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Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

I have read about dozens of different candidiasis treatment programs and diets..... all claim to work although they contradict on alot of points. Yet after looking at this and a few other forums, I have yet seen a single person who said that they beat the yeast and were able to return to a normal (albeit healthier diet-wise) lifestyle.

My doctor has me on several natural supplements and a very restrictive diet. I have been on this for 5 weeks now and frankly, I feel no different than I did when I started (except I am hungrier and losing weight fast). I still have the aches and pains in the gut, still have the joint pains etc. I have started SR and that helps me sleep better.

So....... has anyone here actually been able to stop taking the very expensive supplements (convenietly sold by the doctor himself) or is the caprylic acid/grapefruit seed/ a bunch of other stuff just a gimic to keep us buying $100 worth of stuff a month for ever?

Always the skeptic,
LL



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Rick on June 26, 2002 at 19:05:47:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

Hi LL - I beat Systemic Cadida/Leaky Gut but it's not an easy job and it takes up to a year to complete the healing program which gave me back my health and happiness. I now suggest to others what they can do to help themselves by having them answer a Questionnaire - which helps me to "ALERT" them to the changes they need to make in order to reverse their health problems. If you would like for me to email you a Questionnaire - contact me at
(alternative.health@verizon.net) * Rick *

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Yes.

Posted by labrat on June 26, 2002 at 20:03:00:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

I also "beat" it. I got my levels back to normal. It took about a year on a very restricted diet, Skilled Relaxation and lots of exercise.

What do you mean by a "normal" life style? If I start eating like I did before I got candida, then I get a flare up. If I continue eating that way (which wasn't really poorly to begin with), I get chronic fatigue, sinus infections, etc.

I don't take a lot of those supplements, though I did try a lot of them while I was still sick. I used Nystatin for about 9 months I think, while I was using the very strict WHOLE FOODS diet.

It was a very simple diet - I ate greens, non-starchy veggies, meat and eggs. I didn't rotate a bunch of non-prescription anti-fungals. I used GSE and caprylic acid for awhile along with the nystatin. I religiously avoided wheat (really most grains) and dairy and for a few months, fruit.

I had my candida levels checked with the blood test from Antibody Assays labs, which my doc feels is the most convenient and accurate enough way to measure whether your levels are too high.

I also did the elimination diet to see if I had any allergies (only a couple), and followed Robert McFerran's suggestions about eating for my metabolic type. I'm a hunter gatherer.

I believe that the combination of all my efforts is what really paid off...the nystatin certainly helped, but the diet, exercise and SR were also keys. I don't know if it would have worked had I neglected to do a single "leg" of the wellness stool that is promoted here.

