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Posted by
Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

Does any child that has eczema also have leaky gut? Therefore the only cure is skilled relaxation? If that the case - how do some children just 'grow out of it?'. How on earth does anyone get an 8yr old boy to practice SR? I am not being negative here but does anyone have any experience of this? I would be most interested.
Thanks, Bubbles



Re: eczema/children

Posted by Penny [1429.2450] on February 04, 2007 at 18:23:59:

In Reply to: eczema/children posted by Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

My daughter had beautiful clear skin, til after her second round of immunizations. she then developed a sand paper rash on her upper arms, facial cheeks and thighs... she is now 8 yrs old and we battle the rash daily ... it is being called eczema, but i really believe it is some type of immune response to the immunizations. She is devastated by this especially in the summer.. the rash is so horrible that she now refuses to wear shorts or short sleeves, bathing suit is totally out of the question. we live in Florida near the coast, so this make it even more traumatic in as much as water activities is a daily part of our lives in this area.....

Can you tell if there might have been a connection to the onset of your childs symptoms and the immunizations?



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Posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [2062.3211] on February 04, 2007 at 20:04:58:

In Reply to: eczema/children posted by Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

Hi Bubbles,

Read "Meditation for Children" by Deborah Rozman.

Best wishes,
Jan



Attitude is everything

Posted by Michele [15.829] on February 04, 2007 at 21:19:40:

In Reply to: eczema/children posted by Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

Not to be rude, but your assumption that an eight year old boy would have a hard time with meditation or SR is really off mark.

I've taught yoga to youth for years, and include meditation - they respond BETTER ALWAYS than adults!

One thing to do.

Get him to just do a little physical activity - some jumping jacks, perhaps some little and big jumps - get the heart rate up - (or if you know yoga well, teach him a sun salute - kids love it!)
Then say, "OK, now it's time to wind down. Pretend all the jumping in your body is going to sleep - pretend each little cell is saying good night - but YOU are not going to go to sleep!

Then have him lay flat on his back - have a light low or have him put a towel rolled over his eyes. You do the same next to him so he doesn't feel "Watched" - say, "we are going to take a magical fun trip - while the cells in our body sleep and rest to make more jumps"

And then tell him a story about being in a bubble, going up in the sky and in his colorful bubble. Have him talk to you about what colors he sees.

Then tell him that outside of the bubble, far away, are all kinds of things - like people he loves, people he has challenges with and situations that are both positive and negative.
Ask him to talk about what he "sees" as his positive and negative - don't prod too much.
Also tell him that he can have a little quiet time, and that anything he may not want to talk about he can think about or, just relax and think about the colors of the bubble, swirling around him.

Then, he is going to slowly inhale and exhale, as he exhales slowly the bubble goes higher and higher.
Ask him to tell you what colors he sees.

Then, ask him to put his hands on his heart and be aware of his heart beat. Tell him that he is going to breath easier to let the bubble slowly drift down... when it is almost down, tell him, like right at the tops of the trees he should clench his fists and inhale big and take in all the bad stuff he feels - and then he is going to blow out hard and open his fists and let all that stress go far away - and when he does, the bubble breaks, he falls onto a puffy cloud that catches him and he should really start to stretch as he had a big journey. At this point, he should stretch a lot while lying on his back and then he can get up and do whatever he wants.

As he gets used to the "bubble game" he will probably ASK for it!

It's the first form of teaching meditation and quieting the mind for kids that I developed in classes and it works great!

The next step is that they go on their own journey without you saying much - and after that, they learn to just focus on a chant or mindfulness. Usually the latter in our society doesn't happen until the teen years.



