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Posted by
jason on July 12, 2001 at 08:19:58:

High my name is Jason im 25 years of age and suffer from CFS from 1995 to march 2000 i was really on top of the CFS until i took some anti biotics for a bacterial infection i had in my gut, since then i have been very ill i now have leaky gut syndrome/irritable bowel syndrome/gut dysbiosis(candida albicans) after reading your web site i purchased some herbal Fibreblend and i am taking 2 5ml spoonfuls a day, my question is do you think the herbal fibreblend and a pro biotic along with natural anti fungals supplement can cure my chronic gut problems, as i beleive that if i can repair my gut the cfs will improve dramatically, can you suggest any advice or a program that may help me cure the leaky gut, also can give me a list of natural antifungals to kill off the candida albicans i.e. GSE,caprylic acid,
thanks for you time.

Kind Regards
Justin (Sydney, Australia)



Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Confused? on July 12, 2001 at 09:13:40:

In Reply to: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by jason on July 12, 2001 at 08:19:58:

So which is it? Jason or Justin?



Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Helping you on July 12, 2001 at 13:10:46:

In Reply to: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by jason on July 12, 2001 at 08:19:58:

Ignore people like that. Your name is not as important as the reason you are here.

I have a few questions for you actually. How do you know you have these problems? Were they diagnosed by a doctor through lab testing? Or, are you just assuming?

I ask because I firmly believe finding most to all of the possible contributing factors is what will allow you to get better. If you are sitting on 1 tac, it takes a lot of tylenol to make you feel better. If you are sitting on 2 tacs, removing one tac does not result in a 50% improvement. You catch my drift? You need to find all of the underlying problems. This can be tricky. It's helpful if you can get some specialized lab testing. If not, you can still get to the bottom of things. It just takes a little longer. Let's look!

Assuming for a moment that you indeed do have these problems, I want to let you in on a little-known secret. CFS, LGS. IBS, and candida overgrowth are not 4 separate entities. They are all connected. In fact, the names you wrote in the subject line do nothing to help you overcome your problems so don't get too wrapped up in them. The underlying causes for all of these are virtually the same. To my knowledge, there are only a few basic things that can happen in your body in order for you to become chronically ill. Here is what I believe you need to focus on first.

1) altered gut ecology - weather you have an overgrowth of bad bacteria/parasites/fungi or just not enough of the good guys, this can seriously through off your entire body chemistry. This "A.G.E." as I like to call it, contributes to malabsorption of food, in-effecient energy production, consitpation, diarhea, IBS, LGS,.....virtually every known digestive complaint there is. So, keep in mind, these are all different names of the same disease process. The only difference is, how long things have been going on. You might start out as having "Candida overgrowth". But, if not treated, it can progress into "IBS". If not treated, it can progress into "LGS", and if not treated, can become C
Crohn's disease". It's aall the same process, just at different points along the way.

To restore gut ecology, you must do the following:

a) Remove bugs - antifungals
b) Replace Digesants - enzymes, HCL,
c) Remove foods that bugs like (sugar, refined foods)
d) Eat foods with high-water content (lentils, vegetables,
fruits, soups -- but don't skip out on the protein!)
e) Practice SR - this restores blood flow to your GI tract,
helps heal LGS, improvess digestion, and improves mental
abilities to cope with your situation. It is ESSENTIAL
f) once bugs are clear, you need to replace flora. Best
flora product to date is called "Flora Source". A soil-
bacteria product called "Primal Defense" attacks bac
bugs directly and changes the environment in which bad
bugs live in. This way, they can't survive. You can
start taking PD right away. Flora Source should not be
used until bad bugs are cleared!!! Another way, and perhaps a better way to get flora back, is to implant it rectally. Once bugs are gone, go for a series of 2 colonics 2 days in a row. Request that Sweet Dairy Whey is put in the colonic water. This will re-acidify the colon. You would need to put BIFIDUS into the sweet dairy whey water. At least 100 billion organisms are needed to re-populate the colon. Once you do this, your colon will be re-acidified (yours is most likely alkaline right now) and your flora will be optimal again. Use Flora Source of PD to maintain. Most of your digestive problems would have been handled by this time
g) Food combining - when your digestive system is imbalanced, it mostly can't handle idiotic food combinations, most notibly, Proteins and starches. Do not eat Chicken and Rice, Fish and Pasta, or Meat and Potatoes at the same sitting. Try eating either protein and vegetables of Starch and vegetables. Eat fruits alone on an empty stomach. First thing in morning is ideal for fruit. Use oils with starch meals instead of protein. There are plenty of good books on this topic.
h) Other than SR, the next most important nutrient for LGS is L-glutamine. You can safely take up to 15g per day (in divided doses) between meals. A good product for LGS is called Permavite. You would need to add extra L-glutamine but other than this, it is the best product I know of to heal LGS.
i) Food sensitivites arise from altered bowel ecology. If you can identify trigger foods and eliminate them for at least 6 months, you would be better off. The best way is food challange. If you want an easier way although slightly less accurate, try the ELISA IgG IgE food test from IMMUNO LABS. It is 94% accurate. This will help heal your gut faster.


