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Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first?

Posted by
Barb on March 10, 2001 at 23:48:50:

I think I am dealing with all 3 things. I have checked the archives, (waiting for Dr. Stolls book). What do I begin with first? Do I start with diet and cleansing fasts for Candida first? Then Should I do an herbal fast for the parasites, then go for the LGS? It can be very overwhelming to begin with.



Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first?

Posted by Rich 1 on March 11, 2001 at 14:29:06:

In Reply to: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Barb on March 10, 2001 at 23:48:50:

I understand your difficulty. You must eliminate Candida and treat LGS together although the majority of the LGS will be healed once candida is under control.

This is what I would do in your place (and I was at one point):

1) Kill candida with herbal antifungals
2) Start a strict candida diet that eliminates all refined carbs, gluten-grains, dairy, fermented foods and fruits (except berries, granny smith apple, and melon---you can have 1 serving of fruit a day) Stay on this strict diet for 3-6 months.
3) Increase fiber with diet and supplement to eliminate dead candida and toxins from intestinal tract
4) All along, practice SR to start the healing of the LGS directly
5) Once the candida is down to a minimum, start ingesting certain probiotics orally and implanting them directly into the colon. Eat foods that encourage the growth of lactobacillius (whole whey, kefir, yogurt, legumes, FOS.....but only during this phase of the treatment. Not for the first 3-6 months)
6) Once the colon flora is begining re-establisment, you can take certain nutrients to repair the mucosa lining of the GI tract.....L-glutamine, butyrate, DGL, NAC glucosamine, Gamma Oryzanol
7) Then, when this complete, you will know because your symptoms should be greatly improved or gone.

There are also a few other considerations. Start improving digestion immediately with plant enzymes and HCL with protein. Protein causes the allergic response in LGS and needs to be broken down properly.

Food combining can be a great help. Eat protein with vegetables, eat starch with vegetbales but don't eat starch with protein. Take HCL with your protein meal. If you get heartburn, this is a good sign and means you have plenty of stomach acid (low stomach acid and pancreatic enzymes leads to candida overgrowth and parasite infection)

Food allergies, created by the leaky gut can also cause problems. For some, it is not needed to identify and eliminate. Just erradicating candida can often bring relief to food ensitivities but for those who have bad reactions, it is necessary to remove the allergens while you treat your problem. LGS causes food sensitivities and those same sensitivities in turn cause or worsen the LGS. It is a vicious cycle that can be haulted by identifying and eliminating those foods. When your gut is healed, you can begin to re-introduce one food at a time for reactions. You should have very little at that point.

LGS is basically an absorption problem. Therefore, you must do everything you can to improve your digestion:

1) plant enzymes or pancreatic enzymes
2) HCL with protein
3) Food combining
4) Chew more and relax while eating


Once this condition is under control, you may then complete a detox program that detox's the liver, kidney's, spleen, lungs, lymph, blood and all the organs. You will then be functioning at a very high level.

Here is the disclaimer that some people want on my posts now because I reply so often:

""DISCLAIMER""

"I am not a doctor. I am a person who has suffered through these problems personally and am offering non-medical information and advice only. I offer no claim of cure, diagnosis, or treatment."

I am putting that there because some people have a problem with those of use who like to help others. Take care and if you have more questions, feel free.

Rich



Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first?

Posted by
Barb on March 11, 2001 at 20:02:34:

In Reply to: Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Rich 1 on March 11, 2001 at 14:29:06:

Thanks Rich for sharing that information. It is extremely helpful!!!! :o) Now I have a starting place.
Barb



Rich- regarding Candida and LGS

Posted by Barb on March 12, 2001 at 00:07:43:

In Reply to: Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Rich 1 on March 11, 2001 at 14:29:06:

Can nausea after eating be a result of candida and LGS?
Would enzymes help with that?
Thanks for your help
Barb

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Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first?

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 12, 2001 at 09:54:37:

In Reply to: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Barb on March 10, 2001 at 23:48:50:

Hi, Barb.

I would start with SR while learning everything else and deciding what to add next.

Walt

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Your question..........

