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Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll

Posted by Nancy on October 26, 1998 at 08:53:28:

Walt

I took Duricef for a week due to a throat infection and, of course, feel the CR-S symptoms of bloating, loose bowels, and spaciness. My ENT has prescribed 750,000 units of Nystatin 4 X day for a week and will refill as needed. The compounding pharmacy packs the Nystatin in capsules. My question is, should I open the capsules and mix the powder (which is mixed with acidophilus as a filler) with water before taking it? Ten years ago, I tried taking the Nystatin powder with water and not only did the bitter taste nearly prevent me from using it, but it also irritated my stomach, at times nauseating me. I took it for several weeks with no improvement in the candida symptoms, but I may not have been getting nearly enough of it to do the job. If it's ok to take it in the capsules, I'd much rather do that, but if you say that it won't be absorbed that way, I'll try to take it out of the capsules.

Thanks

Nancy


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Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by Martha on October 26, 1998 at 21:41:52:

In Reply to: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll posted by Nancy on October 26, 1998 at 08:53:28:

Grapefruit Seed Extract is being recommended for treatment of candida and protozoan infection among other things. According to an industry newsletter that came with the
Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Dr. Leo Galland typically prescribes 5-10 drops diluted in at least 4 oz. of liquid taken twice daily. Apparently no side effects and
99% success. Would you recommend trying it, along with the whole foods diet? Martha


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Re: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 1998 at 10:10:52:

In Reply to: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll posted by Nancy on October 26, 1998 at 08:53:28:

Dear Nancy,

Remember, Nystatin is not absorbed at all. It works on the surface of the gut, only, which is the main reason it is so safe to take.

The bad news is that the entire GI tract is involved and your mouth is part of that tract. You have heard of thrush in children haven't you? Well that is an overwhelming oral infection in an individual who has not yet had a lifetime of exposure to the organism like we adults have had.

SO, those with C-RS have the organism growing inside their mouths al the time. They are usually not symptomatic because of the antibody levels produced by many years of living with this organism inthe environment.

ANYHOW, that means that, if the Nystatin is not sloshed around in the mouth for a few minutes before swallowing it, the organisms in the mouth that are not exposed to the Nystatin just reinfect the gut immediately. Besides, the ones in the esophagus are not effected either.

This is one of the reasons that docs who don't know better (and order the Nystatin tablets) don't get as good results. Besides the tablets are sugar coated.

I know you hate the taste. However, I treated myself so I could know exactly what I was asking my patients to do. Once you know how important it is, you will rise to the occasion.

Is this making sense to you?

Walt



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Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 1998 at 11:56:36:

In Reply to: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Martha on October 26, 1998 at 21:41:52:

Hi, Martha.

Yes.

Let us know your experiences.

I have been sort of watching GSE for about 10 years. Finally there is enough proof for even me to recommend it whole-heartedly.

Walt



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Re: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll

Posted by Nancy on October 27, 1998 at 15:44:47:

In Reply to: Re: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 1998 at 10:10:52:

Walt

Yes, it makes sense, and I now recall your stating this before. One more question: Can it be mixed with unsweetened fruit juice? How much liquid should be mixed with it? I'm still not sure if you mean that it's ok to empty out the capsules into a spoon, then mix with liquid before swishing and swallowing. Each capsule has 750,000 units of Nystatin plus some acidophilus.

I'll wait till I hear from you to begin.

Thanks



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Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by Nancy on October 27, 1998 at 15:48:55:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 1998 at 11:56:36:

How about combining grapefruit seed extract with nystatin? Is there a trusted brand of grapefruit seed extract? I have some Agrisept L from Essentially Yours (makers of Calorad). It is 100% CITRUS extract and is touted as a Candida cure. Do you think that is the same thing?



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Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by martha on October 27, 1998 at 20:10:52:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Nancy on October 27, 1998 at 15:48:55:

Thanks Walt: the GSE Report Vol.1 Issue 1 that I read said
Citricidal brand was more effective than Citrex and DF-100
but they are talking about drops . I have a Natrol brand
which is 50 mg. capsules. How do capsules compare to the
drops? I haven't taken any yet. I think anyone can get report by writing to Praxus Inc. 448 Ignacio Blvd. Ste. 123, Novato, CA 94949 Martha


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Re: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 1998 at 16:42:40:

In Reply to: Re: Nystatin ? for Dr. Stoll posted by Nancy on October 27, 1998 at 15:44:47:

Hi, Nancy.

Many people just take the contents of the capsule & empty it into the mouth where it mixes with saliva enough to do the job. Personally, I would do that and take about a tablespoon of water to slosh it around.

I would not use fruit juice since it is REALLY just flavored sugar water. When you are trying to kill out candida even the whole fruit would be detrimental to your diet. Candida LOVES that stuff.

Walt




Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 1998 at 16:46:40:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Nancy on October 27, 1998 at 15:48:55:

Dear Nancy & Martha.

I have no clinical experience with GSE. I am speaking from the conclusions of all my reading on the subject. SO, I do not know which brand is the best or even what dose.

I would think that combining it with Nystatin couldn't hurt and might even have an additive effect.

I am interested in hearing about any experiences people have with GSE. I finally believe it might be even more effective than Nystatin; either one taken alone.

Walt




Check out 10-Undecenoic acid(SF 722) for Candidiasis

Posted by Sam on October 28, 1998 at 23:51:48:

In Reply to: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Martha on October 26, 1998 at 21:41:52:

Dear Everyone:
You can find more info on this product at www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html. I have been taking for 3 weeks and find it very effective as well. Good herx reactions. Actually nasty, but all for the good!
Sam



Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by Thomas Seay on October 29, 1998 at 00:02:27:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by martha on October 27, 1998 at 20:10:52:

The one that I am taking (and having success with) is
in capsule form. 200 mg Grapefruit Seed Extract, Concentrate of Artemesia Annua,
and Burberine Sulfate.. It's trademark name is Tricycline
and is put out by "Allergy Research Group". 2-6 capsules per day.

My Doctor is reporting that other patients also have had great success with this

Later down the course, he gives a product called "Permeability Factors" to seal up the "leaky gut".

-Thomas


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Permeability Factor

Posted by PeggyH on October 29, 1998 at 04:15:46:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Thomas Seay on October 29, 1998 at 00:02:27:


I took Permeability Factor for several months (which is expensive), along with many other things as I was following the 4-Rs. Yet, after many months, I still ended up with a flare of ulcerative colitis which would mean my gut certainly wasn't sealed up. So, I'm not so sure about the Perm. Factor which just gripes me considering the money spent on it.

Peggy






Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract

Posted by martha on November 01, 1998 at 21:49:59:

In Reply to: Re: Candida and Grapefruit Seed Extract posted by Thomas Seay on October 29, 1998 at 00:02:27:

There seem to be more than one kind of GSE. Finally found
a website www.nutriteam.com that has extensive info on
uses, dosage, research, price list. Small bottles of liquid
are very reasonable and can be ordered on line or a 800 no.
This site is about the product trademarked Citricidal.



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