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Food Intolerances

Posted by
Michelle on April 21, 2002 at 23:17:23:

I posted awhile ago about chronic laryngitis and achyness, and received responses that indicated bracing was my primary problem and I was in desperate need of SR. While I agree with this, I am having a huge problem with food right now..to the point where I cannot function for days on end to even get to where I can learn about SR. I cannot tolerate any food very well. I am eating only whole foods, nothing processed, and lots of veggies. However, every time I eat, I get completely spacey and weak and emotionally distraught after I eat...I then have to lie down and end up sleeping for the better part of the next 3 days. Then, I feel better, and eat again and the cycle happens again. I feel best after not eating and then eating a good balanced meal. Then, after eating for a few days, I go back into the same cycle. I do not know what to do as I cannot keep avoiding food. This all started after radically changing my diet in January to one of mainly veges, seeds, and nuts, and fresh juices. Then, after an initial period of feeling great, I got a terrible viral infection and have never really recovered. I am spacey and weak and unable to work. I have had to take a medical leave of absence. I do not know what to do. I already have aborted the mainly raw diet back in February when I first got sick, and have gone to a less radical diet of steamed veges, fruit, fish, and some grains. This seems to be healthy but I have never felt worse. Actually, the only foods that seem to snap me out of this are cranberry juice and Luna power bars, both of which are somewhat processed. I do not know what is wrong with me or why I am having all of these food intolerances. I am starting to avoid food which is not good. I am seeing a naturopath who tested for food allergies...I am waiting on results. I have always had allergies and food sensitivities, but never anything as debilitating as this and I do not what to do.



Re: Food Intolerances

Posted by Terri-Lynn on April 22, 2002 at 00:05:58:

In Reply to: Food Intolerances posted by Michelle on April 21, 2002 at 23:17:23:

I'm an intuitive not a doctor;
Leeky Gut! Candida, look into these things. Start with taking a good acidophillus, smart move seeing someone that can check you out. The other thing i feel is your interpeting the healing crisis you were going thru as a problem with the foods you were always eating, but sometimes you were going thru a candida die off and a healing from getting off of the processed foods ect. A healing crisis happens around the 3rd day getting off of some of the trigger foods, sometimes the healing crisis happens the day after.
It would be best to find a person who can help walk you thru things and be there for the process, because fear is the worst thing to be into; Wellness Confidence, knowing that you are heading towards a healthy body and taking action little by little and you'll get there. Your body did not get that way over night and it is a process;



Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 22, 2002 at 09:33:54:

In Reply to: Food Intolerances posted by Michelle on April 21, 2002 at 23:17:23:

Hi, Michelle.

Listen to Terri-Lynn (Thanks Terri-Lynn.)

When causes are not dealt with early (Like back when you first started with food sensitivitues.) every year that goes by reduces your options.

It is sad to see someone first who is already at your stage of this process!

You would best be served by seeing a good clinical ecologist while you are dealing with the causes of your LGS.

In the meantime, start a meticulous diary of your intake and your symptoms. Any CE, worth his salt, will be glad to see that record!

Next, to help your symptoms sooner, you are going to have to start eating only stuff you have NEVER eaten before in your life.

I hear baked platypus is pretty good :>).

The wider variety of things you have never eaten before you try, the less likely that you will begin to react to any before your LGS has been resolved and new hypersensitivities should not develop.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by
Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 14:15:30:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Walt Stoll on April 22, 2002 at 09:33:54:

Yes, this helps, thank you for your quick reply. I have a few more questions:
1) About the healing crisis: That is what people were telling me when I first started the raw whole foods plan; however, it went on for almost 6 weeks before my body totally broke down with the laryngitis and weakness...whenever I hear people talk about the healing crisis is seems to pass within a few days. During this time, I felt more emotionally balanced yet physically I was falling apart. Also, before this, I was eating pretty healthy vegetarian...and feeling better than I am now...even though the diet contained much more processed food...albeit processed "health" food..if there is such a thing. I don't understand why so much better food is making me ill.

2) The doc I am seeing is a naturopath...is a clinical ecologist different? Where would I find a clinical ecologist? This doc did a live blood cell analysis and said I had some, but only a little, candida. Can a person have LGS without much candida?

3)I have been following the ER4YT diet as well as proper food combining rules since January...alot of the things I have never eaten (or at least not in a long time) are the traditional meats etc..things not in my Type A diet...should I try these anyway? I have been wondering if I am eating the wrong metabollic type diet or maybe this is not even the issue right now? I am confused.

4) I have also been diagnosed hypothryroid and adrenal dysfunction. I am assuming all of these are related?

5) Sugar in fruit juice and processed food does seem to make me feel better for the moment. Does this mean I should avoid it?

