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Posted by Adriane on October 17, 2000 at 16:12:52:

Walt/Bob:

Several weeks ago after reading on article on Leaky Gut Syndrome I found this site. After reading many of the archives on LGS and Candida I felt very certain this is what I've been dealing with for some time.
About two years ago I developed a bad reflux problem and went ot my doctor. He ran an upper GI-I did have a mild reflux. Instead of going on prevacid I opted to change my diet. This worked for a couple of months then came back. I went to a another doc for financial reasons and he put me on Prevpac suspecting H.phlori. I became very sick from the medicine. I had terrible buring in my abdomin and was unable to finish meds. The med had a snowball effect - I had repeated infections (bacterial NOT yeast) that required strong doses of antibiotics. The reflux came back several months later and I started losing weight no matter how much I ate. I went back to my origial doctor and he found gall stones. I had my gallbladder removed and started to feel much better until shortly after I got another bactierial infection. I was put on Doxycycline. I was very sick for two months unable to eat anything without terrrible stomach pain. My doctor put me on prevacid but his didn't help. I went to a gastroenterologist and he said to come off the meds and see how I feel. He also said it was probably dyspepsia due to the antibiotics and said it could take months for the "good bacteria" to get back to normal. I started to feel better then a few months later I took a sudafed and haven't been the same since. I'v been taking acidophilos for a year at least twice a day.
Just recently I had a raging yeast infection out of the blue. (I haven't had one in twenty years nor have I ever gotten one from any antibiotic)
It took a three day cream and two diflucan pills to get in under control and I'm still haveing very mild syptoms. I went back to my gastroenterologist - he is going to run some tests. Blood work: folate, tsh, vitamin b-12, anti gliadin a, anti ondomyosial ab, vitmian A and sed rate.
And a D-xylose absorbion test.
I started the elimination diet, have Beth Loiselles book, have SR book and have started. I now have a few questions for you. Sorry this is so long - didn't know any other way to write it.

Bob: I'm into the 2nd day of the diet and feel fine but a little weak. I will probably need lamb. I'm going to sart out with Beth's approach but am interested in the hunter-gatherer diet. Feel sure this is me. My husband joked with me that if I given my gallbladder what it wanted instead of all that veggie stuff I might have been fine!
Since I have had my gallbladder should I stick with lean meats and be a little caustious of the fat intake? I was told that my liver would pick up some of the slack but not all of it. By the way I've only on my 2nd day of elim diet and I can breath again!!

Walt: My Doctor that is running the tests did not know of any other tests for LGS but he did know of the Great Smokies lab in NC. Can you give me some feed back on his tests and if you feel there needs to be more? If so my doc is open to them but he is not familiar with them. Should he ask for them or should I go to someone who knows the tests?

Also: He wrote a prescription for Nystatin per my request but what I got was liquid - 1 tsp 4x day for 1 mo. Is this a good dosage? I have not taken yet. Since my symptoms are so mild is it possible for the diet and SR to work on the Candida?

Also: In Beths book, Maltodextrin is out because it is a refined complex carb. This ingredient is in my multidophilos pwd. Is this an exception or should I try a different kind and do you have suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your help. I feel with all the info on this BB I'm on the right track!

Adriane



Re: LGS

Posted by
Vince F on October 17, 2000 at 21:47:22:

In Reply to: LGS posted by Adriane on October 17, 2000 at 16:12:52:

I don't know if I had LGS or what I had after an injury from
chemicals but I had a reaction to acidy foods and problems
with almost everything I ate. Later I found out that my
system went acid. What i did was Only eat what didn't bother
me and that was rice with a Little chicken or ham and if i
craved something with acid which I found was anything I ate
with tomatoes or vinegar I mixed in bicarbonate. It foamed
up and made them taste a little pasty But they Didn't bother
me and eventually i was able to eat them with no problems or
very little. I was able to eat and sustain myself and not
feel ill. I used to get headaches that lasted for days that
I think were from foods I ate that didn't agree and found
that Oatmeal got rid of the headaches in minutes as if I had
taken aspirins which didn't do a thing for them.

It probably takes trying things that work for each of us
to solve or avoid what ails us but at least in my case I
could sense what bothered me and avoid it and I was dealing
with this with brain damage affecting my memory and needed
to sleep every few hrs when any physical activity even
taking a shower made me need to sleep and also after eating
by myself and taking care of 2 hounds.

If somthing works i would do it and if something doesn't
I would avoid it and trying different things just not to
suffer is what I like to do. I don't believe in suffering
especially when one is suffering severly already.

