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Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse?

Posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:33:37:

I have a couple questions for any of the experts regarding my situation. I have scrolled this web-site for about a year now and I want to take action NOW to regain my health. I spent four long days last week crying my eyes out because of how sick I feel. But, it was a "good" crying time because I feel like a changed and motivated person! There is NO turning back now!!!!!!!! The thought of eating any sugar again repulses me and the carbos make me sick also. They literally did make me sick and now they mentally make me want to make them a a bad memory for me. I also find that, I cannot even stand whole red potatoes or brown rice and so I think for at least a long while, grains have to be eliminated. That is why I think the scd diet will work nicely for me. Here are my problems and I contacted a doctor today that is an MD that is now just treating alternatively. It is like a dream come true! He will be calling me within the next day or so to talk and then set up an appointment. But, he is going on vacation for 3 weeks but I cannot wait that long to get started so I will take matters in my own hands for now until he gets back! But, here are my questions for now:

I have candida, leaky gut, probable parasites, food sensitivities to wheat, grains, sugar for sure, fibromyalgia, chronic, severe diarrhea.... I know ALL of these are the same!!!!!!!!!

1. Should I get on Primal Defense or Flora Source? Which one seems to work better? I researched at Crohns.net and they like Primal Defense. What do all of you suggest? Do these products kill yeast and parasites like they claim to?

2. Should I fight the candida immediately and does that mean I now start on the candida diet while doing so? Can I take the Primal Defense or Flora Source during this time?

3. How do you know the candida is clear and you can start introducing fruits back into your diet?

4. Should I do a colon cleanse and when should I do it? Before candida treatment, during or after? Do you recommend a specific product?

5. What other products should I be taking during this time? L glutamine for leaky gut? Anything else? Do you know of certain, cheaper companies that can sell this to me? Also, for the colon cleanse?

I think this is all of my questions. I cannot tell you how eager and happy I am to get started. I cannot explain in words what a transformation has taken place in me. It is like I saw God! That is how good I feel about taking charge of my health! And pertaining to God, I am sure HE has a big part in allowing me to get to this point of no return in reclaiming my health! I have prayed endless hours to HIM about this and I guess my prayers have been answered!

Thanks and I hope to hear from some of you!



forgot one important thing!

Posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:51:27:

In Reply to: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:33:37:

I am ALSO and most importantly learning and doing SR and I am almost at the point where I feel that I have completely accomplished it. I am doing this two times a day for at least 20 minutes a time.



Terrifiic!!!! read my post to you above......... no message in body

Posted by helping you on July 30, 2001 at 13:30:48:

In Reply to: forgot one important thing! posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:51:27:

nmi

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Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 31, 2001 at 08:26:14:

In Reply to: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:33:37:

Hi, Anna.

Remember, treating the candida is the last thing to do. Elimination the LGS is the first.

I think you are on the right track with your SR. The more you learn the more you will feel in control.

Walt

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Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse?

Posted by Helping you on July 31, 2001 at 19:32:30:

In Reply to: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Anna on July 30, 2001 at 11:33:37:

Dr. Stoll has a great point about eliminating the LGS first. The only problem I have with it, and it is more from a symptomatic standpoint, is that the sometimes horrific symptoms that come from candida infection often make it difficult for a person to get the most from SR and other therapies. I find that if at the very least, the conditions are treated together, faster relief if obtained and candida-related symptoms often disappear quicker. This progress can encourage people to stick to their SR and other nutritional therapies for LGS. Of course, this is just MY experience and Dr. Stoll has been doing this for many years so he is obviously the one to listen to first. I am just giving another option based on what I and others have also found effective. LGS allows candida to proliferate so Dr. Stoll's advice is right on the money. However, I just like to get people SOME relief from their maladies as quickly as possible in order to allow the person' mind/body to relax more. I do this with nutritionals and therapy that actually INTERFERE with the disease process and allow it to begin reversal. SR is challanging only in that it takes at least 6 months to a year to obtain the results needed. However, SR IS the effective solution for LGS so anybody would want to get right to it. I just feel that there are ways to increase the speed at which one can heal LGS. Eliminating bugs at the same time is just one of those ways. Just a thought. Thanks Dr. Stoll for being here for so many. I have learned more from you and this site than you can imagine. Thnaks so much for everything!!



Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse?

Posted by Reader on August 01, 2001 at 19:06:29:

In Reply to: Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Helping you on July 31, 2001 at 19:32:30:

I agree with you, helper, that it's better to deal with the dysbiosis right away and a lot of holistic doctors think that the dysbiosis helps to cause permeability in the intestines, even if that was caused by the LGS in the first place. Why not get rid of it asap? I also think it's possible to cure LGS without doing SR, even though it's better to do SR if you can. But there are people that LGS that can't do SR, like children.



Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse?

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 02, 2001 at 10:29:27:

In Reply to: Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Reader on August 01, 2001 at 19:06:29:

Hi, Reader.

Children, as a rule are much better at SR than adults. See "Meditating with Children" by Deborah Rozman as an example.

This is a skill that all children should be taught in kindergarten--and eventually will.

Walt

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Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 02, 2001 at 10:36:46:

In Reply to: Re: Primal Defense or Flora Source? When to colon cleanse? posted by Helping you on July 31, 2001 at 19:32:30:

Hi, Helper.

I couldn't agree with you more! I see MY purpose as helping people understand what is going on and hoping that that understanding will let them find their own path to wellness. The true teacher always hopes for the student to exceed the teacher's reach.

Almost anything will get faster results than SR but in the long run, nothing brings more certain or permanent results.

Everything that has been mentioned is likely to produce quicker, though ultimately temporary, results for LGS, candida, parasitosis, food hypersensitivities, IBS, Crohn's, UC and all of the secondary problems like autoimmune conditions which can affect anything in the bodymind.

Hope this helps clear things up a little.

Namaste`

Walt

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