Thank you in advance....Michelle



Re: Food Intolerances

Posted by ANGEL D. on April 22, 2002 at 16:08:45:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances posted by Terri-Lynn on April 22, 2002 at 00:05:58:

i HAVE AHOW DO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BREAST CANCER? CAUSE I AM DOING A REPORT IN L.A. CLASS AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BREASR CANCER.

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Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by
Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 16:36:36:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 14:15:30:

I had a few more questions as I was doing research on LGS.
There seem to be a large number of proponents to eat lots of raw food to help with LGS..however, my naturopath now said I am eating too many raw foods. I am confused on whether raw food helps or hurts? Also, I have read conflicting research on probiotics...are they a help or a hindrance? Also, is a protein powder a good source of food for me right now or is that considered processed and not helpful?
Thank you again. Michelle



Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Terri-Lynn on April 22, 2002 at 17:23:58:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 16:36:36:

Listen to the doctor you are curently going to also, he is right in this area and seems to be helping you find some major pieces. I think you might be doing to many raw foods, and a person that has had or does have LGS, has to not go to far off the deep end with raw foods.
Raw food can also irritate a person if over done at certain stages of our growth.
I can tell you the worrying is to much for your body, just let go a little and trust your getting all the pieces of the puzzle and moving forward.

Probiotics, for you feels good, ask your physician;

Protein Powder, well finding one without sugar is the key here; Careful not to do to much soy at this time either. I use a brand that has egg white protein in it.

Healing crisis, Last a few days and then can ease up, but candida die off can be off and on through out cleansing.Depending how strict and how many things you remove on, is how the body detox's;

The Mind, Body and Spirit remember-Physical, mental, emotional, spiritual is important; Which do you feel out now? Our symptoms are not always to be blamed on the food we eat. Take a deep breath and do SR!



Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by
Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 18:29:34:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Terri-Lynn on April 22, 2002 at 17:23:58:

Thanks, Terri. That was helpful. I know the mind spirit connection is just as important, if not more so. I get so caught up in the food end because I feel it is such a challenge and one that has to be faced 3 times a day at least! For me, I know the food piece is huge..sometimes I am feeling great...and then wham! I eat something and I am all out of sorts. At the very least, I eat and am exhausted and spacey afterwards. I guess while I was doing raw foods I was feeling great until one day I wasn't . It sure seemed to be helping with a lot of problems.
I guess that brings me to another question. I guess I feel if I knew what was safe food, I would just eat that and stop worrying. The trouble is, everyone has an opinion of what is safe food at this point. So, I guess my question is, what would a typical day of food look like? What should a typical LGS person be eating for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

Thanks...Michelle



Re: Food Intolerances SCD diet(Archive in LGS.)

Posted by
Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 23:57:24:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 18:29:34:

I was reading the archives about the SCD diet..it sounded interesting. I was curious for feedback on this diet..would it be appropriate for me? Dr. Stoll...what is your opinion of this diet?
Thanks...Michelle



Re: Food Intolerances SCD diet(Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 23, 2002 at 11:24:02:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances SCD diet(Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 23:57:24:

Sorry, Michelle.

I am blocking on what is the SCD diet.

Walt



Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 23, 2002 at 11:28:00:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 14:15:30:

Hi, Michelle.

The "healing crisis", if that is what it was, should not have lasted nearly that long.

A clinical Ecologist VERY different from a Naturopath.

I think they are all related.

Remember that even an alcoholic "feels better" after his first drink of the day.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Terri-Lynn on April 23, 2002 at 16:17:38:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances (Archive in LGS.) posted by Michelle on April 22, 2002 at 18:29:34:

I guess the key i hear from you is that you fear a little around eating;
Let your body guide you and thank it when you react from something and try another direction. Some things are done intuitive;
You see if your thinking is doing well then you might be able to handle raw food better that day and if you emotional upset then you might need to eat cooked food that day;
Use the gift of Intuition and thank the body for telling you, later you'll really know the right actions to take; I would also gather the technical part of it, but not make that my always thing; Healthy Food that is the main thing!
Example;
Vegetable juice maybe for breakfast, salaid and chicken for lunch, steamed vegetables and poatatoes or rice for dinner; Like that; Maybe Rice sometimes for breakfast with an apple cut up in it and then a piece of millet bread with almond butter later on in the day and more steamed vegetables, that is the main thing to think vegetables-ha! If this example does not work for you leave the something out and try another thing; Your body is guiding you not just one therory!

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Re: Food Intolerances

Posted by Serge C. on April 24, 2002 at 12:49:26:

In Reply to: Food Intolerances posted by Michelle on April 21, 2002 at 23:17:23:

Michelle,

Your problem is probably not only related to food intolerances, but also related to a specific metabolism you might have got.

If you are a Hunter-Gatherer, eating raw vegetables will only worsen your case. Eggs or soy based protein powder may also worsen your case. You may simply need MEAT and FAT. Of course, raw fish is certainly good too, but is not sustaining enough for an extreme H-G.

