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Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 12:43:36:

As usually I am overwhelmed with info . I have tried a few different brands of digestive enzymes blends and they don't really seem that effective...at least the ones I've tried. Recently I've been taking Pancreatin. I'm not sure if its are helping or if its because I've been trying to eat smaller portions and more careful about what I eat. I'm just wondering if theres some well known digestive enzymes that are recommended on this board?? I have indigestion and bloating, without acid reflux. I have no pattern regarding certain foods triggering this or not. All I've noticed is sometimes I have problems if eating many food combinations together (ie: Thanksgiving dinner) or eating sweets after a meal. At times I can eat junk food and nothing happens or I can eat what one would consider healthy and I bloat??? My portions sizes are on the small side to average. I don't drink coffee, pop or alcohol. Any advise welcome! And thanks for your help! (o:



Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 14:23:59:

In Reply to: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 12:43:36:

Hi QT,

Well, I've got IBS/LGS. So far I've only tried 3 digestive enzymes - two actually seemed to sometimes cause problems; right now I'm using one by HealthForce (see link below) that appears to be helping. I take one capsule with each snack, perhaps 2-3 with meals.

I'm also taking Swedish bitters before meals, and some ground flaxseed with one or two meals a day. I'm definitely doing better than with the Metamucil and Tagamet recommended by my HMO. I only took a couple Tagamet - I hate taking prescription drugs. Good thing, because I later found out from my CDSA test that my stomach acid is actually low.

Good luck!

Michelle



Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 14:28:58:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 14:23:59:

The link on my previous message didn't work - perhaps because the filename had a space in it?

Visit
http://www.healthforce.net/

and click on the link for
Digestion Enhancement Enzymes

-Michelle

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Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Barbara on May 07, 2001 at 17:43:24:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 14:23:59:

What kind of reaction did you get from the bitters? I took some artichoke bitters tonight for the first time and had some side effects.



Some help for you

Posted by enzyme therapy on May 07, 2001 at 17:57:01:

In Reply to: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 12:43:36:

This can be a difficult thing to get right. Chances are, you are taking enzymes that are not indicated for your particular problem. The best way to decide what enzymes to use is to take a 24 hour urinalysis. It is very inexpensive but it is an invaluable tool in diagnosing enzyme deficiency. If your Indican levels and Uric Acid are high, this indicates the need for high doses of protease enzymes, if your calcium oxilate is elevated, this means you are not absorbing fats well (or you are lacking dietary fats) and this would indicate the need for lipase.

If you are guessing at what enzymes you need (which it sounds like you are), the best thing to do is to go with a high-potency multi-enzyme that contains at least these ingredients:
Protease, Amylase, lipase, lactase, cellulase, alpha-Galactosidase.

IF you think you have a problem with sugars, a formula incuding sucrase, maltase, invertase, carbohydrase would be helpful.

Here are some multi-enzyme formulas that contain most of these ingredients in high amounts:

1) Similase, BV Similase = www.tyler-inc.com
2) Therazyme Formulas = through enzyme therapists only
3) Maximizer = R Garden, Kettles Falls, WA 99141

These are not your typical over the counter enzymes and can't be found in healthfood stores for the most part.

If your problem is bloating/indigestion, this may indicate the need for HCL/Bile Salts in high amounts. Start out by taking HCL bound to pepsin (630mg) at your next meal. Increase by one tablet at each meal until you get heartburn or a warmth in your stomach. When this happens, it means you took too much HCL for that meal. Back off by one tablet per meal until the burning goes away, then maintain that dose. As your body starts producing the HCL on its own again, you will start to get the burning at your lower dose. Simply keep reduding the dose until you no longer need the HCL. Keep in mind that if HCL is low, you will be low on pancreatic enzymes because HCL is needed to activate the pancreas into releasing its enzymes.

The bile salts (typically in the form of ox bile) help the gallbladder put out more bile to emulisify your fat, absorb nutrients, and helps move your bowels. Doing a liver/gallbladder flush is a great way to get your bile flowing. This also helps intestinal bloating. Refer to the protocol in these archives or look in Dr. Hulda Clarks Book "The Cure for all diseases".

Intestinal bloating basically means that you aren't absorbing your food properly and microbes are fermenting your food before you have a chance to absorb it. This may indicate the need for carbohydrate restriction/antifugal therapy in addition to the above mentioned ideas. Eliminating food allergies also helps intestinal bloating. I find the Human Blood print by IMMUNO LABS to be the most accurate test in discovering hidden food allergies. It is more than 93% accurate.

Hope this helps you out.



Thank You all and especially E.T. for the detailed advise! NMI

Posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 21:10:14:

In Reply to: Some help for you posted by enzyme therapy on May 07, 2001 at 17:57:01:

NMI

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Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 21:38:33:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Barbara on May 07, 2001 at 17:43:24:

Barbara,

I think that the Swedish Bitters are working as "prescribed" - to stimulate my appetite & get the stomach acid going. No negative side effects. Can't say for sure that it is responsible for better digestion, but combined with ground flaxseed & fish oil caps, *something* is working.

I did buy some Gallexier herbal bitters (artichoke, dandelion, +) last week when I stopped at a store that didn't have the Swedish bitters. I don't like the taste of the Gallexier much...it doesn't stimulate my appetite psychologically and I haven't had it enough to say if it affects me otherwise.

Good luck!

Michelle



Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Barbara on May 08, 2001 at 03:30:42:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Michelle S on May 07, 2001 at 21:38:33:

Yeah that's the one I took! Was looking for swedish or chinese bitters but they only had that. I was a bit nauseous and was belching which I havent done for a long time. Hopefully next time they'll have the swedish or chinese bitters. Thanks for the response.



Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Vince F on May 08, 2001 at 05:31:44:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Barbara on May 08, 2001 at 03:30:42:

I think Tripe might have digestive enzymes
in it.


VF

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Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on May 08, 2001 at 10:02:53:

In Reply to: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 12:43:36:

Hi, QT.

Difficult questions and ones that no one has a perfect answer to. You have been given good information by others.

Let us know how you do. In the long run, of course, the solution is to deal with the LGS.

Walt

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Re: Which digestive enzymes work best???

Posted by Peter B on May 08, 2001 at 10:24:59:

In Reply to: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by QT on May 07, 2001 at 12:43:36:

Infinity2 makes whole-food enzymes (their primary focus) although I have not tried them. Their website has an interesting library with articles that seem well-researched. This is not a testimonial since I have not tried their products. Good luck.



www.infinity2.com (nmi)

Posted by Peter B on May 08, 2001 at 10:27:25:

In Reply to: Re: Which digestive enzymes work best??? posted by Peter B on May 08, 2001 at 10:24:59:


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