by coldjam [266.10] on April 07, 2006 at 11:16:19:
where are you
have to know
get the LLama out
to bring it to you
S.
In Reply to: Re: Hi Ann.. I agree.. posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 07, 2006 at 16:58:56:
pp
In Reply to: Re: oh no.. not grahams.. another fav.. we dont get all that up here.. plse send me posted by Vince F [4572.9] on April 07, 2006 at 08:52:16:
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In Reply to: Re: Amen brother.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 10:42:30:
No comment,I'm udderly shocked!!
In Reply to: Will you look at this thread, Walt... posted by Jim H. [1652.2562] on April 07, 2006 at 04:06:14:
Thanks, Jim.
"Oh, ye of little faith." I have been following this thread all along and enjoying it.
Recognizing our mortality, as well as recognizing that the horrors of the end time of life can be a lot worse than recognizing mortality, eventually comes to most of us. In a truly civilized society assisted suicide for those who choose to limit the suffering when all hope of recovery is gone, will be a standard choice.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Will you look at this thread, Walt... No, but I will.. posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 13:08:16:
I didn’t think I needed bailing, you ornery troublemaker. Bug me all
you want I have thick skin. :) It’s hard to get inflection and intent
across on a board sometimes. I should have used words like “Wow,
Walt, will you just look at the responses my post kicked off!...it was
really just a segue to a few additional comments I wanted to
make...you twit! (smiling again). I know Walt reads all this stuff. I
have resisted fishing for praise, though we all, even tricksters like
you, love it! Admit it! I appreciate your own spirit of openness and
willingness to help, which are reflected in your posts...and you can
needle with the best of them. There! Bask in that!
I got some emails over this post. Some thought it offensive, which is
amusing, since I was making fun of myself. I loved the board
responses, most especially Philly’s and the dessert string. Vince’s
cows had me laughing. But do you see the problem there? If one
carries out the absurd notion that suddenly everyone starts acting
like there is no tomorrow, we have bands of guys wandering about
looking for girls (guys are just so disgusting), but unable to find any
because they all in the supermarkets pigging in the frozen dairy
section. Ha!
Some responses related to living in the perspective of the reality of
our pending death. If we all did that, out front, daily, what a
wonderful world it would be.. Sedona’s got the ticket, and maybe it
does take a life altering brush with death to get one living that way.
My satire, of course, was about the logical absurdity of everybody in
our crazy world finding out simultaneously that they won’t be here
tomorrow. Doubt many would take a twenty-four hour crash course
in self-introspection and nature-inspired musing. Ice cream and
bulls are more likely.
Moral insight, Silver Fox? Me? See, that’s the other thing about board
life. Because I can write sweet little stories of heartwarming moments
(except for the obscure spiritual ramblings and nature poems I
sometimes (perhaps unwisely) post here doesn’t mean I have
anything other than a completely demagnetized moral compass. For
the record, I pretty much make things up as I go along. Am I a moral
relativist? And I know you are only kidding, but I think many of us
make assumptions from the tailored contributions posted here.
But I hove no point of view to proselytize, except this: Hey open your
eyes! Great moments of soul live in the most mundane acts. What
route you take after you open your eyes is your own individual
business. I’m for non-denominational consciousness.
Jim
In Reply to: Re: Will you look at this thread, Walt... posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 08, 2006 at 07:50:53:
Well said, Walt, and my heart reacts to the perspective from which you
speak. In fact it bleeds for you. (I can be sappy)
I know you read this stuff, Walt. As I said to Fox Boy (Take that,
Steve!), is was only a segue to further comment.
Also, as a physician, you've been intimately involved with the
"horrors" of which you speak. I amd watching that happen now with
MIL ventilated in ICU, with recent toe-ectomy from seleroderma,
congestive heart failure, and a stubborn pneumonia. It is no wonder
to me she is tugging at her tubes.
And, Walt, I will resist the urge to detail the poor treatment. I could
go on. This I can tell you: One should never be hospitalized with out
family policing. With the practice of staffing with three-day, twelve-
hour work weeks, Sharon must go in each day and brief the nurses,
even after morning report, since they will never read through the
reams of charting to keep current...even in ICU. And the specialist
docs don't communicate! See, now I'm doing what I said I wouldn't
do.
But I want to pass this one thing along. When the family approached
the surgeon (read: arrogant prima donna) about arranging rehab, he
replied, "Naw, she doesn't need rehab. She can walk on her heel." I
know this does not surprise you.
My best,
Jim
In Reply to: threadbare posted by Jim H. [1595.2562] on April 08, 2006 at 08:58:33:
Yay! Jim.
Walt
In Reply to: threadbare posted by Jim H. [1595.2562] on April 08, 2006 at 08:58:33:
Singye, the big galoot, released another rat from its mortal coil last night. Left it by the back door for us humans to oohh and ahh over. He lives life just like you preach it, brother, nondenominational, nonsectarian, and totally in the gluttonous, marrow-sucking moment. P.S. You are one awesome human being, Conscious Jim! Yowsa!
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