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Posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Let me start from the beginning. About 3 years ago, I started having pain in my lower back, and went to see a uroligist (I suspected a kidney infection). He prescribed antibiotics and and did a prostate exam and culture, (which came back neg). I still experienced the cronic back pain, as well as indigestion. Two months later, I woke up in the middle of the night with heart palapitations, and went to the emergency room. I was admitted and put on an IV.Because the palapitatins were so severe, they suspected drugs, such as cocaine, and gave me a drug test which of course was negative. After about an houron the IV fluids, my heart rate went back to normal. They then performed an X-ray of my lower abdomen and the doctor noted that my intestines were full of feces, at which point, I was given a prescription for the indigestion,and released. From that point on, my blood pressure was extremely high, along with chronic intestinal pain and indigestion.
A few days later, I saw my regular practioner, who examined me, and diagnosed me with chronic anxiety and high blood pressure. He prescribed
medication for the high blood pressure, and 1 mg of xanax three times a day. The xanax has helped with the chronic intestinal pain, and also the indigestion. I also had an endoscopy and colonoscopy to rule out any disease. (everything seemed to be normal) I also had a C-T scan, which was also normal.I was, however, diagnosed with IBS.
Over the last 2 years, my blood pressure has occasionally elavated, and then returned to normal.
I still had bouts of constipation, and chronic abdominal pain, but not constant...some bad days, some good.
I attempted to cut my dosage of xanax, ( due to fatigue) which I had successfully cut in half about 8 months ago, so I am now taking 1.5 mg per day. This has helped with the fatigue I was experiencing from the larger dosage... Two weeks ago, I tried to cut the dosage in half AGAIN, but experienced more chronic pain in my stomach and intestines,and indigestion that was not relieved by over the counter medication.
It was immediately relieved by taking the xanax. My doctor claims that I may have to continue the xanax for the rest of my life!!!
I have returned to the dosage of 1.5 mg per day, but still suffer the intestinal pain, but not as severe. The 3 mg dosage did not help more than the 1.5 mg, but only left me fatigued.
Why does the xanax help relieve the indigestion and intestinal and stomach pain???
I don't suspect that anxiety is a factor here, except for the heart palapitations (just that one time) and "not knowing" what is causing all this pain.
At present, I am still taking the blood pressure medicine, and BP is normal.No heart palapitations... and I'm also still taking the xanax, 1.5 mg per day. I have bouts of depression, constipation, and pain, but not as extreme as before. I am 35 years old, and no family history related to this condition . Please help me to resolve this problem or at least better understand. Most doctors want to give you a prescription and send you on your way.
Can you recommend an alternitive to the xanax,
( everytime I try to stop taking them, it's unbearable) and I worry about the addiction and side effects taking this long term.
I have also stopped drinking caffinated products, and now only drink water and about 2 beers a day, which seems to relieve the pain in my stomach and intestines, at least temporarily.
Is this maybe doing me more harm than good? I am desperate at times when the pain is really bothersome. Does this sound like IBS, or do you think it may be caused by something else?



Re: ibs

Posted by Jody on August 18, 1999 at 10:08:16:

In Reply to: ibs posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Have you been tested for Leaky Gut, Candida and Parasites. The Xanax only provides symptom relief and is a pretty hard core drug. You should alos investigate www.immed.com. IBS is a term the Medical establishment
uses when they can't figure anything else if wrong and
they suspect it is a functional/stress related problem.

Also go see a good nutritionist and or natural Doc and get
tests performed by Great Smokies Diagnostics lab. ASAP!
You've been going on too long. The beers is also providing
symtom relief.



Re: ibs

Posted by Jody on August 18, 1999 at 10:28:40:

In Reply to: ibs posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Also look at the book Cure for all disease by Hulda Clark



Re: ibs

Posted by makarlg@vetmed.auburn.edu on August 18, 1999 at 10:36:43:

In Reply to: ibs posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Greetings, you have found a fortunate source of assistance for yourself...at just the right time. Sounds like you're at that point with allopathic medicine where you'll be given some meds, told that nothing's wrong, and monitored patiently until some real money can be made off you...

I'm just a fellow reader here, but can direct you to the archives and health articles. At least read about skilled relaxation and leaky gut syndrome. In the archives look at anxiety, colon problems, skilled relaxation and magnesium (and everything else, because all of the things you're suffering are related)

The most pointed question you ask is "why does xanax help relieve the indigestion and intestinal and stomach pain?"

Most definitely it is because xanax is (superficially) mimicking what skilled relaxation can do. This is not about being a nervous or anxious person, it's about the toll that everyday life and modern environment and processed food take, and the lack of replenishment (nutritionally AND mentally, or spiritually, or whatever you want to call it).