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Posted by
bubbles [8281.2313] on February 05, 2007 at 00:20:25:

In Reply to: eczema/children posted by Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

that is all great advice and I do not take you for being rude Michele. Infact I had never thought of it like that as yes children are more open to learning anything than adults. I guess I am thinking of the other adult in my house (partner) who like most of the world just can't/won't get his head around any of this stuff and for the most part has no idea why I do SR and no interest in knowing. Because he has good health he does not think about it and thinks if you get sick you go to the doctor and do whatever they say because they are the professional and how on earth would I know better than them! I just really try not to talk about it because he looks at me like I have got 2 heads and then I get really angry and so on. Just not worth the hassle. I have learnt to accept there are just some things we will never agree on and he has his opinion and I have mine. we just about divorced over vaccination arguments so now I just don't go there.
Thanks, Bubbles



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Posted by Aston [31.3260] on February 05, 2007 at 07:29:55:

In Reply to: Re: eczema/children posted by Penny [1429.2450] on February 04, 2007 at 18:23:59:

Hi Penny,

My son was the same! I'm sure this started a dairy allergy. His eczema was so bad he looked like a burns victim. A year of seeing 'experts' nothing changed, stopping dairy & rubbing EPO on his stomach & he was all clear & at 9 still is.



Re: eczema/children

Posted by Aston [31.3260] on February 05, 2007 at 07:30:55:

In Reply to: eczema/children posted by Bubbles [7476.4] on February 04, 2007 at 15:39:34:

The only cure is SR? Crikey no! Does he have dairy? Take EFA's?

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Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on February 05, 2007 at 07:42:15:

In Reply to: Re: eczema/children posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [2062.3211] on February 04, 2007 at 20:04:58:

Thanks, Jan.

I think the title is actually "Meditation With Children".

Walt

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Re: Attitude is everything Children SR. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on February 05, 2007 at 07:59:38:

In Reply to: Attitude is everything posted by Michele [15.829] on February 04, 2007 at 21:19:40:

Thanks, Michele.

It needed to be said.

Walt

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Re: Attitude is everything

Posted by Jan DeCourtney, CMT (Happygal) [2062.3211] on February 05, 2007 at 10:01:17:

In Reply to: Attitude is everything posted by Michele [15.829] on February 04, 2007 at 21:19:40:

Wow, Michele.

That is great!

Best wishes,
Jan

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great post! .... nmi

Posted by snooze [841.2522] on February 05, 2007 at 12:31:23:

In Reply to: Attitude is everything posted by Michele [15.829] on February 04, 2007 at 21:19:40:


nmi

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Posted by Michele [15.829] on February 05, 2007 at 13:34:24:

In Reply to: Attitude is everything posted by Michele [15.829] on February 04, 2007 at 21:19:40:

My daughter is 15, and helps teach the youth yoga... she is not uber flexible and yet, does very well.
She does a little workshop with the class of kids - she does say, "Trikonasana" which is triangle posture. She talks about how the posture is a three point posture and how that can relate to their life. She teaches the children everything from chanting to games with the posture.
No one has to DO the posture textbook, just as long as they are trying in the process and also, that they are not in danger of hurting themselves.

Now realize, my daughter started doing this at 12....(teaching with me) and now at 15, she teaches and handles WELL, kids with emotional and physical issues including autism and ADD/ADHD... and the class is a mixed age class from 4 to 12 years old! They all get along well and it's a great class...
and the favorite part of class?

Allie's SAVASANA! (the relaxation) ... she has all types of stories and she relates the story to the pose.

FYI> I'm proud of her - she's a great kid :)

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Posted by Michele [15.829] on February 05, 2007 at 15:26:31:

In Reply to: Re: eczema/children posted by bubbles [8281.2313] on February 05, 2007 at 00:20:25:

Oh yes, isn't it great when spouses don't agree on child rearing? We are going through that a bit now but I've bent to just be ok with it (a religious thing) as it isn't a big deal and it's not negative per se just not my personal belief...

But it was stressful!

Your son will be more open however, others in your family may mock him or say it is "silly" if they don't feel comfortable with it.
Make it a game if anything - to keep everyone happy! haha

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Re: eczema/children/michele

Posted by JC [784.3265] on February 06, 2007 at 18:25:13:

In Reply to: Re: eczema/children posted by Aston [31.3260] on February 05, 2007 at 07:29:55:

my year old grandaughter has the same rash, plus a vag yeast rash; she's had 4 bouts of ABX and a recent flu shot. I worry about her developing LGS, and her Mom just started her on milk. I also hope she doesn't end up with more allergies (already peanuts and eggs)due to vaccinations and yeast problems.
Her Mom just doesn't get the importance of diet...
Michele >I'm looking forward to trying your relaxation "trip" with her 7 yr old brother, and someday with her when she's old enough to understand... Thanks!

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