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What actually keeps candida in check?

Posted by Redstone on March 17, 2003 at 10:34:11:

Is it a combination of friendly bacteria and the immune system?
I've read that about 25% of healthy adults have little of no acidopilus in their guts. It seems thus that it's the immune cells that deep it in check.
Maybe allergy slows the immune response? Therefore NAET may be of great help?



Re: What actually keeps candida in check?

Posted by cris on March 17, 2003 at 16:25:22:

In Reply to: What actually keeps candida in check? posted by Redstone on March 17, 2003 at 10:34:11:

I think out-of-control Candida is a relatively new phenomenon resulting from 3 generations of people using antibiotics everytime they feel ill. Since we were children, we have been killing off/altering our normal body flora at regular intervals, allowing resistant residents to take over more territory. These residents don't give that territory back easily. Since our bodies didn't evolve to live in harmony with this altered flora, there are medical consequences for many people.
The answer, of course, is to never take antibiotics unless the situation is grave.
Of course, we will soon be in a situation where the only antibiotics which will work will be close to lethal. It is time to do as Pasteur suggested on his deathbed, and focus on the "terrain" rather trying to battle the microbes.

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Re: What actually keeps candida in check?

Posted by Helping You on March 17, 2003 at 22:44:12:

In Reply to: What actually keeps candida in check? posted by Redstone on March 17, 2003 at 10:34:11:

Cris makes a good point. Many of us were are also born probiotic-deficient due to bottle-feeding.

Aside from that, keeping LGS away keeps candida away. Candida likes an alkaline, low-oxygen environment. Friendly bacteria cannot survive in that type of condition. So, keeping the gut slightly acidified, avoiding refined foods, keeping bracing in check, and eating lactofermented foods helps to keep candida in check and keep digestion at peak efficiency

-HYH

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Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 18, 2003 at 07:49:38:

In Reply to: What actually keeps candida in check? posted by Redstone on March 17, 2003 at 10:34:11:

Hi, Redstone.

What is your definition of "healthy adults"? Perhaps you have heard the story of Thomas Merton (philosopher at the turn to the 20th century) who set out to find a truly healthy person. After 10 years of searching he had to admit that he could not find even one. Perhaps you mean the "average adults"?

The normal gut flora is a perfect preventive of candida.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Redstone on March 18, 2003 at 08:26:59:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 18, 2003 at 07:49:38:

How do I know when it's safe to recolonize the gut with friendly bacteria? I tried to do this when I thought it was safe and had a regrowth of fungus. Do you have to get rid of all fungus before recolonizing? How do yo know when it's gone? Redstone



Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by
kim on March 18, 2003 at 08:32:46:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 18, 2003 at 07:49:38:

Walt, I assume I have canadida by taking the questionaire and LGS by what you say. I have chronic hives and am doing evrything to get rid of this. I take multiple sups but I take laeral flora eveery morning that I was tolf would help fight canadida and put the good bacteria in my Diestive tract. What else should I be doing. I am now doing SR. Is there anythign that mI can take to help strengthen my leaky gut???



Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by
Redstone on March 18, 2003 at 09:36:00:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by kim on March 18, 2003 at 08:32:46:

Kim. you can oxegenate the system by doing deep breathing exercises Candida has a hard time in this environment.
technique; sit quiet. bcome aware of your breath. every 6'th breath, take a deep breath using the diaphram. mouth closed, breath through the nose. you can hear the breath in the nose. To take a "deep" breath, try to get the sound of air hitting the back of the throat. As you relax you'll begin to breath faster. Now you can take a deep breath every 9'th 10'th of more breaths.You may get a strong healing crisis. It helps me alot!

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Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 19, 2003 at 08:03:01:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by Redstone on March 18, 2003 at 08:26:59:

Hi, Redstone.

Recolonizing with healthy bacteria cannot cause a recurrasnce of C-RS, However, if the LGS has not been handled, the colon becomes a battleground between the bad bugs and the good ones. In that battle no outcome is guaranteed.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 19, 2003 at 08:07:51:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by kim on March 18, 2003 at 08:32:46:

Hi,Kim.

Listen to Redstone.

How long have you been doing the SR and have you certified it with biofeedback?

A simple walking program will also help speed up your results. See the exercise archives.

Let us know how you do.

Walt

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Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Redstone on March 20, 2003 at 08:05:40:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 19, 2003 at 08:03:01:

I don't know. I tried a little yogurt yesterday and even that fed the fungus.Got that cold feeling about an hour after I ate it.I remember reading in the archives that probiotics can feed candida if it out numbers the probiotics. Maybe I've got a super strain of fungus. Seems like something's going on that hasn't or can't be defined.



Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 21, 2003 at 07:40:39:

In Reply to: Re: What actually keeps candida in check? (Archive in candida.) posted by Redstone on March 20, 2003 at 08:05:40:

Hi, Redstone.

Sounds more like a hypersensitivity reaction to caseine to me.

Walt

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