You CAN get control over these things and you don't have to take xanax for the rest of your life.



Re: ibs

Posted by tony on August 18, 1999 at 17:23:56:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by makarlg@vetmed.auburn.edu on August 18, 1999 at 10:36:43:


Thanks for responding...Do you know the best place to look for info on skilled relaxation? I would like to get more specific details on how to get started...



Re: ibs

Posted by tony on August 18, 1999 at 17:27:53:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by Jody on August 18, 1999 at 10:08:16:


I appriciate your help. I have tried to get my doctor to test for parasites, but he refused...claiming that COULDN"T be the problem.
Guess it's time for a new doctor.



Re: ibs

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 18, 1999 at 17:56:26:

In Reply to: ibs posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Hi, Tony.

Welcome to the BB. I know you are new since the explanation for all of your conditions (and their interrelationiships) has been discussed on this BB for years.

ALL of your conditions are caused by the same thing and your docs have persisted in treating the tips of the iceberg. Of course, that is the way we allopaths have been taught and that is where all the money is. We continue to refuse to "see the forest for the trees".

All of the information you need is here but, there are so many notes for you to sort through, that I recommend you get a copy of my book and read it from cover to cover.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: ibs

Posted by tony on August 19, 1999 at 03:07:00:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by Walt Stoll on August 18, 1999 at 17:56:26:

Dr. Stoll, Sorry about duplicating already answered questions, but I too am having trouble with the info on this site. Sometimes the page won't scroll down, stating that the page is too big to be shown completely. And getting to the glossary/index is sometimes impossible. I guess web tv cannot get to places that computers can.
I do have another question, if a person had a parasite of some sort, how long could it go undetected? and if so, could the parasites multiply to the point where you can get REALLY sick, or would your body keep them from going that far?
Thank for your time, Tony



Re: ibs

Posted by Lois on August 19, 1999 at 08:16:14:

In Reply to: ibs posted by Tony on August 17, 1999 at 20:44:44:

Hi Tony.

What's your diet like? Isn't it strange that doctors don't consider what what you put through your digestive system as a cause for IBS? You'll find lots of info on diet on this site and also at www.dadamo.com. Many, many, MANY people, myself included, find that when they eliminate wheat (and often most other grains) and dairy, the nervousness, palpitations, anxiety (or whatever is particular to that individual) disappears along with the IBS (or acid reflux or whatever...).



Re: ibs

Posted by Lisa on August 19, 1999 at 12:30:00:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by tony on August 18, 1999 at 17:23:56:

That's a toughie...I'm still a beginner. If you can, look at "Skilled Relaxation" in the archives. The "best way" is different for everybody. Here's a quote from dr. Stoll's article:
The most effective self-help book to learn these techniques
isThe Relaxation and Stress Reduction Workbook,
Edited by Davis, Eschelman and McKay, published
continuously since 1980 by New Harbinger.
I don't have this book yet.
Good luck with all of this. I think one of the most helpful things to me has been just being able to share others experiences here, but the SR is a rather solitary thing. I am currently studying tai chi,, which really helps to "connect you" to your body. It can be a pleasant group experience too. My teacher says the translation for the name of people who do tai chi (from the Chinese) is PLAYERS...(like of a game)
take care and write again



Re: ibs

Posted by Lisa, again on August 19, 1999 at 13:13:27:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by tony on August 18, 1999 at 17:23:56:

I wanted to tell you, too, that a way to "jump start" the process of reaching relaxation is GET A MASSAGE. It really works, and you'll be able to tell how you're supposed to feel when you are genuinely relaxed. Depending on what state you're in now, you might have to get a few of them for a couple of weeks. (expensive, but worthwhile)



Re: ibs (BILL????) Archive under parasites.

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 21, 1999 at 11:55:51:

In Reply to: Re: ibs posted by tony on August 19, 1999 at 03:07:00:

Tony,

We are doing our best to do something about the terrific amount of information on the BB right now. Talk to Bill (my son, the administrator for this 'site) about the progress. You might use the date search to unclutter stuff a lot.

Basically, people get parasites because of what we have been discussing about LGS for years here on this 'site. That does not mean that once parasites break through this level that they cannot be controlled by other "lines of defence" we have.

SO, in this country, we have sufficient shelter and nutritional reserves to keep most parasites from becoming life threatening. In "developing" countries many people do not have even the bare subsistance needed for that much resistance and parasites can actually multiply until they kill the person.

Is this making sense? In other words, the more one can practice "wellness" the less they would have to worry about parasites being any more than a nuisance.

Walt



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