VF



Re: LGS - Bob McFerran

Posted by
trish on October 17, 2000 at 22:12:47:

In Reply to: LGS posted by Adriane on October 17, 2000 at 16:12:52:

Hi Adriane,

Bob has taken a break from the board to attend to some personal matters and work on his book. You can email him at rpmcf@hotmail.com with your questions. I would encourage you to do that if you are already into the 2nd day of the e diet.

I was confused by your statement that you feel like you need lamb, but yet you want to start with Beth's heavily vegetarian approach. What have you been eating so far? What seems to keep you going?

Congratulations on being able to breathe easier! You will probably find the culprit when you start testing after the elimination phase.

good luck,
trish



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 18, 2000 at 08:45:06:

In Reply to: LGS posted by Adriane on October 17, 2000 at 16:12:52:

Hi, Adraine.

The tests you need from GSL are a "Comprehensive Stool Analysis" AND at least 4-5 "Purged Stool Analyses". Your gastroenterologist is to be commended for knowing enough to even know of GSL. NOW, your problem will be helping him know what to DO about the results.

The main function of the gallbladder is to store up bile and give it to you in a big shot when you eat a lot of fat at the same time. The liver just makes bile at about the same rate all the time and has no longer the structure to give you the big shot. SO, you need to limit the amount of fat you eat at any one time.

Liquid Nystatin is laced with sugar. It will not work! The only thing that works if the pure powder. Even the tablets are covered with sugar and do not begin to work until they bypass the upper tract where the candida lives without treatment.

Docs who prescribe anything BUT the powder are missing the boat. Besides: there IS a topical powder that is mostly talcum and that is NOT the powder we are talking about. 750,000 units per dose is the right dose.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by Adriane on October 18, 2000 at 11:48:34:

In Reply to: Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 18, 2000 at 08:45:06:

Yes, this helps alot.
Just one more question on the maltodextrin in my acidophilus
Is this a problem on the whole foods diet and if so do you have recommendations?

Adrine



Re: LGS - Bob McFerran

Posted by Adriane on October 18, 2000 at 12:00:44:

In Reply to: Re: LGS - Bob McFerran posted by trish on October 17, 2000 at 22:12:47:

Hi Trish,

I will email Bob. Feel pretty lousy now that I'm into the 3rd day.
Before the elimination diet I was eating mostly chicken and turkey and occasionally fish. I cut out all red meats because of a gallbladder problem ( I would break out in hives if I ate anything other than the above meats). I would like to try and work red meats back into my diet. On the elimination diet I'm eating fish (healthy portions) but I'm still very hungry. I was hoping the lamb might help.

I decided to try Beths approach first just to start somewhere and then eventually work into the Hunter-Gatherer diet. Walt mentioned watching the fat intake because of the missing gallbladder. When I email Bob I'll discuss wheather or not I should even try the Hunter-Gatherer.

Adriane



Re: LGS

Posted by Adriane on October 18, 2000 at 12:06:43:

In Reply to: Re: LGS posted by Vince F on October 17, 2000 at 21:47:22:

It's great you were able to read your body and find out what was foods were bothering you. I haven't been that lucky. Every meal is a problem. I feel the elimination diet will work to find my food allergies then I can avoid them. It will take a little longer but it should work.

You're right, everyone has to find what works best for them.

Adriane



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 19, 2000 at 09:13:54:

In Reply to: Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.) posted by Adriane on October 18, 2000 at 11:48:34:

Hi, Adriane.

Maltodextrin is a "no-no".

Sorry.

The best reference I know about this is Beth Loiselle, RD's book "The Healing Power of Whole Foods". See the glossary.

Walt



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by Adriane on October 19, 2000 at 11:32:59:

In Reply to: Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 19, 2000 at 09:13:54:

Hi Again

The only problem with this (No Maltodextrin) is that I need some time of probiotic in my diet(dealing with Candida and suseptible to bladder infections) but the ones I've looked at have either sugar or refined complex carbohydrate.

Can you put me in the right direction to find one that doesn't have these additives or am I just plain out of luck?

Thanks, Adriane



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by kmd on October 19, 2000 at 15:58:27:

In Reply to: Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.) posted by Adriane on October 19, 2000 at 11:32:59:

Adriane,

I just posted to Frank in another thread about acidophilus, maybe you can find it. Walt was recommending Metagenics and Klair brands. You can also find some good info about this in the Supplements Archives on this site.

Hope this helps



Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.)

Posted by Adriane on October 19, 2000 at 17:01:51:

In Reply to: Re: LGS (Archive in Candida.) posted by kmd on October 19, 2000 at 15:58:27:

KMD,

Thank you, I'll take a look.

Adriane



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