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Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All

Posted by Joan on September 02, 2001 at 22:41:28:

Hi, everyone.

At the risk of being obnoxious, I have a bit of unsolicited advice for all of you Candida sufferers making the rounds of the diets as I have: STOP. I have done The Yeast Connection Diet, The Body Ecology Diet, etc. ad infinitum. I'm over it! I have amassed quite a collection, now used mainly for recipe inspirations.

Have you EVER talked to anyone who was "cured" following these diets? I haven't. Everyone I talked to either: (A) Has improved but was also on Nystatin or some other medication, so perhaps they benefitted from the medication! or (B) Was happy on that particular eating plan because it made allowances for foods that other plans didn't (for example, some plans say you can have verboten foods in small quantities [like fruits]. Of course they praise that diet -- there isn't as much willpower required to follow it!)

I think I know now one of the reasons I haven't been able to "shake" this thing -- I have been on the wrong diets. Too many allowances for carbs were made that still fed the yeast; for example, The Body Ecology Diet [my latest] says that you can eat cranberries, limes, and lemons. I have been doing that. However, Dr. Stoll's diet (The Healing Power of Whole Foods by Beth Loiselle) has it right -- NO FRUIT -- no green apples, no cranberries, no limes or lemons or their juices. PERIOD. Not for 3 mos. or until symptoms are under control. Granted, that is not what I want to hear -- I *l o v e* fruit. But that's the only way to get rid of this crap once and for all!

Diet is only part of it, sure, but for me it is major because it requires a lot more planning (due to rotation of foods because of allergies, etc.) than the other facets of recovery. Remembering to do SR, exercise, or take my supplements are the easy parts.

Everyone is different, and I have been tailoring these diets as I have gone along. But the basic precept -- CARBS FEED YEASTS -- remains the same and should be applied across the board. Not "Carbs feed yeasts, and fruits are carbs, but cranberries, limes, and lemons are exceptions!"

Thank God I found this website. Everything anyone needs to know about healing LGS or C-RS is right here (especially in the archives). It has renewed my commitment to lick this. As Dr. Stoll suggested I am increasing my walking to three times per week. I am calling this week to find a biofeedback therapist and will begin ASAP. AND I am divorcing my doctor and finding a better one.

Well, I'm off my soapbox. Thanks for listening to all this. I hope this helps someone. . . Joan in AZ



Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All-Thanks Joan for posting!! nmi

Posted by Barb on September 03, 2001 at 10:51:30:

In Reply to: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by Joan on September 02, 2001 at 22:41:28:

nmi

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Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All

Posted by beegs on September 03, 2001 at 13:06:00:

In Reply to: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by Joan on September 02, 2001 at 22:41:28:


sounds interesting, did you get tested for yest/ my doc has me on the longevity diet, which isnt working.it allows all fruits,all grains,etc. he said that since i passed the lgs test, a candida diet wasnt needed. im starting to doubt him, which is not good, hes very expensive



Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All

Posted by Joan on September 03, 2001 at 18:58:27:

In Reply to: Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by beegs on September 03, 2001 at 13:06:00:

Hi, Beegs.

No, I wasn't tested for Candida, but I did take the questionnaire in Dr. Crook's book and my score was out of this galaxy! PLUS, I have a long-standing history (since infancy) of C-RS symptoms -- too lengthy to go into -- and allergies, etc. indicating LGS.

Beegs, I doubt and question everything they tell me at this point; I can't afford not to after receiving so much erroneous info. Here's a suggestion: Why don't you try scrapping or modifying the Longevity diet and see if it makes you feel better? I would definitely eliminate fruit and grains if you suspect Candida; besides, from what I have read the Candida lab tests aren't that reliable anyway, which is why Doc Stoll goes by the questionnaire.