You need to pass through an elimination diet to find your true intolerances and to find your metabolism.

Look for Robert McFerran's stuff at this address:

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/rwgully/theories.htm

You should also look there:

http://www.westonaprice.org/

and you might also read the book Biobalance.

Don't follow ER4YT. I am also an A, and you would not believe the diet I am following (mainly meat proteins, fat and purines, no grains). Only the lectin question seams to be valuable in the theory of D'Adamo, but it doesn't tell you what kind of metabolism you have.

I don't understand why those who answered you so far did not told you that.

Serge





Re: Food Intolerances

Posted by
Michelle on April 24, 2002 at 19:33:15:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances posted by Serge C. on April 24, 2002 at 12:49:26:

Thanks,Serge. I have just started to look into this idea. I do feel better when I eat more protein. I have been eating more fish and turkey and it seems to help. I just bought the book Metabollic Typing by Wolcott...are his metabollic type ideas similar to McFerran's or are the ideas completely different? I have not got up enough guts to try red meat yet....haven't eaten it in about 8 years and not sure if I will be able to digest. I will probably try, though, and see what happens. I do have a question, though. At this moment, I cannot digest beans or rice or raw nuts and nut butters very well. Don't know if that is due to metabollic type or condition of leaky gut. Any thoughts? Also, how do you personally do with nuts and beans? From the sounds of it, you don't eat grains. Thanks...I appreciate the feedback.



I think it's the Specific Carb Diet by...

Posted by LT on April 25, 2002 at 03:17:05:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances SCD diet(Archive in LGS.) posted by Walt Stoll on April 23, 2002 at 11:24:02:

Gottschall. I'm not doing it justice at all, but I *think* it's a low-carb, low-sugar, no-processed food diet, but it's much more complicated than that. I looked at it when I was trying to find a diet for my dog :-)



Re: Food Intolerances

Posted by Serge C. on April 25, 2002 at 13:11:44:

In Reply to: Re: Food Intolerances posted by Michelle on April 24, 2002 at 19:33:15:

Michelle,

Never heard about the book Metabolic Typing by Wolcott. I have got to read it probably and I will eventually. I still recommand you the work of Robert because the question of disovering your offending foods is very important and many people here are aware of that stuff and will be able to help you.

Why did you stop eating red meat 8 years ago? Did your health problems started BEFORE of AFTER you stopped eating red meat?

It is useles for you to know how I personnaly react to one thing or another, unless your metabolism is the same as me, which we don't know. However, IF you are a Hunter-Gatherer, your are killing yourself by avoiding red meat.

Since you haven't eaten it for 8 years, you can't have an immune hypersensitivity to it, then you have nothing to loose by trying it, especially if eating fish and turkey already help. You could start with lamb if you are affraid of beef, but grass-fed organic beef would probably be your best choice. For your digestion concerns, you could maybe use digestive enzymes. I don't know. Try to get some help from "Helping You" on this board. Personnaly, I would not be concerned about it.

Eating raw nuts is probably not a good idea.

Serge


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Re: I think it's the Specific Carb Diet by...

Posted by
Michelle on April 25, 2002 at 13:29:57:

In Reply to: I think it's the Specific Carb Diet by... posted by LT on April 25, 2002 at 03:17:05:

Yes, it is the Specific Carbohydrate Diet which excludes all grains, lactose, and sucrose. I have figured out by trial and error lately that grains and some beans I cannot digest..so I guess, in a way, I am already heading towards the diet.

I have some more questions. Let me say at this point that I have been immersed in the archives for days and find them to be extremely helpful. Am starting SR as well. So here are my questions based on what I have gathered on this website:

1) About GERD: When I eat something I cannot digest, I am followed by a day and night of GERD, which mainly affects my vocal cords, hence my hoarseness. Have read about the ginger quick-help, and am trying it. My question is..it seems to burn my throat and esophogus on the way down, and I am wondering since my GERD affects mainly those areas, is the ginger going to make that burning worse and cause damage? I do not get typical heartburn with my GERD...mostly the vocal cord thing.

2) About Primal Defense: I am taking a product called Replete (acidopholus and bifidophulus in FOS) prescribed by my doc. Is PD similar or better ?

3) About hydrochloric acid: It seems that some people are low in hydrochloric acid and adding this can help? Is hydrocholoric acid different than food enzymes which I take? How does one know which is the most appropriate?

4) About diet: I have been eating more cooked foods and more protein, and I feel stronger, yet I have headaches and trouble digesting. Can't tell if it's affected my energy or not..I definitely have more strength. I guess it's all a trial and error process.

Finally, I do know the long term key is SR and bodymind unity...I am working on this. In meantime, I am trying to take care of some of these other problems to jumpstart my life back, so any info is helpful, as some symptom relief goes along way towards having the physical energy to keep at this! Thank you!

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