Posted by Rich 1 on March 12, 2001 at 11:34:28:

In Reply to: Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Barb on March 11, 2001 at 20:02:34:

Nausea after eating? hmm,....to be honest, I am not really sure. This is definitely a candida symptom but it is also a common symptom in a lot of problems. Try the enzymes, SR, and the diet including food combining if you can and see how you do. It will take a while to impliment all these changes. Here are some books for your to read that cover a lot of these concepts:

"The Body Ecology Diet" = Donna Gates

Actually, start with this one, it covers most of the topics we talked about. The only thing this book does not cover is antifungals. You may want to check out these 2 books:

"Yeast Control in 7 days" = ? (type in title at B&N.com)
"Candida Albicans: The Quiet Epidemic = Stanley Weinberger

These 2 books actually have an anti-fungal program to follow. I have read them both. I think stanley's book is better though. There is another program but it is very expensive and is called "The Candida Yeast Answer" by Gary Carlsen. His program can be purchased on his website. I don't remember where it is but if you do a search for his name or the title, it should come up.

These are all effective programs that are very similar to the one I did. It revolves around rotating antifungal herbs so that the yeast does not adapt to it, increasing fiber in supplement and diet, eating properly, and increasing oxygen. I know this approach works.

If you jump on this and actually do it, come back when most of your candida symptoms are gone and I will show you how to re-establish your flora. If you dont't do that, you can relapse within a few months of ending the program.

Take care!

Rich



Rich- Re: Question.....................

Posted by Barb on March 12, 2001 at 17:20:09:

In Reply to: Your question.......... posted by Rich 1 on March 12, 2001 at 11:34:28:

Ok, I'm on it. I do have the book, "The Yeast Connection"
by William Crook. I started with the diet today. I will get some of the anti-fungal herbs too. Since I dont have
Dr. Stolls book yet, is there something on the net regarding the SR?
thanks Barb



Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first?

Posted by Kimberly on March 12, 2001 at 17:40:33:

In Reply to: Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Rich 1 on March 11, 2001 at 14:29:06:

Rich,
Which herbal antifungal works best for killing yeast? Also, what do you think about SF722 and Caprylic Acid?
Thanks for all of the great info!
Kimberly



For Kimberly

Posted by Rich 1 on March 12, 2001 at 23:22:04:

In Reply to: Re: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Kimberly on March 12, 2001 at 17:40:33:

SF722 and Caprylic acid are great. I took them myself. Candibactin AR and Candibactin BR from Metagenics are good. They are berberine and volitle oils. Kolorex is an herbal antifungal that is very strong against yeast. PRIMAL DEFENSE is 14 strains soil-based organisms that implant in the colon REGARDLESS of how much candida is there.

Rich



(archive in SR, chronic bracing)........take care :).....nmi

Posted by Rich 1 on March 12, 2001 at 23:23:06:

In Reply to: Rich- Re: Question..................... posted by Barb on March 12, 2001 at 17:20:09:

nmi

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Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense

Posted by Barb on March 12, 2001 at 23:35:16:

In Reply to: For Kimberly posted by Rich 1 on March 12, 2001 at 23:22:04:

Rich, you mentioned Primal Defense in previous posts. What is it? Is it something to take after you get rid of the candida?



Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense

Posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 15:44:43:

In Reply to: Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense posted by Barb on March 12, 2001 at 23:35:16:

Primal Defense is one of those probiotics that is the exception to the rule. Most all probiotics will not implant in an environmnet condusive to candida. Primal defense is like that plant that survives the atom bomb!! It is made up of highly aggressive soil organsisms that survive stomach acid, bile, extreme ph's, chlorine, flourine, heat and cold. How many acidophilus products have you seen that can do that? :)

You can start to take this product immediately. It helps to eliminate candida and it changes your intestinal tract to a slightly acidic pH and then candida can't live there anymore.

It is found at www.crohns.net

Rich



Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense

Posted by Barb on March 13, 2001 at 17:40:44:

In Reply to: Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 15:44:43:

Rich, Primal Defense is a form of acidophilus? Like FOS?
I was planning on taking Fiberblend and enzymes and
and an candida cleanse with the diet I'm on. So Priaml
Defense would be good in there too? :O)
Barb



Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense

Posted by Rich 1 on March 13, 2001 at 22:08:57:

In Reply to: Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense posted by Barb on March 13, 2001 at 17:40:44:

It would! Primal defense is not just acidophilus. Think of it in these terms. Acidophilus is to vitamin C as Primal Defense is to the whole orange. Primal defense is the whole-food version of probiotics. It is the way they are found in nature (minus the pathogenic bacteria). They can help eliminate yeast and re-establish proper colon pH.

