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bad berries?? -- hives -- h. pylori

Posted by ph on July 11, 2003 at 15:57:18:

I had frozen blueberries and raspberries in my freezer for a long time (Trader Joe's). I gave a friend a cup of these frozen berries. They thawed out and were left in his refrigerator for 2 weeks. He then blended them into a lemonade he made one night and drank it. In the morning he had great difficulty in breathing and the same day broke out in hives. The difficulty in breathing and hives continued for 2-3 days. (He is not allergic to berries. If he eats fresh berries nothing will happen to him. He never had hives before in his life.)

A day or two later he went to the doctor cuz he was concerned about the hives (although, the hives had already cleared up on their own). The doctor did some blood tests. He just now found out the tests shows he has h. pylori and was told he's probably had it about 6 months. He has ZERO symptoms. No stomach problems whatsoever; no gas, no bloating, no pain, no constipation. Perfect from top to bottom.

I find the pylori hard to believe. This man has the cleanest diet you can imagine. He just LOVES produce and eats it constantly. Drinks teas made with fresh herbs, usually mint. Rarely touches meat. Eats chicken. 50-something, extremely fit. In the past he's been told that he's TOO ALKALINE. So, how can he have a bacterial infection in his stomach?

Could it all be connected back to the berries? Maybe the berries were bad, sitting thawed for 2 weeks? Could the h. pylori be elevated temporarily due to possible berry poisoning?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.




Re: bad berries?? -- hives -- h. pylori (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2003 at 07:45:51:

In Reply to: bad berries?? -- hives -- h. pylori posted by ph on July 11, 2003 at 15:57:18:

Hi, PH.

In my opinion, about the worst thing fermented berries could do is give him an alcoholic buzz.

LGS opens the lining of the gut to lots of kinds of environmental allergenic peptides and H. Pylori is one of the complications of LGS.

Since chronic stress-effect storage in the hypothalamus is the most commonn cause of LGS (not diet) perhaps this is what is going on.

See the glossary and the archives about these subjects and let us know what you learn.

Infortunately, the current treatment of H. Pylori is antibiotics which will likely make his LGS worse. If he has no stomach symptoms I would not treat a laboratory result--especially since the treatment could make him begin to have symptoms.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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