It's not easy, but you can do it. Hope this helps.

~~~8>

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by
Jeff K on June 26, 2002 at 22:06:30:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

The French have been fighting it with Saccharomciis Boulardi yeast , a Good !!! Yeast with great sucess and it stops diarhea in its tracks ! PD has it in it and gives you energy to . Modified perilla and mentha is also very good and fast acting but no starches or processed sugar .
Legumes string beans, workgreat .



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Terri-Lynn on June 26, 2002 at 23:25:23:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Jeff K on June 26, 2002 at 22:06:30:

Yes, i had candida for a long time many years ago and of course you can move thru it and things get alot better, but it takes months and sometimes longer to nip it in the bud, so to speak; We use this Saccharimcis Boulardi to fight the yeast and it is fantastic and works. Give yourself some time and drink more water to help your joints and look into taking some Mag.; Good luck! After one starts feel so good, i don't think they want to put back a lot of the sugars and heavy grains anyway; Think Positve and you'll notice the suttle things in your body shift; Attitude does play a role in the process; It does cost a bit to start and No your not on them forever, but for three months perhaps; The suppliment he has you on sound also excellent, but i add Saccharomcies to it is all.You might want to read a book on it and that will clear up a few things for you perhaps;



What is Saccharimcis Boulardi & where do you get it?

Posted by Straw on June 27, 2002 at 15:03:59:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Terri-Lynn on June 26, 2002 at 23:25:23:

Just wanted to know about this Saccharimcis Boulardi.

Thanks.

Straw



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Walt Stoll on June 27, 2002 at 16:05:45:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

LL.

I am not selling anything!!!!!!!

MY patients were through with there treatment within 3-6 months.

HOWEVER they had to do SR to do that. That takes self-responsibility.

Have you learned SR and practiced it consistantly?

If not, you better buy those supplements forever.

Walt



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Sonja on June 28, 2002 at 01:44:41:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

I can understand why you ask...it's a difficult task.

Of course it's possible, but it takes committment.

I have done it, and it has taken me a year to get rid of Candida, and another 2 years to find the balance again.

But there is one thing I'd like to mention: I think people may think that they still have Candida infection, because they interpret ALL discomfort symptoms as a sign of Candida. But not all the problems stem from it.

For instance, only after I found out how my metabolism functions, I felt better. I can highly reccommend metabolic diets (which I discovered on this very BB - check Robert McFerran in the Archives). It still took a long time to figure out how MY metabolism works, but once I did that, the real progress happened. I feel really good now. Healthy, energetic...every day.

So, beating Candida is just one part of the job, finding out how to live a healthy life - and doing it - is another, just as important. Difficult - sure. But it pays off in the end.




Conquered!

Posted by Helping You on June 28, 2002 at 11:31:10:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

Hi there,

First of all, candida is not the enemy perse. LGS is the ultimate enemy here and the demise of candida is based on erradicating the environment that allows candida to flourish. SR returns the intestinal tract to this proper environment. However, I find that by eating a whole-foods diet, taking a lactofermented foods supplement, and by adding real lactofermented foods to the diet, the results are even faster. Killing the bugs directly CAN and DOES work to an extent but even when the bugs are killed, the intestinal environment does NOT support the growth of friendly bacteria. This must still be changed. That is why people continually relapse! My feelings are, if you are doing what I mentioned above, the candida will simply die because the environment will become toxic for it to survive.

I had a 4+ candida level as shown on the Great Smokie's CDSA. My level returned to 0 after 6 months on that protocol. Recently, I had a woman with 2 species of candida. One at 4+, and one at 3+. AND, she had a 3+ species of klebsiella. After 3.5 months on a low-starch diet, SR 2x per day, and 18 caps of Primal Defense per day, she eliminated one species of candida and the klebsiella. Only a 1+ level remained on the tougher-to-treat candida species which was eventually eliminated by continuing the protocol for another 2 months. I hope this helps you make a decision on what to do!

-HY

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by lorena on June 28, 2002 at 12:46:30:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Walt Stoll on June 27, 2002 at 16:05:45:

I hope this doesn't sound silly, but I haven't really understood how to do SR. I'm the type of person that needs to be led through the steps. Could I get some specifics? Thanks



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Maria on June 28, 2002 at 12:49:40:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by lorena on June 28, 2002 at 12:46:30:

Check the glossary and read through the archives. Some great info. explains it there. Plus there is a book by Martha Davis, The Relaxation Workbook, I think thats the name of it, explains it in greater detail. You will also find the name of it in the glossary.

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Re: What is Saccharimcis Boulardi & where do you get it?

Posted by Terri-Lynn on June 28, 2002 at 18:12:55:

In Reply to: What is Saccharimcis Boulardi & where do you get it? posted by Straw on June 27, 2002 at 15:03:59:

Many holistic physicians carry it and also the Wellness Ranch in Texas i sometime work out of has it-call 1800-800-0432;

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by Elisa on June 29, 2002 at 15:16:18:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

It took me more than a year to "cure" my candida. The
first three months were about cravings for the foods I
used to eat, feeling no better and sometimes worse
than before, and realizing it was a long road ahead (it
took years on the road that got me there, so naturally
there was no quick way out).

In fact when I started to feel better it happened kind of
without my noticing. Then it occured to me one day that I
hadn't felt bloated or dizzy for a while, and I couldn't
remember the last time I had felt stuffy and allergy
riddled. The veil sort of lifted without my noticing.

Take heart. You can be cured. However, the first leg is
all about re-educating your body to a new way of eating
a living. It's not about curing yourself so you can go
back to a "normal life." The normal life is the one that
made you sick. Sure you can have a less restrictive diet
once the yeast is at bay, but don't ever think that sugar
and refined carbs will be part of your daily life again.
They will at best be a rare treat. You will get the candida
again if you slip back into the old ways.

Just think of it this way. If you don't treat the candida (as
much as it sucks to do so) will you not feel better than
you do now, in fact you will continually feel worse and in
more ways.

Give it at least three months to see if you feel better
ismy advice.



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 01, 2002 at 05:43:47:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Sonja on June 28, 2002 at 01:44:41:

Thanks, Sonja.

Excellent!

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? (TESTIMONIAL.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 01, 2002 at 17:03:17:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Elisa on June 29, 2002 at 15:16:18:

Thanks, Elisa.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by
Mandy on July 07, 2002 at 16:52:15:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

Have had real good luck eliminating candida by watching my blood sugar levels and severely restricting fruit. For instance, make sure if I am drinking fresh juices that I space them an hour inbetween meals, fruit alone (when fighting severe candida I only had one a day), and making sure high glycemic foods such as carrots, potatoes, etc. portions were measured so blood sugar levels remain normal. So, I would not overeat, eliminate caffeine, eat a vegan diet, lots of water and exercise. Make sure elimination is good, so your body has a chance to eliminate the candida timely. Hope this helps!

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Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It?

Posted by
Judy on July 07, 2002 at 21:57:23:

In Reply to: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by LL on June 26, 2002 at 18:50:35:

Yes, I have beaten the candidas/yeast after many years of chasing different remedies around and trying everything out there. I found out about JC tonic (www.jctonic.com) and that was all it took. I started on the tonic 4-1-02 and by 4-15-02 I hardly knew that I had had candidas. Today 7-7-02 I can say that I do not have any of the symptoms anymore. I still try to stay away from sweets, but that is it. I eat a well rounded diet and have no effects. I take the tonic every day and will continue. The fungus on my feet and nails has disappeared. No more itching at all. I am clear. So you see you can beat this old candida bug if you want to. I did and I am living proof. It even affected my joints and muscles in time and that has all gone away also. Thanks to the tonic. Judy



Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 08, 2002 at 12:03:05:

In Reply to: Re: Candidiasis - Has Anyone Actually Beat It? posted by Judy on July 07, 2002 at 21:57:23:

Thanks, Judy!

I would be very interested in hearing anyone else's experience with this tonic.

Walt

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