I am so tired of all of this, Beegs. I am going broke listening to these "doctors'" bad advice; it is very frustrating! I am so grateful to have found this BB where I can learn from others who know where I'm coming from. . . Take Care, Joan in AZ




Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All

Posted by beegs on September 03, 2001 at 19:31:37:

In Reply to: Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by Joan on September 03, 2001 at 18:58:27:


hey girl, im in the same boat,and the people here are also cool, but some are nuts, if heir protocol is desnt work,they blame you. be careful, their is no harm in following a good whole foods diet. its just funny how some people get rid of these things with homeopathy, without killing candida,also some get better with ayurveda,which you eat according to your dosha, the saying that one mans food is anothers poison.so all these diets,whetjher whole foods or not,are not for everyone. i have seen people who did terrible on candida qustionarre, who got well with ayurveda,and eating basmanti rice and stuff, where others swear that it feeds yeast. so who knows. its also hard to get diagnosed on the net. i had people tell me here that my estrogen was part of this,and that my hormones were out of wack, etc. IM A 33 YR OLD MALE. i had to laugh. im underweight,and people here were telling me the opposite. i tell you,i crack up sometimes. but all in all,its good info, but it doesnt work for everyone. when someone asked how many people really healed lgs, only a few responded. lgs and candida are now being used as the blame for everything. i know guys who took xanax,o an antidepressant,and their bloating and bad digestion went away,also allergies. so ibs can just be stress. the allergy part sometimes is just an overactive system from stress,and when the system calms down, your not so bad. also, others have real lgs,and chemical sensitivity,etc. i think you should have a good doc who sees you in person. and supplement with info here. adoctor needs tosee what you look like,and testing is neccessary. im not getting muchbetter,and i do follow the ginger juice, meditating, the diet,etc. imay just have real ibs, because of stresss. who knows. but keep hope,and there are nice people here.



Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All

Posted by Joan on September 03, 2001 at 20:08:02:

In Reply to: Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by beegs on September 03, 2001 at 19:31:37:

Thanks, Beegs, for your observations. I've read great things about ginger juice in the archives, I don't think you can go wrong with it.

My problem is definitely full-blown LGS; I know because I have MCS and was going into dysautonomia (end-stage leaky gut) about a year ago and almost died several times, no kidding. Kidneys were failing and everything. I didn't know at the time anything about LGS (I listened to my stupid MD, a rheumatologist, who never addressed my digestive tract, only dispensed more pills to cover everything up); I've learned this stuff and put two and two together reading the archives. That's probably why I am so eager to get this healed; I know how serious it can get. I think I'm "off the slippery slope" -- no more arthritis (I was crippling) and no more renal failure.

I agree with you, stress is a big part of this whole thing. I read a study in archives that most non-veterans with MCS were abused children (I was). All of that chronic muscle tightening is not good for anybody, and it just manifests itself differently depending on what muscle groups they are tightening and where their genetic weaknesses lie.

Since you have IBS, have you read Elaine Gotschall's book, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle"? I have UC (ulcerative colitis) and just bought a copy; it makes sense and I think I'll follow some of her suggestions and perhaps the entire diet later when I can handle honey, etc. Unfortunately she never addresses the LGS, but it is a good day-to-day diet to follow.

Do you take SBO's (Primal Defense)? I am waiting on mine to arrive --should be here any day.

As for the board, 99% of the people are very nice and a couple of them are GREAT (like Helping You). There are a couple of people who get on my nerves. If there is a post regarding something I know absolutely zero about I keep my mouth shut because I don't want to "muddy the water" for someone searching for answers. There are a couple of people (no names mentioned) who must not have a life because they reply to every single post with idiotic remarks. These comments serve no purpose whatsoever, and I get annoyed while reading these. But, everyone has an opinion and is entitled to express it; that's what BBs are about. I just wish some people would stop and THINK before they are so quick to say things!

Take care, :) Joan in AZ

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Re: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All (Archive in C-RS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 04, 2001 at 08:43:20:

In Reply to: Comitted to Eradicating Candida Once and For All posted by Joan on September 02, 2001 at 22:41:28:

Thanks, Joan.

You are right! I have yet to see anyone resolve candida with diet alone--ANY kind of diet.

Namaste`

Walt

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