This is only a partial list of what to do. I would suggest reading the archives, doing searches on this site, and reading posts further down on the board. I have answered tons of posts on LGS and have included many optional programs so do a little home-work and then ask questions if needed.

A NOTE: The herbal fiberblend is fine. Just remember, you are only talking about one aspect of the many you need to do so go learn some more. It really helps to truely understand what is going on rather than just taking someones advice.

Hope this helps get you started. :) good luck!




Confused?

Posted by Kimberly on July 12, 2001 at 15:49:25:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Confused? on July 12, 2001 at 09:13:40:

Sometimes people post things under different names, because they feel like their question is silly. Like you, I noticed that you didn't post your "real" name!!!

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Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by doc bob on July 13, 2001 at 11:27:46:

In Reply to: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by jason on July 12, 2001 at 08:19:58:

helping you has some good suggestions. its a shame but most likely the gut dysbiosis was what was causing your "chronic fatigue " syndrome in the first place, the worst possible thing he could have given you was antibiotics. was there any test done to show what type of infection it was? clean out your gut natrully and follow doc stolls protocal, thats your best bet of getting rid of this.

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Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 14, 2001 at 09:00:28:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 12, 2001 at 13:10:46:

Thanks, Helping.

Great summary!

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Michelle... to helping you on July 15, 2001 at 12:06:00:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 12, 2001 at 13:10:46:

Can I just say that you are an angel on earth!!!!!!! After reading your caring and wondeful response, tears came to my eyes as I realized how much you care about others. I, too, suffer from all of the "connected" disorders that Jason wrote in about. As a matter of fact, I have many more others that are troubling me. Fibromyalgia, GERD, migraines and the list goes on. My main problem is chronic diarrhea. I am 31 years of age and I feel like I am 100! I have gone through this wonderful site and I am trying to put things together towards a treatment plan. I printed out a copy of your response and I will follow it to a tee. You said that there was some other things you would include also. Could you please respond to this and tell me the rest of your detailed plan? Not that I am lazy and not wanting to do homework myself... it's just that you summed everything up so beautifully and I would love to hear the rest and use it as a tool and absolutely correct way of going about treatment.... Thanks... you are a blessing from God!!!!!!



Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 13:47:52:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Michelle... to helping you on July 15, 2001 at 12:06:00:

Thank you very much. Your words brought a bigger smile to my face than I have had in a long time. thanks. and,..your welcome.

It's very easy to get bogged down with the many things that are happening. All other information I could give you is probably secondary to what I suggested to jason. The most important, to recap, is:

1) Clear out bad bugs with antifungals
2) Clean out colon with high fiber diet and possibly a
fiber supplement
3) Replace good flora with Flora Source, Primal Defense. Another probiotic that would help you very much is called CULTURELLE. It can be bought in CVS pharmacy or on-line. It contains a strain of Lactobacilli called LGG. It has been proven to treat ALL TYPES of diarrhea. However, you can't use probiotics until the bugs are gone and colon is cleaned out. It could take 3-6 months
4) Remove ALL forms of sugar. I know it sucks but you need to do it. No white foods, refined foods, milk, gluten-grains (wheat, oats, rye, barley), vinegar. Even fruit sugar and honey needs to be avoided. Here is a better list of foods I would focus on right now:

a) All organic meats, Fish (no luncheon meats, pork)
b) organic eggs are ok unless you are allergic or sensitive
c) Grains = Amaranth, quinoa, Teff, millet, rice (not
white). If you need a bread, by sprouted bread like
Eziekiel bread. Wheat-free, yeast-free is best for now
d) Vegetables = ALL
e) Go easy on underground vegetables = carrots, beets,
potatoes (no white potatoes)
f) Fruits = Berries, cherries, granny smith apple only. In
fact, avoid fruits until the diarrhea is better. Then
proceed with caution
g) Fats = nuts (no seeds), olive oil, flax oil, Fish oil,
avocado
Don't have fruit juices at all. Vegetables juices would be ok but they aren't very palatable without apples.
5) Food combining. I outlined the basic rules in the other post. Eat your fruits first thing in the morning and wait 30 minutes before eating other foods. Since you are avoiding fruits right now, you don't need to worry about it. Eat meat and vegetables or starches with vegetables (carrots, ALL grains, peas, sweet potatoes are examples of starches. put oils on meals with starch. Oil inhibits the secretion of HCL which is needed to digest protein. So, have your meat and vegetables plain. Season them with herbs. But, when you have a sweet potato and vegetables, feel free to use oil or REAL butter on it.

This is really all I would focus on right now. Remember, you have 30 trillion cells in your body and 60 Trillion bacteria. Bacteria outnumber us 2 to 1 so you can see that digesive health is #1 importance. Once that gets straightened out, many other things come naturally.