Rich

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to Rich -Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense

Posted by Barb on March 13, 2001 at 23:06:17:

In Reply to: Re: For Kimberly-Primal Defense posted by Barb on March 13, 2001 at 17:40:44:

Thanks for all the help and info. The hardest time I am having on the diet is limiting my fruit. I have such strong sugar cravings and thats how I have taken care of those cravings. I hope that after my body is cleansed of the sugar my sugar cravings will go away. Can I eventually
add more fruit back to my diet?
Thanks
Barb :o)

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Re: ginger juice treatment

Posted by Aussie Observer on March 14, 2001 at 02:16:29:

In Reply to: Candida, parasites and LGS, where do you start first? posted by Barb on March 10, 2001 at 23:48:50:

To Dr. Stoll,

I am following the ginger juice treatment as suggested. Have been on it for just over a week and wondered if by increasing the dose I may help things along. I have been taking one teaspoon a.m. one hour before eating. Would one teaspoon one hour after eating as well help?? I realise that most people don't get relief before three weeks but now that I can get one teaspoon down hoped two might be better!!



Re: ginger juice treatment

Posted by
Dan on March 14, 2001 at 18:56:45:

In Reply to: Re: ginger juice treatment posted by Aussie Observer on March 14, 2001 at 02:16:29:

I tried the one-teaspoon-per-day for a month and thought I have found another failure. The ONLY thing that helped the GERD burning was Coors Light Beer . (( No. This is NOT a commercial .... I think it may be because the other beers are homogenized and the heat must be killing SOMETHING that still remains in Coors.... OTHER beers only caused more FIRE... The Coors Light help put it out )) BUT... I was becoming a slow-motion alcoholic to the tune of 16 to 18 cans of Coors per day. Finally ( despondent and thinking I had nothing to lose ) I tried taking a TABLEspoon of the Ginger Root Juice every time I needed it. There for a few days, I was taking about 16 tablespoons per day. Now, things have improved and I am taking about 8 tablespoons per day. I still have to supplement the treatment with Coors Light... but only about 6 cans in the evening instead of all day every day. . .
USE the Ginger Root Juice when you need it..... as things improve ( and they will ) you will be able to start cutting back on it. . . . my OWN improvement has been VERY slow... but then again... I have had no relief from ANY medications for 16 MONTHS.... I just became immune to the effects of all of the medications and they did NOTHING to help. . . . I hope to be able to cut out the Coors soon and cut back on the GRJuice a bit more. . . .

Bottom line... Do NOT give up on the GRJuice.... just take more of it and more often if needed. . . The one-teaspoon per day thing may be great for some... but you MAY need more and more often to start seeing results. . . . IT HAS SURE CHANGED MY LIFE back toward normal !!!! . . . I just take a little jar of the GRJuice with me when I need to leave the house.

Inconvenient ? Yes. .. But it sure beats despondency and occassional thoughts of suicide when there is *NO* hope for relief from the constant fire.

The Ginger Root Juice burns too.... but only for about 2 minutes.... then, when the burning goes away... it takes the REST of the burning away with it . In my case, up to about an hour or more now.

Don't know WHY it works... but it does. I'm using about 4 Lbs. of Ginger Root per 10 Days. Cost = about $1.60 per day..... HALF the price of the H2 Blockers, Proton Pump Inhibitors, etc... that do NOT help me at all.

DO NOT GIVE UP !!! JUST TAKE MORE G R JUICE WHEN YOU NEED IT.

I WOULD suggest you cut out oils and fats from your diet and if you suffer from very loose to very hard stools, add LOTS OF FRESH (uncooked) VEGETABLES TO YOUR DIET. (( everyone tells you to do so anyway for scores of reasons.... JUST DO IT ...even if you don't like it.... you don't like a sore rectum either ))

(( PS: make sure you put the tablespoon way back near the back of your throat.... otherwise, the GRJuice WILL burn your lips and tongue ... also, if you can NOT get the Coors Light Beer where you live, do NOT try the others... they will simply start a fire in your stomach and throat again))

(( PPS: Coors NON-Alcoholic beer does NOT work .... Don't know why. Made differently. I guess. ))



Re: ginger juice treatment

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 16, 2001 at 07:38:34:

In Reply to: Re: ginger juice treatment posted by Aussie Observer on March 14, 2001 at 02:16:29:

Hi, Aussie.

I have had no experience with taking more but I know that it can do no harm.

Let us know how you do.

I don't know what to think about "Dan" (grin).

Walt

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Re: ginger juice treatment

Posted by aussie observer on March 18, 2001 at 20:54:33:

In Reply to: Re: ginger juice treatment posted by Dan on March 14, 2001 at 18:56:45:

to Dr. Stoll and Dan

Thank you both for your replies. I have decided to increase the GR intake to 1 tablespoon and see what happens.Two weeks have elapsed and no improvement but will give it another two.

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