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LGS vs stress theory

Posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 04, 2004 at 14:02:13:

Dr Stoll,

Over the last 4 years I have read many books about stress:

- Your book
- Selye
- Benson
- Pelletier

Despite these readings, I still remain with several unanswered questions:

- Who was the first person to elaborate the Stress-to-LGS link theory?

- What experiments have been done to confirm clearly that theory?

- When we talk about stored stress in the hypotalamus, what is actually stored? Is there any physical substance accumulated or physical change? In what form is the "stress" stored?

- Since exercise acts the same way as stress on that mechanism, why is exercise healthy and not causing LGS on the long run?

- With the manitol/Lactulose IP test, what numbers can we consider as normal?

- Is there other possible mechanism links between stress and LGS than just blood starvation?

I am planning to explain that theory to a friend with many health problems soon. I feel that I need to better understand before that event. That person is very knowleadable and a bit closed minded.

I had these questions in mind since a long time.

Thanks

Serge



Re: LGS vs stress theory (stress reliever)

Posted by Ron [2014.1617] on December 04, 2004 at 22:17:46:

In Reply to: LGS vs stress theory posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 04, 2004 at 14:02:13:

Hi Serge,

Here is a link which should relax the daily stressors..

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Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 05, 2004 at 06:56:16:

In Reply to: LGS vs stress theory posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 04, 2004 at 14:02:13:

Hi, Serge.

In order:

1. I do not recall. I know it was originally based on the research by the physiology department at the UK medical school (see the graph on page 69 of my book).
2. Same.
3. Readiness. If the body does not discharge this "readiness" at the time of the stress-effect (FOF) hormones are just suppressed (see Pelletier). Since discharging this readiness gets rid of the LGS, this is another example of "Occam's Razor". I am open to any more effective approach.
4. Exercise ohysically discharges the FOF readiness.
5. Each lab is different. Remember that these tests are still pretty primitive and must be taken as indications only.
6. Probably. See "The Second Brain" by Gershon. Your library can get you a copy. See if your friend is serious enough to read that one. It will help open his mind!

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Yildiz [3072.10] on December 05, 2004 at 14:18:32:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 05, 2004 at 06:56:16:

Dr. Stoll
thank you for your answer. I wondered if this FOF is CRF?
Also would you think emotional release techniques would decrease this stored FOF?Thanks



Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 06, 2004 at 07:00:55:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Yildiz [3072.10] on December 05, 2004 at 14:18:32:

Thanks, Yildiz.

FOF. Some people are helped by ERT but only if emotional stress storage is a major contributor to the stress load. For most of us, this is a very minor part of the total.

Walt



NMI-Thanks Dr. Stoll

Posted by Yildiz [3072.10] on December 06, 2004 at 16:11:08:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 06, 2004 at 07:00:55:

NMI

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Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 06, 2004 at 17:36:49:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Yildiz [3072.10] on December 05, 2004 at 14:18:32:

What is CRF?

Serge

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Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 06, 2004 at 18:06:56:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 05, 2004 at 06:56:16:

Thanks for your answer,

"hormones are just suppressed". Can you explain a little further? What hormones and why?

What is "Occam's Razor"?

"Exercise physically discharges the FOF readiness"

OK. If I understand well, exercise does not let any accumulated readiness left after the action. But does it evacuate previously acumulated readiness? (that's what most people think.)

Why does skill relaxation, just the contrary of action, is supposed to discharge the stress effect?
I understand that during the session normal body functions are restored, but why should the body learn to stay permanently on that condition?
How exactly does SR discharge the FOF?

I am not arguing here, just trying to better understand. I play the unbeliever side.

Thanks

Serge



Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 06, 2004 at 18:15:34:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 06, 2004 at 07:00:55:

I am begining to realise that, in my case, emotional issues seam to be a very big part of my stress storage.

It's actually rather hard to resolve.

On the top of it, emotional issues can apparently cause toxic metal intoxication (which is my case). The effect of these toxic metals is probably contributing a lot by itself to the general stress.

Serge

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Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 07, 2004 at 07:50:52:

In Reply to: Re: LGS vs stress theory (Archive.) posted by Serge C. [428.889] on December 06, 2004 at 18:06:56:

Serge,

The "readiness" is suppressed and stored. It is this chronic readiness that alters the brain's hormone producing function. Read Pelletier's book "MAH, MAS". The whole book is really about this.

Walt

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