Your diahrea is most likely being caused by these factors:

1) Bacterial imbalance (example = too much candida, no
bifidus)
2) Backed up colon = If the walls of your colon have
impacted fecal matter against it, only liquids would be
able to get through and you could have diarrhea. It
would give the impression that things are going right
through you but it wouldn't be the case
3) Food Allergies or sensitivity. I think you should
eliminate all dairy foods and gluten-containing foods.
See if you feel better. Other foods to consider are
corn, soy, or any other food you eat on a daily basis.
Malabsorption can be a cause of the loose stools.

Take digestive enzymes with each meal. Go to a health foods store and pick up 4 different anti-yeast herbs. Garlic, grapefruit seed extract, Olive leaf extract, and Berberine complex is an example. Oil of oregano is another. Take one herb for 4 days. Then, switch to another one. After 4 days switch to another one. Keep doing this over and over again. this way, whatever pathogens you may have in you will not adapt to your medications. Caprylic acid, SF722, DC3 are other anti-fungals. Primal Defense is something you should get on right away. the soil bacteria start to change the environment in your colon so that pathogens just cannot live there.

Try these suggestions for a while and then come back with an update in a month or so. Search the site more, look into these ideas, and ask others if you feel more comfortable. I am very glad to help.

The migranes could be a toxic reaction. They could also be the result of stress or stress from having a vertebrae out of alignment. Try going to a good chiropractor to be checked for subluxations. Try sleeping on an temperpedic pillow. This will keep your spine from going out of alignment when you sleep. If you sleep in your side, put a pillow between your knees and one under your arm to keep you straight. It's comfortable too.

Take Care :)



To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Sending out an SOS on July 16, 2001 at 10:19:24:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 12, 2001 at 13:10:46:

Do you think you can cure LGS/candida albicans by following
all your recommendations without using the "Primal Defense?"
I'm suffering from reoccurring vaginal yeast infections as
well as psoriasis...I know it's all the same thing: Candida.
I am presently on an herbal candida cleansing program, but I
must admit that because I haven't stuck with the recommended
diet, I haven't seen any positive changes in my health.
Diet is so important!! My fault. Can you buy "Primal
Defense" at your local HFS?

THanks!!! You are helping so many of us!!!!

SO



Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 2001 at 10:26:43:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Michelle... to helping you on July 15, 2001 at 12:06:00:

Amen, Michelle, Amen!

Walt

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Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 2001 at 10:27:48:

In Reply to: Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 13:47:52:

NMI

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Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Helping you on July 16, 2001 at 13:51:59:

In Reply to: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Sending out an SOS on July 16, 2001 at 10:19:24:

Candida/LGS can be cured without Primal Defense. However, PD is just one of those products that seems to make the whole process quicker.

Describe your program to me please

PD can be found at www.crohns.net




Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by SOS on July 18, 2001 at 09:49:38:

In Reply to: Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 16, 2001 at 13:51:59:

I am on a 2 week herbal treatment program which contains 3
parts:
VITAL CLEANSE 1:
Black Walnut Coptis Supreme (Alcohol Free) - an Herbal
Alternative and Anti-Fungul Program
(Containing fresh Black Walnut Green Hulls, Chinese Coptis
Root, Chinese SKullcap Root, Pau D'Arco Bark, Chaparral
Leaf, Fresh Red Clover Tops, Fresh Ginger Root, and
Essential Oils of Tea Tree, Oregano and Thyme)
VITAL CLEANSE 2:
Sweetich Bitters Elixir (Alcohol Free) - A Digestive and
Invigorating Tonic
(Containing Indian Gooseberry, Tumeric Root, Fresh Gentian
Root, rresh Calamus Root, Milk Thistle Seed, Fresh Wild Yam
Root, Cardamom Seed, Fennel Seed, Fresh Ginger Root, Bitter
Orange Essence, Anise Seed Essene, Blend of Sea Vegetation
and Marine Algae, Vegetable Glycerin)
VITAL CLEANSE 3:
Powder - An Intestinal Food and Gentle Cleansing Agent
(Containing Triphala Powder, Psyllium Powder, Organic
Marshmellow Root Powder, Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice Powder,
Organic Ginger Root Powder)

There you have it!! Any sugestions??? Thanks again so much



Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by Helping you on July 18, 2001 at 19:27:28:

In Reply to: Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by SOS on July 18, 2001 at 09:49:38:

Ok. It seems #1 is for parasites, #2 is for digestion and Liver detox, and #3 is for intestinal detox. I'm not familiar with these products. This may be just fine. There is nothing here to handle dysbiosis (candida, klebsiella and other opportunistic pathogens) but see how you feel after completing this one.

Your diet should have no sugar but I am sure you know that. Sounds good. Let us know how things go.

You may want to add L-glutamine



Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans

Posted by SOS on July 19, 2001 at 10:17:46:

In Reply to: Re: To Helping You/Re: CFS,LGS,IBS,candida albicans posted by Helping you on July 18, 2001 at 19:27:28:

I will try the l-glutamine. Thanks.


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